You know what prock, you're alright.
- Lahey

Yeah, I didn't mean 50 points, I mean what would be 50 points over a full season. So, 32 points or whatever?

And yeah, the rest of Gagner's game is still just terrible.

Kadri and Frattin have been a huge part of carrying the team, in Kessel's slump. But, much like Gagner, I don't expect Kadri to continue being a point per game guy. I'd be surprised if he hits 32 points too, and he's obviously a lot better than Gagner. I doubt Frattin hits 20 goals either, despite him being on pace for more.
- prock

Faceoffs have been the big thing. The rest of his game is looking pretty good.

I love how you just slip that right in there.

Yeah, I didn't mean 50 points, I mean what would be 50 points over a full season. So, 32 points or whatever?

And yeah, the rest of Gagner's game is still just terrible.

Kadri and Frattin have been a huge part of carrying the team, in Kessel's slump. But, much like Gagner, I don't expect Kadri to continue being a point per game guy. I'd be surprised if he hits 32 points too, and he's obviously a lot better than Gagner. I doubt Frattin hits 20 goals either, despite him being on pace for more.
- prock

A lot? Dude.

Faceoffs have been the big thing. The rest of his game is looking pretty good.

I love how you just slip that right in there.
- Morris

Well, you touched on his faceoffs in the previous post. Just responding to that.

Yeah, I didn't mean 50 points, I mean what would be 50 points over a full season. So, 32 points or whatever?

And yeah, the rest of Gagner's game is still just terrible.

Kadri and Frattin have been a huge part of carrying the team, in Kessel's slump. But, much like Gagner, I don't expect Kadri to continue being a point per game guy. I'd be surprised if he hits 32 points too, and he's obviously a lot better than Gagner. I doubt Frattin hits 20 goals either, despite him being on pace for more.
- prock

I smell BullShit...

- Salvo

I like what he does on the NHL talk boards.

Well, you touched on his faceoffs in the previous post. Just responding to that.
- prock

Ah I see. Yeah it is frustrating to watch Nuge and Gagner, when guys like Smyth who don't have much experience with faceoffs do better just by being able to outmuscle and battle guys. The two young guys should either working on having the fastest hand-eye or hit the gym a bit, right now their tools are kind of limited in the dot.

Ah I see. Yeah it is frustrating to watch Nuge and Gagner, when guys like Smyth who don't have much experience with faceoffs do better just by being able to outmuscle and battle guys. The two young guys should either working on having the fastest hand-eye or hit the gym a bit, right now their tools are kind of limited in the dot.
- Morris

or, when you said slip that right in there... Did you mean the "obviously Kadri is much better"?



Just playing around there.

or, when you said slip that right in there... Did you mean the "obviously Kadri is much better"?



Just playing around there.
- prock

Yeah that's what I was getting at. Right now they're similar: boys who think the game well, doing as good as they can playing against full-grown men.

Only difference is that Gags has less time left on the clock, although knowing Toronto's pressure I wouldn't have been surprised if Kadri was on his last stand at the beginning of the season.

I like what he does on the NHL talk boards.
- Lahey

Mastery indeed.

Yeah that's what I was getting at. Right now they're similar: boys who think the game well, doing as good as they can playing against full-grown men.

Only difference is that Gags has less time left on the clock, although knowing Toronto's pressure I wouldn't have been surprised if Kadri was on his last stand at the beginning of the season.
- Morris

After his first few years, I still think the Leafs would be lucky to get a 50 to 60 point winger out of him. Which, hope for that was starting to dissipate. But, his play this year has renewed that hope. If they get any more than that, I'd be surprised. Pleasantly so.

Holy (frank), ANOTHER break for the Oilers.

So now buy-out candidate, Shawn Horcoff, goes down and will be placed on LTIR and suddenly the Oilers find themselves with an additional $5.5M in cap space.

Some teams...

Holy (frank), ANOTHER break for the Oilers.

So now buy-out candidate #1, Shawn Horcoff, goes down and will be placed on LTIR and suddenly the Oilers find themselves with an additional $5.5M in cap space.

Some teams...
- As_I_See_It

We didn't need the cap space in the first place.

Nuge, horcoff, and Belanger out...arcobello with hall and Eberle.

Nuge, horcoff, and Belanger out...arcobello with hall and Eberle.
- deks1

Nuge? What happened to him? Didnt see anything..

After his first few years, I still think the Leafs would be lucky to get a 50 to 60 point winger out of him. Which, hope for that was starting to dissipate. But, his play this year has renewed that hope. If they get any more than that, I'd be surprised. Pleasantly so.
- prock

Might wanna wait until the half post before making that call.

Who's panacking? The Oilers have looked terrible the last few games. Don't put a spin on it.
- doon

exactly.

no ones panicking. every one of those words is completely true along with some thoughts on how to make this team better. 2 different concepts completely.


maybe he just had an overwhelming urge to post 10 emoticons

Ya I always felt Wilson had some untapped offense playing under trots. However trotz is grooming a solid two way player that we could take advantage of. Granted Nashville needs scoring forwards, I agree paajarvi would fit well there.

How high are the ducks on Peter holland? There are options for tambo he's just got to pick up the phone and make the decisions a gm is hired to do (if he hasn't been calling already)
- ystoil

I don't thin Anthem wants anything to do with the Oilers after Schultz

Might wanna wait until the half post before making that call.
- sanfordnson

That's precisely why I say it's renewed "hope". If it were more than that, I would have said it looks like they have that, or other. I'm not, by any stretch, claiming he is one. But it looks like there may be hope yet.

I don't thin Anthem wants anything to do with the Oilers after Schultz
- Dean_Youngblood

Why? Oilers didnt do a anything wrong. Just bid for a free agents services like many other teams.

Yeah, I didn't mean 50 points, I mean what would be 50 points over a full season. So, 32 points or whatever?

And yeah, the rest of Gagner's game is still just terrible.

Kadri and Frattin have been a huge part of carrying the team, in Kessel's slump. But, much like Gagner, I don't expect Kadri to continue being a point per game guy. I'd be surprised if he hits 32 points too, and he's obviously a lot better than Gagner. I doubt Frattin hits 20 goals either, despite him being on pace for more.
- prock

I wouldn't call it a slump. I would just call it Phyllis

Instead of always thinking we need different dmen, how about the whole team commit to playing better defense?
- OilHorse

it's both.

alot of those forwards just flat out arent that good at it. and what u say would help.

but our defence is only marginally better than the debacle its been in the past few years. potter, whitney, a rookie, fistric..even smid and petry who i think can be great long term and are our most dependable pairing, have been pretty error prone lately.

we do need different/better dmen

Why? Oilers didnt do a anything wrong. Just bid for a free agents services like many other teams.
- sanfordnson

I know just sour taste. Someone had to get him.

it's both. alot of those forwards just flat out arent that good at it. and what u say would help.

but our defence is only marginally better than the debacle its been in the past few years. potter, whitney, a rookie, fistric..even smid and petry who i think can be great long term and are our most dependable pairing, have been pretty error prone lately.

we do need different/better dmen
- hugefemale dog77

Smid and Fistric are our most legit defensive minded guys. Petry doesnt get near the credit he should for his two way play.

after that yeah...

We didn't need the cap space in the first place.
- Lahey

No, but it certainly doesn't hurt either is my point, ESPECIALLY if the Oilers find themselves in a favorable position in the standings come trade deadline.