Jack Johnson and the 30th overall pick. That's the grand plan to save the franchise?
- Leeman4Gilmour

So you want to trade Kessel for the 30th pick overall, yeah that is a recipe for success.
- LeafMan

That's what Howson got after Carter had obliterated his own value. Prior to that, Carter gave the Flyers Voracek and a 1st that turned into Couturier.

The value is there if you find the right team at the right time.

And you also both ignore the fact that the Leafs would be drafting in a great position with their own pick.

It's funny. You two will argue to the death that Kessel is an elite goal scorer and yet you think he's worth nothing in a trade. Be consistent.

Or maybe Kadri and Frattin start getting more ice time as a result. Just like you wanted.

Maybe they perform well enough that they keep us out of the basement.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Playing more of Kadri and Frattin will disrupt the subtle tank

I have no idea....... but there were two Pens scouts watching last night. Pens have been interested, and apparently Malkin is pushing for it. He played with Kuli in the KHL.

Maybe the Pens first.
- faceto27

Scott Harrington?

Kulemin is arguably the best 2 way forward on the Leafs, I don't think it would be wise to trade him.

Kassian, Gaunce and a 1st.
- Two_For_Truth

No thank you, we already have a better version of Kessel in Raymond.
One soft perimeter player is enough.

Scott Harrington?

Kulemin is arguably the best 2 way forward on the Leafs, I don't think it would be wise to trade him.
- LeafMan

Kuli has proven that hes magic in the KHL with Malkin as center. A line of Neal, Malkin and Kuli could be scary.

So, Kulemin for the 25th overall pick?

And this helps us?
- Leeman4Gilmour

Yeah, sure, why not?
He was a 43rd I believe, who's not to say we can find talent at 25 even better than him.

The Leafs will get a player better than Kessel when if they fall to the bottom of the standings and are able to draft him.
- Two_For_Truth

Kuli has proven that hes magic in the KHL with Malkin as center. A line of Neal, Malkin and Kuli could be scary.
- Holy_Makinaw99

and that helps the Leafs how?

So, Kulemin for the 25th overall pick?

And this helps us?
- Leeman4Gilmour

probably not..... I wouldn't do that trade. But just saying that is what the Pens were offering Burke last year for Kuli

Or maybe Kadri and Frattin start getting more ice time as a result. Just like you wanted.

Maybe they perform well enough that they keep us out of the basement.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Thats been my point exactly.

Joe Morrow.
- ThePresident

he'd be the only guy i'd consider from the pens really

and that helps the Leafs how?
- LeafMan

It doesnt. Im saying that we dont trade him to the Pens ever, as we will regret it every time we play them.

Jack Johnson and the 30th overall pick. That's the grand plan to save the franchise?
- Leeman4Gilmour

Trading Sequin, Hamilton for Kessel was the first plan to save us

we are doomed

Or maybe Kadri and Frattin start getting more ice time as a result. Just like you wanted.

Maybe they perform well enough that they keep us out of the basement.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Doubt it. Frattin and Kadri are currently the hot hand. Doesn't mean they can keep it up for the whole season. It also doesn't mean that they can handle the defensive part of the game for the whole season.

Frattin and Kadri should be getting more ice time now because they're on fire. When they're hot, you go with it. But I wouldn't expect it to last the whole year. Odds are, even if it did, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them out of the basement.

Again no.
Kassian is looking better than he cause he's with the Sedins.
- Fakepartofme

1st overall, Kassian, Gaunce and another 1st round pick all of a result of trading Kessel?

Again, yes.

No thank you, we already have a better version of Kessel in Raymond.
One soft perimeter player is enough.
- Whiskey-Tango

Kessel is not soft anymore, he is finally softish

Like i said

TOR
Nicklas Backstrom

WSH
Dion Phaneuf
Tyler Bozak

Make it happen Nonis
- Holy_Makinaw99

Seriously? This is why people hate Leaf threads.
Bobby Ryan for Kessel - why would Anaheim do that?
And junk for Backstrom isn't going to cut it.
Just because you want to unload a player doesn't make it possible.

1st overall, Kassian, Gaunce and another 1st round pick all of a result of trading Kessel?

Again, yes.
- Two_For_Truth

2 1sts, Gaunce and Kassian?

No team is going to pay that...

1st overall, Kassian, Gaunce and another 1st round pick all of a result of trading Kessel?

Again, yes.
- Two_For_Truth

if that deal was on the table i'd jump all over it

but then again i really like gaunce.

Nothing exciting happening?

1st overall, Kassian, Gaunce and another 1st round pick all of a result of trading Kessel?

Again, yes.
- Two_For_Truth

I'd do that

2 1sts, Gaunce and Kassian?

No team is going to pay that...
- systemtool

Sometimes I wonder if people here realize you need at least two GM's to make a trade.

Seriously? This is why people hate Leaf threads.
Bobby Ryan for Kessel - why would Anaheim do that?
And junk for Backstrom isn't going to cut it.
Just because you want to unload a player doesn't make it possible.
- dawgzhouse

go back to your dawghouse, who the frank let you out anyways?

Sometimes I wonder if people here realize you need at least two GM's to make a trade.
- LeafMan

oh yeah, there is no way the canucks make that deal.. but if gillis got drunk and offered that for kessel.. yes you make that deal.. horribly lop sided

Sometimes I wonder if people here realize you need at least two GM's to make a trade.
- LeafMan

Some do, some still dont.

You can make a case for anyone by making up lopsided trades.