AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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ok kessel.... let me summarize what would turn into 10 pages
option 1: he isnt going to be the guy we want to build around trade him now for young assets
option 2: he is going to be exactly the guy the leafs end up looking for in a couple years if the leafs move him
option 3: moving him makes no sense right now, wait til he says he wont resign
option 4: they will never recoup what they paid for him so might as well keep a young 30 goal scorer. - Dozzer
Option 1: We put the Cheese on top of the beef patty, and the bacon underneath. Onions and Peppers sit on the condiments at the bottom of the pile. We toast said bun before putting this concotion together and whence all this is together, we throw lettuce on top, and close bun.
option 2: I don't have an option 2. Option one sounds good enough. mmmmm |
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Dozzer
ok Im done
I have to get some work done at some point today... The next 2 weeks I am off...going somewhere warm... Ottawa sucks in the winter...not just the sens, the weather too |
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Howard Berger ā@Berger_BYTES
Source tells me today #Leafs and #Senators have approached Florida about centre Stephen Weiss. Would look superb on either team. |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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ok kessel.... let me summarize what would turn into 10 pages
option 1: he isnt going to be the guy we want to build around trade him now for young assets
option 2: he is going to be exactly the guy the leafs end up looking for in a couple years if the leafs move him
option 3: moving him makes no sense right now, wait til he says he wont resign
option 4: they will never recoup what they paid for him so might as well keep a young 30 goal scorer. - Dozzer
option 4B: he signs a 5 year deal with Florida, and the Leafs are left with nothing let alone recouping what they paid for him.
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iām way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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1979AD
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Howard Berger ā@Berger_BYTES
Source tells me today #Leafs and #Senators have approached Florida about centre Stephen Weiss. Would look superb on either team. - faceto27
I'd rather stick with Grabovski. |
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.HOHO.
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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ok kessel.... let me summarize what would turn into 10 pages
option 1: he isnt going to be the guy we want to build around trade him now for young assets
option 2: he is going to be exactly the guy the leafs end up looking for in a couple years if the leafs move him
option 3: moving him makes no sense right now, wait til he says he wont resign
option 4: they will never recoup what they paid for him so might as well keep a young 30 goal scorer. - Dozzer
Kinda cool to post your opinions and not have them torn apart by an armchair GM with a crystal ball and unlimited hindsight at their disposal , isn't it ?
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Howard Berger ā@Berger_BYTES
Source tells me today #Leafs and #Senators have approached Florida about centre Stephen Weiss. Would look superb on either team. - faceto27
(frank) me....
The cheese berger strikes again.. |
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jimi james
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![:urg:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/urg.gif) - systemtool
![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) yeah weird post if you dont know the subject matter |
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systemtool
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I'd rather stick with Grabovski. - 1979AD
Amen. Weiss is not a number #1 C. Not if you planning on being good.
We'd just be stuck with two Grabo's. And he's small.
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1979AD
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Kinda cool to post your opinions and not have them torn apart by an armchair GM with a crystal ball and unlimited hindsight at their disposal , isn't it ?
![:thumbsup:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif) - .HOHO.
Did a certain double-identity poster get suspended recently? How long? |
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1979AD
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Amen. Weiss is not a number #1 C. Not if you planning on being good.
We'd just be stuck with two Grabo's. And he's small. - systemtool
Meh, he's cheap and his deal is up at the end of the year. He's also better than Bozak. |
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faceto27
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Meh, he's cheap and his deal is up at the end of the year. He's also better than Bozak. - Pecafan Fan
Thats not exactly a ring of endorsement. |
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Meh, he's cheap and his deal is up at the end of the year. He's also better than Bozak. - Pecafan Fan
Which means he'll be looking for a big contract extension in a years time |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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ok kessel.... let me summarize what would turn into 10 pages
option 1: he isnt going to be the guy we want to build around trade him now for young assets
option 2: he is going to be exactly the guy the leafs end up looking for in a couple years if the leafs move him
option 3: moving him makes no sense right now, wait til he says he wont resign
option 4: they will never recoup what they paid for him so might as well keep a young 30 goal scorer. - Dozzer
It's a really hard call with Kessel. I do really like the guy, and think he's more or less carried himself well in TOR. the problem is cap manageability.
Lupul got a deal that, if healthy, is pretty much his max value. But it leaves us in a tight spot because Phil will be in a position to demand in the 6.5 range, and I'm just not convinced he's worth it(this despite the fact that his drought hasn't really effected his trade value.)
My hope is that we don't dig ourselves into cap trouble with guys that can't even make the playoffs for us.
I would like to see a serious attempt to lock down Kadri, Gardiner and Frattin for long term deals that carry through most of their 20's. If this is done, we'll get them at a significant discount.
What needs to be done with our cap situation in order for us to be good going forward is:
Mac, Bozak and perhaps Steckel don't fit on this roster medium-long term. Mac costs too much, Bozak doesn't have all the tools despite his faceoff prowess to stay on the roster in any meaningful capacity.
Kadri, Gardiner and Frattin should be getting modest long term deals that lock them down for cheap, I think Nazem would be good with a 6 yr, 20m or something similar. The same can be said for Frattin and Jake next summer.
Not thrilled with Liles and Komi considering their cap hits, but until we gets better plugs we can't consider the buyout option just yet. Either way Liles makes way too much money for his performance |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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(frank) me....
The cheese berger strikes again.. - systemtool
lol.
Bozak, Mac and Komi
Boook it! |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Thats not exactly a ring of endorsement. - faceto27
May help Kessel more than Bozak does at the moment. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Weiss turns 30 this year, and is a pending UFA.
This will be a good opportunity for him to land a big payday, and I just don`t think he`s worth it.
He makes 3m per now, and will want 4-4.5 methinks |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Which means he'll be looking for a big contract extension in a years time - toskala4vezina
buggers beat me to it... |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Kinda cool to post your opinions and not have them torn apart by an armchair GM with a crystal ball and unlimited hindsight at their disposal , isn't it ?
![:thumbsup:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif) - .HOHO.
UG and L4G are like an middle aged married couple that haven`t had a good shag in years.
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Pecafan Fan
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Which means he'll be looking for a big contract extension in a years time - toskala4vezina
I'd see him as a short term solution for the current season. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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agreed.
i think we're about to see a pretty major house cleaning after this season.. alot of guys wont be back - Dozzer
You talking the Leafs or the leaf hockeybuzz comment sections |
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Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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chemical doesn't sound like it hurts.
Castration. Period. - Pecafan Fan
pick painful chemicals.
that will make them shrivel up and fall off.
painfully.
and slowly. |
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Two_For_Truth
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Jerry Colangelo.
The NHL Owners.
And I know that you are such a brilliant businessman that you would have done 100 things different, but for the record, the only other alternative was to fold the franchise. - Atomic Wedgie
So Jerry Colangelo is the reason why the Coyotes play 45 minutes away from Phoenix?
Guess who represents the NHL owners? Guess who has the responsibility of telling the NHL owners that a stupid idea is in fact a stupid idea rather than putting sprinkles on a turd and calling it a franchise.
It was and still is Bettman's job to ensure franchises are located in markets where they can actually succeed and he failed miserably at doing that with Phoenix. |
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