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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:24 PM ET
That's insane how many GM's didn't find these guys.
- dbell646


Very true. Detroit rules as far as scouts go in Europe.

dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 4:27 PM ET
Very true. Detroit rules as far as scouts go in Europe.
- Orpik44

I can promise you that Shero will not find talented Euro's late in the draft.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 7 @ 4:29 PM ET
I can promise you that Shero will not find talented Euro's late in the draft.
- dbell646

We always blow our picks when it comes to euros in the late rounds.

Do you think that kid Oskar Sundqvist will pan out? And Anton Zlobin (the one who loves Ovi)?

dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 4:41 PM ET
We always blow our picks when it comes to euros in the late rounds.

Do you think that kid Oskar Sundqvist will pan out? And Anton Zlobin (the one who loves Ovi)?

- Orpik44

Outside of our own roster who is the last big name or borderline big name free agent shero has gotten to come here?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:45 PM ET
Outside of our own roster who is the last big name or borderline big name free agent shero has gotten to come here?
- dbell646



I don't think it matters. With 87, 71, 18, and 58, you don't need any big name free agents.

And technically, both Martin and Michalek were big name free agents.
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Feb 7 @ 4:49 PM ET
Outside of our own roster who is the last big name or borderline big name free agent shero has gotten to come here?
- dbell646


Billy Guerin, and before him Gary Roberts? or did patrick get roberts? wait and bill G was a trade deadline pickup, what did we give up a 7th rounder?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:52 PM ET
Billy Guerin, and before him Gary Roberts? or did patrick get roberts? wait and bill G was a trade deadline pickup, what did we give up a 7th rounder?
- JLT168



You can't answer his question with 3 more questions.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
Tim Thomas to the Isels
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
Tim Thomas to the Isels
- kfinl170


Garth Snow
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
Tim Thomas to the Isels
- kfinl170



Strange. Maybe they need his salary to make the cap floor because they're about to trade Tavares for Kennedy, Tangradi and Jeffrey.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Feb 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
Outside of our own roster who is the last big name or borderline big name free agent shero has gotten to come here?
- dbell646


Truthfully, Shero hasn't brough in a single big-name or borderline big-name free agent that wasn't well past his prime. But in all fairness, when you have guys like Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Letang, Gonchar, and Neal UFA signings are going to be more for complimentary players than big-name guys.

I know Shero went after Parise and Suter, but other than Hossa I really can't think of any big-name UFA he pursued competitively (ie, in terms of dollars and years). He more or less looked into the market to see what was what & went from there.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Feb 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
Strange. Maybe they need his salary to make the cap floor because they're about to trade Tavares for Kennedy, Tangradi and Jeffrey.
- canadianpenfan


Yea, but not for a 2nd round pick. Fold the Islanders
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yea, but not for a 2nd round pick. Fold the Islanders
- Deadstar


There should be no reason for them to give up that level pick if he didn't tell them he would play this year prior to the acquisition

Edit- I heard it is a conditional second in 2014 or 2015, but still thats not the smartest of moves
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:23 PM ET
Strange. Maybe they need his salary to make the cap floor because they're about to trade Tavares for Kennedy, Tangradi and Jeffrey.
- canadianpenfan



I just read it was a cap floor issue. Not sure if it's true, but you'd think they'd bring in someone.....anyone that could possibly help their team instead of a guy that is literally refusing to play. Strange indeed.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Feb 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
I just read it was a cap floor issue. Not sure if it's true, but you'd think they'd bring in someone.....anyone that could possibly help their team instead of a guy that is literally refusing to play. Strange indeed.
- madmike71



It's prefect. They don't have to give up a roster player or shake anything up in the net to make room for him and the conditional pick is probably based on if he actually ever plays for the Islanders. They comply with the cap for 2013--in a shady way--and he never has to show up to get fitted for gear.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
I just read it was a cap floor issue. Not sure if it's true, but you'd think they'd bring in someone.....anyone that could possibly help their team instead of a guy that is literally refusing to play. Strange indeed.
- madmike71



It's like circumventing the cap in reverse.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
Tim Thomas to the Isels
- kfinl170


Lots of loonies on that raft already so one more can't hurt is their motto?
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Feb 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
It's like circumventing the cap in reverse.
- canadianpenfan



and potentially for more than a year....

from tsn.ca

"The move puts the Islanders above the cap floor and the team can choose to toll the contract so they can keep using the cap hit in perpetuity if Thomas doesn't come back, or just let his contract expire at the end of the season."
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
Just when you expect a beatdown this team lays an egg.
- canadianpenfan



like the home opener
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:46 PM ET
and potentially for more than a year....

from tsn.ca

"The move puts the Islanders above the cap floor and the team can choose to toll the contract so they can keep using the cap hit in perpetuity if Thomas doesn't come back, or just let his contract expire at the end of the season."

- akane13




Half their payroll is Thomas, Dipietro and Yashin.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
Half their payroll is Thomas, Dipietro and Yashin.
- canadianpenfan



Actually, now that I think about, it's pretty genius since Thomas isn't really collecting salary. Still works for cap purposes, but Wang isn't parting with any green. Plus, I doubt Thomas ever plays for them and he won't have to part with that pick.

What a cheesy move for their fans. I'm sure Bob Nutting (Pirates Owner) is taking notes.
brianb0422
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:12 PM ET
I wish this was still a rivalry. Was a good one. Not so much anymore.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:26 PM ET
Garth Snow
- madmike71


Doesn't he know that he needs those picks to draft defensemen like year?
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:27 PM ET
Hopefully Kunitz coughed in all their hockey bags.
- canadianpenfan


Kunitz vomit = PEDs.
Sasquatchernaut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Bandwagon fan since 1984
Joined: 02.28.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:34 PM ET
Letang not in warmups

Reese paired with Despres
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