x even though we rarely agree you seem intelligent. Please answer tyhis question. Why would PA be useless if he signed a 4 yr deal on the Island? Do 4 year deals make people useless in hockey?
- Cptmjl

15 year deals do!

Yes

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- XxNYIxX

Ok. I thought so. Just wanted to make sure

15 year deals do!
- Charlie21

x even though we rarely agree you seem intelligent. Please answer tyhis question. Why would PA be useless if he signed a 4 yr deal on the Island? Do 4 year deals make people useless in hockey?
- Cptmjl

I THINK he means that PAP wasnt a long term answer on the Isles... So 4 years would be over kill, but I always looked at it as a productive player that could be traded for something you need... Teams dont ONLY trade for rentals & a 60+ pt player signed for 2 or so years would be pretty valuable in my opinion.

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- Cptmjl

No better feeling than leaning into a hanging curveball!

need to be at floor by tomorrow
- Charlie21

That's what I thought, but it begs the question...

Why didn't they sign Parenteau again? They could have someone help them get to the floor AND contribute.

Tim Thomas Traded to NY Islanders.??????

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- XxNYIxX

PAP once had a heart attack. His heart lost.

HUH! TIM THOMAS? WHY!?!?!?!?!

PAP once had a heart attack. His heart lost.

HUH! TIM THOMAS? WHY!?!?!?!?!
- Jethro09

Cap floor insurance & we can Toll his ass next year

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Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday

Reports out there are correct: #Isles have acquired G Tim Thomas for a conditional 2nd-rounder in either 2014 or 2015.
- Charlie21

STUPID TRADE! WHY!?! A SECOND ROUNDER? I don't get it unless this is a precursor to something else (RDP Buy out?)

Cap floor insurance & we can Toll his ass next year

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- XxNYIxX

Fine. Back to PAP.

PAP doesn't use pick-up lines, he just says "now".

That's what I thought, but it begs the question...

Why didn't they sign Parenteau again? They could have someone help them get to the floor AND contribute.
- canadianpenfan[/quote]

Now that would have been brilliant. I think this is there way of getting above the floor without actually paying. It's like reverse cap circumvention or something.

would the Isles have been under the floor or is this to make sure an upcoming deal doesn't take them below it? Interesting.

I don't like the loss of the second round pick (unless it drops to a lower round if Thomas doesn't resign - LOL) but if it is to do one of two things - allow the Isles to buyout DP, or to allow the Isles to make a big trade, then we'll see what it looks like. I wasn't aware we could drop below the floor so I'm hoping it's a move to allow one of those two things to happen.

STUPID TRADE! WHY!?! A SECOND ROUNDER? I don't get it unless this is a precursor to something else (RDP Buy out?)
- Jethro09

We all joked over the summer that the Isles would use Thomas to reach the cap floor.

No surprise here. Unless he actually reports to the Isles and plays!!!!!

would the Isles have been under the floor or is this to make sure an upcoming deal doesn't take them below it? Interesting.

I don't like the loss of the second round pick (unless it drops to a lower round if Thomas doesn't resign - LOL) but if it is to do one of two things - allow the Isles to buyout DP, or to allow the Isles to make a big trade, then we'll see what it looks like. I wasn't aware we could drop below the floor so I'm hoping it's a move to allow one of those two things to happen.
- Isles_since_6

TT has to play at least 1 game as an Islander for the 2nd conditional pick to be honored - which will never happen. Nice way of fleecing the CBA/Cap, Garth. Gotta hand it to ya, you're not much of a hockey GM but you'll make a great CFO in your next career. WTG!

would the Isles have been under the floor or is this to make sure an upcoming deal doesn't take them below it? Interesting.

I don't like the loss of the second round pick (unless it drops to a lower round if Thomas doesn't resign - LOL) but if it is to do one of two things - allow the Isles to buyout DP, or to allow the Isles to make a big trade, then we'll see what it looks like. I wasn't aware we could drop below the floor so I'm hoping it's a move to allow one of those two things to happen.
- Isles_since_6

That would be terrific!

But a dream.

STUPID TRADE! WHY!?! A SECOND ROUNDER? I don't get it unless this is a precursor to something else (RDP Buy out?)
- Jethro09

Ridiculously stupid, once again. Spend money and DRAFT PICKS on players that can help the team. "rebuilding"?

That's what I thought, but it begs the question...

Why didn't they sign Parenteau again? They could have someone help them get to the floor AND contribute.
- canadianpenfan

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Makes complete sense right? Not to some on here though

TT has to play at least 1 game as an Islander for the 2nd conditional pick to be honored - which will never happen. Nice way of fleecing the CBA/Cap, Garth. Gotta hand it to ya, you're not much of a hockey GM but you'll make a great CFO in your next career. WTG!
- jmo16

Yeah, he's incredible

I THINK he means that PAP wasnt a long term answer on the Isles... So 4 years would be over kill, but I always looked at it as a productive player that could be traded for something you need... Teams dont ONLY trade for rentals & a 60+ pt player signed for 2 or so years would be pretty valuable in my opinion.

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- XxNYIxX

In just about anyone's opinion with a half a brain.

Yeah, he's incredible
- Cptmjl

Staple: snow said team not likely to toll. Pick doesn't go to Boston unless Thomas plays. Just a move for more flexibility with buyouts,roster moves etc.

Yeah, he's incredible
- Cptmjl

and he's alllllllllllllllll ours. No doubt Charles rewards him with a lifetime + 5 years contract.

Staple: snow said team not likely to toll. Pick doesn't go to Boston unless Thomas plays. Just a move for more flexibility with buyouts,roster moves etc.
- Isles316

If they brought out DP right now his salary would still count against the cap just like Redden and Gomez. Makes no sense?

once again wang has found a way around the new CBA. 5MM cap hit to get to salary floor, and he suspended so you dont have to pay him.

Why not just go get a 5MM a year impact player.

Now here is where having PA would of made sense. All jokes aside.

But i really do think reason why we didnt sign PAP is b/c he wanted 4 year deal. If PAP was winning to take a 2 year deal, he probably could have gotten 5MM a year from isles.

and he's alllllllllllllllll ours. No doubt Charles rewards him with a lifetime + 5 years contract.
- jmo16

Probably Capuano too, only if we don't make the playoffs this year...

If they brought out DP right now his salary would still count against the cap just like Redden and Gomez. Makes no sense?
- Cptmjl

Thats what I don't get...how does this help buyouts in offseason ?