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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:16 PM ET
For philly or for CBJ?

also -Carter had contract certainty - good cap number, underpaid actually, for the rest of his career.

Kessel's gonna get MINIMUM $6.5M for 5+years

- Big_Lightnin

what did columbus get?

Jack Johnson? eh

and a coniditional first.


not much...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:16 PM ET
For philly or for CBJ?

also -Carter had contract certainty - good cap number, underpaid actually, for the rest of his career.

Kessel's gonna get MINIMUM $6.5M for 5+years

- Big_Lightnin

Philly got a killing. Jack Mother(frank)ing Johnson blows.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:16 PM ET
For philly or for CBJ?

also -Carter had contract certainty - good cap number, underpaid actually, for the rest of his career.

Kessel's gonna get MINIMUM $6.5M for 5+years

- Big_Lightnin


Nobody wanted Carter's deal, LA is paying him until he's 60 years old. Kessel's contract situation is actually much more desirable for a team, and he's a better and younger than Carter was when he was traded.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
I'm watching Behind the Draft 2010. Burke has said he has the best defense in the league three times in four minutes.
- Two_For_Truth


That made it true, right?
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
what did columbus get?

Jack Johnson? eh

and a coniditional first.


not much...

- wingz4life


Jack Johnson and a 1st round pick...
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Why is everyone multi-quoting.. Makes my blood boil.
- A_Tree


earlier poster (you can probably guess) made everyone conjur their inner UG
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Philly got a killing. Jack Mother(frank)ing Johnson blows.
- AdamFrench


Remember when everyone thought he was going to be a superstar
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
He's great at faceoffs. That's about it. He doesn't play well defensively, he has no size, I don't give a crap if he gives it his all every shift, and the chemistry thing is crap. He wouldn't look good on the 3rd line - he has no grit.


The Leafs could replace Komarov with 3 other players from the Marlies tomorrow, and you wouldn't notice the difference.



I don't feel like I even need to address this one.


I get that we can't have a team of Mike Richards.

But you don't need role players that pecialize in an aspect of the game - that's the point that Leafs fans need to realize. I don't want Linus Omark on the team.

If you are going to have role players, you need guys who can do 10 things at an average to above average level.

And you need to stop worshiping guys who are good at backhands on penalty shots in away games during shootouts on Tuesdays.

- Atomic Wedgie

disagree on bozak, agree on Komarov, you definitely don't, and the specialists I'm talking about do one thing great, and a bunch of things at an average level.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Jack Johnson and a 1st round pick...
- blahman20

Jack Johnson is not a difference maker on defense. and columbus sucks at drafting so..
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Either way Carter got a good return, and in my opinion Kessel is worth more at this point.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Nobody wanted Carter's deal, LA is paying him until he's 60 years old. Kessel's contract situation is actually much more desirable for a team, and he's a better and younger than Carter was when he was traded.
- blahman20


37, actually.
stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
I like the Carter comparison.

If we could land a decent top six who`s under 25(or even a dman) as well as a pick that ends up top 10 I`d be happy.

I wouldn`t actually mind seeing a big Dman come back, as moving Keith Aulie set us back a fair bit.

The hard thing is imaging trading him intra-conference

- AngryWhiteMale


A decent top 6 and a high draft pick for a potential superstar? Why do we always care more about the trades than the product. Where do we get our 30 - 40 goal scorer. We replace him with a couple 20 goal scorers?

Mac and Kulemin for Kessel? would you make that trade? Cause that is what you are suggesting. There is Never a sure thing that a top 10 pick turns into a top NHL'er, most likely they become a second or third line guy. It gets even less beyond the 10 spot picks.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Jack Johnson is not a difference maker on defense. and columbus sucks at drafting so..
- wingz4life


Why are you constantly in these threads? Jw

Johnson was highly touted when he was traded and a former top pick, play it off as nothing but Carter's contract was also terrible overall. What does Columbus' drafting have to do with ANYTHING? lol
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Remember when everyone thought he was going to be a superstar
- A_Tree

I remember when he Lindrossed Carolina and they had to trade him. He's well on his way to being the worst +/- in NHL history
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
37, actually.
- Pecafan Fan


Really?
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Either way Carter got a good return, and in my opinion Kessel is worth more at this point.
- blahman20

i dont think it was a good return.

when u trade a star, superstar. u will never get fair/equal in return
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Why are you constantly in these threads? Jw

Johnson was highly touted when he was traded and a former top pick, play it off as nothing but Carter's contract was also terrible overall. What does Columbus' drafting have to do with ANYTHING? lol

- blahman20


leaves.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'm not even really for trading Kessel, unless like was stated in the blog, Toronto can get a boatload back for him, and i'm not convinced of that. A good return? Sure, but a great one? I don't know.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 7 @ 4:21 PM ET
Why is everyone multi-quoting.. Makes my blood boil.
- A_Tree


when you are trying to address multiple points, its easier to read an understand.
Its common practice on forums... But it is worth letting your blood boil over
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:21 PM ET
Nobody wanted Carter's deal, LA is paying him until he's 60 years old. Kessel's contract situation is actually much more desirable for a team, and he's a better and younger than Carter was when he was traded.
- blahman20


he's signed till he's 37. the last 3 yrs are $3M, $2M, $2M. Cap hit $5.2M. the only risk is injury, and then it's insurance anyway.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
Really?
- blahman20


Remember when he scored 2 goals in the game the Kings won the Stanley Cup and he was 100% in the faceoff circle?
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
earlier poster (you can probably guess) made everyone conjur their inner UG
- Big_Lightnin


It's just (frank)ing annoying. Is it not sufficient to respond to the comment in one sentence.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
I remember when he Lindrossed Carolina and they had to trade him. He's well on his way to being the worst +/- in NHL history
- AdamFrench

blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
he's signed till he's 37. the last 3 yrs are $3M, $2M, $2M. Cap hit $5.2M. the only risk is injury, and then it's insurance anyway.
- Big_Lightnin


And? It's still a bad contract for way way too long.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
Remember when he scored 2 goals in the game the Kings won the Stanley Cup and he was 100% in the faceoff circle?
- Pecafan Fan


It's still a BAD contract, but it did work out for LA. Never denied that.
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