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Elliots07
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Bellaire, TX
Joined: 11.21.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:50 AM ET
I bought NHL Gme center and I can watch all the games on mu IPad for $49 all season
- PEIHawkFan


It is great, just make sure you have your settinigs on any game updates turned off- there is a delay on my game center, no matter where I am. about 30 seconds to a minute. Desktop computer, iphone or ipad.

For instance all the goals being scored in the SJ game were showing up before I watched the goals, which in a game like that was bothersome
Only downfall-

The Valut is pretty cool as you can watch some old games - I think back to 1962 Hawks Habs maybe - if I recall.................you may know this already-
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:53 AM ET
Loose? You write two words, and f(u)ck one of them up. Nice going.
- blackhawk24


LMAO
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 7 @ 8:56 AM ET
It is great, just make sure you have your settinigs on any game updates turned off- there is a delay on my game center, no matter where I am. about 30 seconds to a minute. Desktop computer, iphone or ipad.

For instance all the goals being scored in the SJ game were showing up before I watched the goals, which in a game like that was bothersome
Only downfall-

The Valut is pretty cool as you can watch some old games - I think back to 1962 Hawks Habs maybe - if I recall.................you may know this already-

- Elliots07


Have not used the Vault but your right it is delayed and will switch in and out of high definition and low def here and there
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:57 AM ET
I know its not smart but I would love to see someone hit Torres with a cheap suspendable hit that puts Torres out forever.

F Dave Tippit too. The Coyotes want Torres to be Torres. Torres gets players off his game because he can end someones career every shift.

You think Emery gets the start tonight because he is the 2nd toughest guy on the team in anticipation of a line brawl ? Lol.

- mrpaulish


Agree torres takes direction from the coach and i also hold their captain responsible for this style of play since i think condones it
I wanted doan at one point and the hawks need a doan type player maybe but i think doan is also an a$$ hole
Bickell may be doan if he decides to keep playing the way he did last game. Hope coaches keep emphasizing this to him. Stalberg could also do this and if he does to with his speed finishing checks would be devastating to the opposition
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
After the Cup victory, the squad seemed to miss having forwards that were able to get back in the attack zone and pressure the opposing defenders with checks...it was as if the Ladd, Eager, Burish subtraction actually gave the opposition as "easy out" of their zone.
I just don't see that as being the case so far this season.
I see the Hawks forwards "getting there."

The all-situation player you want to acquire just isn't available at this juncture, and surprisingly many of these guys, even if not expected to be scoring options, get paid much more than you would suspect.
The perfect candidate is signed long term at 3.1 million until 2017 and he is Martin Hanzal...if you can get 15 goals and 30 points, you take it and feel comfortable with the other side of the guy's game.

I just don't see these all-around players dropping into availabilty, and even the deadline means competition for them and over paying...
Maybe next year? (Becasue the hawks are gonna lose some of their soon to be UFAs, right?

Rookie side bar:

Mark Schiefele sent to juniors, and
Ryan Johansen sent to Springfirld AHL

Proof that you gotta try and not rush your Danault's Teravainen's, McNeill's and Rockfords...

- wiz1901



Well said, in the echo chamber here it is important to balance your dreams with reality.

If I see another person drop a "hits" statistic and hang their hat on it, I am coming with a blind side two hander.

Try looking at the stat for wins and goals for, and the fact that if our team is engaged, will be the best team on the ice every night.
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:59 AM ET
Actually I'd like to see a clean open ice hit to the chest, knocking the wind out of him. As he lies in a daze, a 'Hawk player or two can skate by and simply say, "bumhole".

I also agree with others, karma will catch up to him.

EDIT: Rozner on The Score this morning torched Tippett too; about the coaching staff sitting Torres down and talking to him, like this was the first time the pr!ck ever did something. Think Barry's exact words were, "Dave Tippett can bite me".

- blackhawk24


Agree clean hit to the chest and as he is grasping for air let him know theres more of that coming
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:01 AM ET
Agree torres takes direction from the coach and i also hold their captain responsible for this style of play since i think condones it
I wanted doan at one point and the hawks need a doan type player maybe but i think doan is also an a$$ hole
Bickell may be doan if he decides to keep playing the way he did last game. Hope coaches keep emphasizing this to him. Stalberg could also do this and if he does to with his speed finishing checks would be devastating to the opposition

- molly2522

If Carcillo were to pull the same stunt as Torres, and he is certainly capable, does that mean Toews condoned it?
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:04 AM ET
It would be just a terrible thing to see Torres block a slapshot with his face.
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
If Torres actually decides to man up and fight bollig bollig better hold him up and continue to pound him even if he is out cold. If Im the ref I let it go on until bollig is tootired to continue. That will send a message to the league his style of play will not be tolerated
F Doan too as the captain you are also responsible
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:09 AM ET
If Carcillo were to pull the same stunt as Torres, and he is certainly capable, does that mean Toews condoned it?
- paulr

yes the captain is the leader and as such carcillo can go after torres cleanly and then fight him
Holes02
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:10 AM ET
Karma Chameleon, he plays for the Culture Club, he comes and goes.
- Ballam


Two-way contract...
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:10 AM ET
yes the captain is the leader and as such carcillo can go after torres cleanly and then fight him
- molly2522

This $hit has to stop with the players
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:11 AM ET
Well said, in the echo chamber here it is important to balance your dreams with reality.

If I see another person drop a "hits" statistic and hang their hat on it, I am coming with a blind side two hander.

Try looking at the stat for wins and goals for, and the fact that if our team is engaged, will be the best team on the ice every night.

- TrueGrit


I'm not a big believer in hits for the sake of hitting and if you read my post you'd know that. What the Hawks need is more balance, not for regular season points, but to be a force in the playoffs when it gets harder to play. Right now the Hawks mainly gain access to the opposition's zone with finesse, they need to balance that with some dump and chase and physical puck battles to open up the ice for finesse too. The balance and depth the Hawks had in 2010 is what I'd like them try to recreate.

Just as an aside, am I to take it you were satisfied with their impressive regular season point total last season? Overlooking the fact the Hawks need a more balanced line up to compete in the playoffs makes you a candidate for that 'blind side two hander'.

PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 7 @ 9:14 AM ET
Interesting Does not seem Colarado is a fit

The Avalanche and Ryan O’Reilly’s camp did talk, but it looking like neither side is going to budge. The Avs remain at 2 years and $7 million or 5 years and $17 million. O’Reilly is closer on the 2 year deal than on the 5 years, where he’s looking for closer to $25 million. Two scenarios could now be either a trade or an offer sheet. It’s unclear if the Avs would consider moving him. The possibility of an offer sheet is growing. If O’Reilly signed a deal between $3,364,392 to $5,046,585, the Avs would get a 1st and 3rd round pick. If between $5,046,586 to $6,728,781, it would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. Offers $6.7 million and higher are at least 2 1st round picks. If the Avs matched the offer, they are not allowed to trade him for one year.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:16 AM ET
Here is what I would like to see happen:

After an offsides whistle, shoot a high shot right past Smith's earhole. Or better yet, right between the eyes.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:17 AM ET
If Torres actually decides to man up and fight bollig bollig better hold him up and continue to pound him even if he is out cold. If Im the ref I let it go on until bollig is tootired to continue. That will send a message to the league his style of play will not be tolerated
F Doan too as the captain you are also responsible

- molly2522


Jesus - just finish checks and hit enough to win the game.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
Two-way contract...
- Holes02


Only one way, I think - just not the "normal" way.
Holes02
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
Only one way, I think - just not the "normal" way.
- StLBravesFan


Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Holes02
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:20 AM ET
Jesus - just finish checks and hit enough to win the game.
- StLBravesFan


This.

Worrying about exacting revenge on Torres is a real quick way to get yourself run out of the building. Worry about scoring more goals than the other team and finish the checks that are there to be finished.
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:20 AM ET
Jesus - just finish checks and hit enough to win the game.
- StLBravesFan


Torres represents everything I hate about the game
Ballam
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 02.07.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:21 AM ET
Here is what I would like to see happen:

After an offsides whistle, shoot a high shot right past Smith's earhole. Or better yet, right between the eyes.

- powerenforcer


It's hard for me to decide who I dislike more, Raffi Torres or Mike Smith. I just hope we get to see Mike Smith freak out and break his stick on the net again, there's something strangely satisfying about watching that man lose his marbles
Holes02
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:21 AM ET
Torres represents everything I hate about the game
- molly2522


I hate losing more than I hate Torres.
Ballam
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 02.07.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
Torres represents everything I hate about the game
- molly2522


He's a dirtbag. I can only hope that eventually somebody is going to put him in his place, but the Hawks would be stupid to try to exact revenge on him tonight in any way other than getting a win against the Yotes
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Feb 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
Jesus - just finish checks and hit enough to win the game.
- StLBravesFan


Agreed. I don't like the Coyotes and their clown crew of Doan, Miguel Smith and f**kin torres, but the way to get back at them is getting 2 points tonight.

"I don’t care. it’s a thing you don’t forget. Like I said, you know I move the page, and it’s another season. I just try to focus on my game." - Hossa
FredoXV
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: OH
Joined: 06.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
Agree torres takes direction from the coach and i also hold their captain responsible for this style of play since i think condones it
I wanted doan at one point and the hawks need a doan type player maybe but i think doan is also an a$$ hole
Bickell may be doan if he decides to keep playing the way he did last game. Hope coaches keep emphasizing this to him. Stalberg could also do this and if he does to with his speed finishing checks would be devastating to the opposition

- molly2522



Since late last year, Doan has been given some media-manufactured squeaky-clean image that is complete BS. This has been amplified throughout the free-agent process (He's a family man, a great leader, blah blah blah), and also through his "stately" participation in the lockout talks.

Fact is, Doan is and always has been a big physical forward who plays with an edge, and isn't shy about taking runs and cheap shots on opponents Here are a couple recent examples -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sR2gyenWWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTMmS3Zx2z0

If you also watch the Shanna-ban video for the Benn hit, he states that Doan is in fact a repeat offender. Thus, you better believe the persona Phoenix - i.e. Torres - isn't all Raffi just being Raffi. It's condoned and encouraged by team leadership.

There was alos a play in one of the early playoff games last year where Doan used his stick to grind Toews's face into the ice after a whisitle. I wish to God I could find a video of it, but it was disgusting. He's got a lot of folks fooled into thinking he's a prototypical hockey captain and all around great guy, when really he is a relatively dirty player.

And not that I dislike that type of player in general, that type of thing is necessary in the game in my opinion. I do get sick of him masquerading as something he's not, however.
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