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deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 9:54 PM ET
Islanders have lots of offensive weapons and may prefer a defensive prospect for Nelson. Would klefbom for Nelson be fair? Klefboms development may become hampered with injuries. Then again I constantly hear good things about him. Something to consider. Nelson might be closer to NHL ready then klefbom as well since klefbom will have to adjust to the North American game.

I also like the paajarvi and Eller swap mentioned earlier.

- ystoil


I think NYI needs more help on the wing. They have some d-man prospects coming along just like EDM. I am not sure does EDM have alot of depth on wing in OKC to trade.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
Islanders have lots of offensive weapons and may prefer a defensive prospect for Nelson. Would klefbom for Nelson be fair? Klefboms development may become hampered with injuries. Then again I constantly hear good things about him. Something to consider. Nelson might be closer to NHL ready then klefbom as well since klefbom will have to adjust to the North American game.

I also like the paajarvi and Eller swap mentioned earlier.

- ystoil


I would take that trade. Makes sense from both sides. Oil get a big C (don't need to get rid of Gags, just put him on the wing and rid of hem sky), NYI get an A quality D prospect who might step in next year.

Although Klefbom might be worth a bit more. I'd take Nelson +a little or Bjugstad straight up.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
I would take that trade. Makes sense from both sides. Oil get a big C (don't need to get rid of Gags, just put him on the wing and rid of hem sky), NYI get an A quality D prospect who might step in next year.

Although Klefbom might be worth a bit more. I'd take Nelson +a little or Bjugstad straight up.

- TheNugeIsHuge


FLA fans suggested Ellerby for PRV. NYI definitely won't care for Gagner. Tavares, Strome, Neilsen, and Nelson got that top 2C held down.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
I don't know why the Oilers would buy out Horcoff. They're cap situation is sitting in a decent spot next year. And in two years they have only like 20 mil committed.

Good faceoff guys don't grow on trees either.

- DTF69

Its blindingly simple.

Howd the ass bleaching go?
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:11 PM ET
Its blindingly simple.

Howd the ass bleaching go?

- sanfordnson


Pristine.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
Pristine.
- DTF69

MOAR
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I would take that trade. Makes sense from both sides. Oil get a big C (don't need to get rid of Gags, just put him on the wing and rid of hem sky), NYI get an A quality D prospect who might step in next year.

Although Klefbom might be worth a bit more. I'd take Nelson +a little or Bjugstad straight up.

- TheNugeIsHuge


I would also love Bjugstad. But I think he'd be tough to get. Is he signed or maybe we wait and snag him like Schultz
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:20 PM ET
I would also love Bjugstad. But I think he'd be tough to get. Is he signed or maybe we wait and snag him like Schultz
- ystoil


I think teams are watching their assets very carefully now after the Schultz drama. Always find a way to make sure they retain their prospects. ANA had a chance to trade Schultz, they chose not to.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
I think teams are watching their assets very carefully now after the Schultz drama. Always find a way to make sure they retain their prospects. ANA had a chance to trade Schultz, they chose not to.
- deks1


Colin Wilson out of Nashville would be an interesting option. Not for klefbom but maybe another deal.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:34 PM ET
Colin Wilson out of Nashville would be an interesting option. Not for klefbom but maybe another deal.
- ystoil


I actually think NSH is a team that can use Gagner. I wouldn't deal Gagner for Wilson, especially how is Gagner is doing right now. NSH is lacking top six forwards big time.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:40 PM ET
I don't know why the Oilers would buy out Horcoff. They're cap situation is sitting in a decent spot next year. And in two years they have only like 20 mil committed.

Good faceoff guys don't grow on trees either.

- DTF69

because i'm mad that he earns a lot of moneys and doesn't dangle or score a lot. also did i mention his contract? i hate that he makes a lot of moneys
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:41 PM ET
Canucks were called pushovers...that was the original subject.

Pretty sure hordisuck and eager don't scare anyone.

- dshiddy











TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
FLA fans suggested Ellerby for PRV. NYI definitely won't care for Gagner. Tavares, Strome, Neilsen, and Nelson got that top 2C held down.
- deks1


Not suggesting trading Gags. Keep Gags around and play him as 2LW.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
Colin Wilson out of Nashville would be an interesting option. Not for klefbom but maybe another deal.
- ystoil

Mentioned that one a while back. He's got size, is solid on the dot, has solid offensive potential, maintains a solid two-way game, and he fits in age wise. He shouldn't cost too much either considering his lack of any sort of breakout as of yet. I think a package including Paajarvi- another prospect that hasn't had too much success- and a pick. Paajarvi could fit into Trotz's system quite well, too. I wish Nashville fans existed. Then we could get their opinion on this deal
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
Its blindingly simple.

Howd the ass bleaching go?

- sanfordnson


Why would one want to bleach their bumhole?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:47 PM ET
Not suggesting trading Gags. Keep Gags around and play him as 2LW.
- TheNugeIsHuge

But he's had trouble on the wing in the past. I'm with you that we ought to keep him, but we don't know how he'd fare. If a deal like that plays out, I say we play Gagner at center, but have Wilson take the faceoffs. Kinda like what Dallas did when they played Ott and Benn together last year.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:48 PM ET
Mentioned that one a while back. He's got size, is solid on the dot, has solid offensive potential, maintains a solid two-way game, and he fits in age wise. He shouldn't cost too much either considering his lack of any sort of breakout as of yet. I think a package including Paajarvi- another prospect that hasn't had too much success- and a pick. Paajarvi could fit into Trotz's system quite well, too. I wish Nashville fans existed. Then we could get their opinion on this deal
- MaximumBone


I just don't know how fans feel about trading PRV. PRV-Lander-Teemu line could possibly be a future line for EDM.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:51 PM ET
But he's had trouble on the wing in the past. I'm with you that we ought to keep him, but we don't know how he'd fare. If a deal like that plays out, I say we play Gagner at center, but have Wilson take the faceoffs. Kinda like what Dallas did when they played Ott and Benn together last year.
- MaximumBone


Yeah, I agree with you. Gagner just fits the C position better than being on the wing. Putting him on the wing can negatively affect his value. I would do what you suggested and play him if he's in EDM long term plans and build his value for future deals.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:51 PM ET
I just don't know how fans feel about trading PRV. PRV-Lander-Teemu line could possibly be a future line for EDM.
- deks1

Yeah, they looked great last game and during their time in OKC. I think playing with Hartikainen brings out the best in Paajarvi.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Feb 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
MOAR
- sanfordnson

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:45 AM ET
HitmanKiller12
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 12:51 AM ET
Islanders have lots of offensive weapons and may prefer a defensive prospect for Nelson. Would klefbom for Nelson be fair? Klefboms development may become hampered with injuries. Then again I constantly hear good things about him. Something to consider. Nelson might be closer to NHL ready then klefbom as well since klefbom will have to adjust to the North American game.

I also like the paajarvi and Eller swap mentioned earlier.

- ystoil


Klefbom is not going anywhere. Atlesst not in a deal for a 3c, albeit one with very high potential. If that means we cant get nelson, then so be it. I think oilers would consider marincin and a 2nd. Not sure how islanders would feel about that.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:58 AM ET

- dshiddy

ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 6 @ 1:06 AM ET
Mentioned that one a while back. He's got size, is solid on the dot, has solid offensive potential, maintains a solid two-way game, and he fits in age wise. He shouldn't cost too much either considering his lack of any sort of breakout as of yet. I think a package including Paajarvi- another prospect that hasn't had too much success- and a pick. Paajarvi could fit into Trotz's system quite well, too. I wish Nashville fans existed. Then we could get their opinion on this deal
- MaximumBone


Ya I always felt Wilson had some untapped offense playing under trots. However trotz is grooming a solid two way player that we could take advantage of. Granted Nashville needs scoring forwards, I agree paajarvi would fit well there.

How high are the ducks on Peter holland? There are options for tambo he's just got to pick up the phone and make the decisions a gm is hired to do (if he hasn't been calling already)
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 6 @ 1:13 AM ET
Ya I always felt Wilson had some untapped offense playing under trots. However trotz is grooming a solid two way player that we could take advantage of. Granted Nashville needs scoring forwards, I agree paajarvi would fit well there.

How high are the ducks on Peter holland? There are options for tambo he's just got to pick up the phone and make the decisions a gm is hired to do (if he hasn't been calling already)

- ystoil


All depends on what Getzlaf does. If Getzlaf gets traded or leaves ANA, then Holland will mean alot to ANA towards the future, even though I think Gagner would fit well there. Get to play some with ex-Oilers.

DET is interested in Whitney since their defensive dept is beaten by injuries. I say toss them Omark too since Zetterberg and Brunner did so well with him in Europe. Hemsky is probably also a good fit in DET.
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