Meh, I guess that the job is to get hits. That can either be done by being a really respectable guy for the abomination of a franchise whose team banned their neighbouring team's fans from wearing jerseys in the arena the last time they were in the playoffs...

.... or by being a troll blogger for a team that everybody loves to hate, but may be the best chance this country has at a cup for however long it take Edmonton to figure out WTF they're doing with their defense
- lumlums

Also true....

Trolling
- lumlums

He didn't say #1 NHL goalie. That guy is an AHL stud.

He didn't say #1 NHL goalie. That guy is an AHL stud.
- Nucker101

Tell me about that. We may be the one of the AHL favourites while also being first in line for a shot at jones/mackinnon in the big show.

I'm yet to know how I feel about this (especially after tonight's game).

I'll let you know when the nausea wears off

EDIT: or when the wine does

Ranford was elite, Fuhr just had the ability to come up big in the playoffs and the 80's Oilers could outscore just about any defensive gaffes they'd commit. Fuhr had a five hole bigger than a Thai hooker's cooch, but he did have a great glove hand that stole the Oilers games, especially against the Flames back when the Flames actually were relevant.
- DariusKnight

Wow, Grant Fuhr...not elite...woah

Tell me about that. We may be the one of the AHL favourites while also being first in line for a shot at jones/mackinnon in the big show.

I'm yet to know how I feel about this (especially after tonight's game).

I'll let you know when the nausea wears off
- lumlums

You know what they say... Pwned for Jones, $hittin' for McKinnon, Pooing for Droiun, etc and so forth. Besides, it can't be any worse right... at least you're not Columbus... ... ... yeah, I'll just stop there and leave you to your sorrows man.

Wow, Grant Fuhr...not elite...woah
- JLO961

4.0 GAA and .888 save percentage = not elite.

Ranford was elite, Fuhr just had the ability to come up big in the playoffs and the 80's Oilers could outscore just about any defensive gaffes they'd commit. Fuhr had a five hole bigger than a Thai hooker's cooch, but he did have a great glove hand that stole the Oilers games, especially against the Flames back when the Flames actually were relevant.
- DariusKnight

I mean....ya, there's all of that.

Seriously, are you laying this out there for a barrage of "you wouldn't know how important that is would you?" bull$hit.

You gotta give Fuhr more then that - he was clutch A LOT during the regular season.
I'd like to see any goalie play with those pads nowadays.

4.0 GAA and .888 save percentage = not elite.
- dshiddy

Great playoff goalie, average regular season goalie, see:

- Cam Ward
- Jose Theodore
- Chris Osgood
- Jimmy Howard
- Ryan Miller
- Nikolai Khabibulin
- Dwayne Roloson
- Mikka Kippursoff

4.0 GAA and .888 save percentage = not elite.
- dshiddy

Coffey was too busy potting hat-tricks on Garrett to give a fukk about a backcheck.

Hmmm, I'd like to see other goalies numbers from that time.
I'm still pretty sure Fuhr weren't at the top though...

4.0 GAA and .888 save percentage = not elite.
- dshiddy

(frank). Thats worse than Glenn Healy.

I thought that nobody was worse than Healy at anything.


I guess this was back when people scored like 70-80 goals a season though, so maybe not easy to compare to today's numbers

I mean....ya, there's all of that.

Seriously, are you laying this out there for a barrage of "you wouldn't know how important that is would you?" bull$hit.

You gotta give Fuhr more then that - he was clutch A LOT during the regular season.
I'd like to see any goalie play with those pads nowadays.
- Salvo

I (well, my dad really) had season's tickets to the Canucks from 83 until they moved to then GM Place, so I saw a LOT of Grant Fuhr over the years. He was the type of goalie who cared little for the regular season, only as getting in shape for the playoffs (which admittedly he was great in).

wow
this is crazy
i think that other dude just mentioned antti niemi and grant fuhr in the same sentence

Named to NHL Second All-Star Team in 1982.
Stanley Cup championships in 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1990.
Canada Cup champion in 1984, 1987.
Named to NHL First All-Star Team in 1988.
Won Vezina Trophy in 1988.
Won William M. Jennings Trophy in 1994 (shared with Dominik Hašek).
Played in 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989 NHL All-Star Games.
In 1998, he was ranked number 70 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players.[3]
His #31 was retired by the Edmonton Oilers on October 6, 2001.
Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2003.

Holds NHL record for longest undefeated streak by a goaltender in his first NHL season - 23 in 1982.
Holds NHL record for most assists in a single season by a goaltender - 14 in 1984.
Shares NHL record for most wins in a single season postseason - 16 in 1988.
Holds NHL record for most games played by a goaltender in a single season - 79 in 1996.
Holds NHL record for most consecutive appearances in a single season by a goaltender - 76 in 1996


not elite?? holy eff.

Coffey was too busy potting hat-tricks on Garrett to give a fukk about a backcheck.

Hmmm, I'd like to see other goalies numbers from that time.
I'm still pretty sure Fuhr weren't at the top though...
- Salvo

it was actually. 3.38. not 4.00. and 2.93 in the playoffs.....in the 80's

Coffey was too busy potting hat-tricks on Garrett to give a fukk about a backcheck.

Hmmm, I'd like to see other goalies numbers from that time.
I'm still pretty sure Fuhr weren't at the top though...
- Salvo

Oilers still would have won all those cups with Garrett in net.

Ranford and Fuhr, right time right place.

wow
this is crazy
i think that other dude just mentioned antti niemi and grant fuhr in the same sentence

Named to NHL Second All-Star Team in 1982.
Stanley Cup championships in 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1990.
Canada Cup champion in 1984, 1987.
Named to NHL First All-Star Team in 1988.
Won Vezina Trophy in 1988.
Won William M. Jennings Trophy in 1994 (shared with Dominik Hašek).
Played in 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989 NHL All-Star Games.
In 1998, he was ranked number 70 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players.
- hugefemale dog77[3]
His #31 was retired by the Edmonton Oilers on October 6, 2001.
Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2003.

Holds NHL record for longest undefeated streak by a goaltender in his first NHL season - 23 in 1982.
Holds NHL record for most assists in a single season by a goaltender - 14 in 1984.
Shares NHL record for most wins in a single season postseason - 16 in 1988.
Holds NHL record for most games played by a goaltender in a single season - 79 in 1996.
Holds NHL record for most consecutive appearances in a single season by a goaltender - 76 in 1996


not elite?? holy eff.

Grant Fuhr

NHL totals:

Games Played: 868
Wins: 403
Losses: 295
Ties: 114
Minutes: 48,945
Goals Against: 2,756
Shutouts: 25
Goals Against Average: 3.38
Save Percentage: .887

Now let's look at a real elite goalie from the same era, Patrick Roy

Patrick Roy

NHL Totals

Games Played: 1029
Wins: 551
Losses: 315
Ties: 131
Minutes: 60225
Goals Against: 2546
Shutouts: 66
Goals Against Average: 2.54
Save Percentage: .912

Shall I list all of Patrick Roy's awards/accomplishments?

EDIT: Oh, and Patrick Roy played on some horrible Montreal teams until the early 90's and yet still put up numbers without the scoring help that Fuhr did.

it was actually. 3.38. not 4.00. and 2.93 in the playoffs.....in the 80's
- hugefemale dog77

Awesome, thanks duder.

Grant Fuhr

NHL totals:

Games Played: 868
Wins: 403
Losses: 295
Ties: 114
Minutes: 48,945
Goals Against: 2,756
Shutouts: 25
Goals Against Average: 3.38
Save Percentage: .887

Now let's look at a real elite goalie from the same era, Patrick Roy

Patrick Roy

NHL Totals

Games Played: 1029
Wins: 551
Losses: 315
Ties: 131
Minutes: 60225
Goals Against: 2546
Shutouts: 66
Goals Against Average: 2.54
Save Percentage: .912

Shall I list all of Patrick Roy's awards/accomplishments?

EDIT: Oh, and Patrick Roy played on some horrible Montreal teams until the early 90's and yet still put up numbers without the scoring help that Fuhr did.
- DariusKnight

Didn't realize that those were Fuhr's career numbers, wow!

I gotta stop PVRing the games... I keep missing the post game discussion here.

Grant Fuhr

NHL totals:

Games Played: 868
Wins: 403
Losses: 295
Ties: 114
Minutes: 48,945
Goals Against: 2,756
Shutouts: 25
Goals Against Average: 3.38
Save Percentage: .887

Now let's look at a real elite goalie from the same era, Patrick Roy

Patrick Roy

NHL Totals

Games Played: 1029
Wins: 551
Losses: 315
Ties: 131
Minutes: 60225
Goals Against: 2546
Shutouts: 66
Goals Against Average: 2.54
Save Percentage: .912

Shall I list all of Patrick Roy's awards/accomplishments?

EDIT: Oh, and Patrick Roy played on some horrible Montreal teams until the early 90's and yet still put up numbers without the scoring help that Fuhr did.
- DariusKnight

But we are talking two seperate eras. Dead Puck vs Run and Gun.

I remember that Fuhr had his house in Edmonton. On his driveway he has an Oiler Symbol painted on it.

What about the cocaine abuse? No one seems to talk about that.

This is not BS....

http://articles.latimes.c...orts/sp-286_1_drug-dealer

I remember that Fuhr had his house in Edmonton. On his driveway he has an Oiler Symbol painted on it.

What about the cocaine abuse? No one seems to talk about that.

This is not BS....

http://articles.latimes.c...orts/sp-286_1_drug-dealer
- Beatle_john

trust me, any Oilers fans from that era are well aware. the entire team were notorious hard partiers. if they hadn't been, they likely would have set even more records.

But we are talking two seperate eras. Dead Puck vs Run and Gun.
- Beatle_john

Dead puck era didn't start until after the 94 lockout, when New Jersey with Brodeur won the first of their Cups. Fuhr and Roy were in their primes during the Run and Gun era. I left out Brodeur because he started the Dead Puck era, and that was his prime years so not as good comparison.

Dead puck era didn't start until after the 94 lockout, when New Jersey with Brodeur won the first of their Cups. Fuhr and Roy were in their primes during the Run and Gun era. I left out Brodeur because he started the Dead Puck era, and that was his prime years so not as good comparison.
- DariusKnight

I dont think anyone will argue Roy is better. Fuhr played 5 NHL seasons before Roy came in though, so comparing them along time lines isnt perhaps entirely accurate.

I dont think anyone will argue Roy is better. Fuhr played 5 NHL seasons before Roy came in though, so comparing them along time lines isnt perhaps entirely accurate.
- sanfordnson

But they played together, and unlike skaters who have shorter career spans, goalies tend to play into their late 30's even early 40's so it's as fair of a comparison as I can make. Again, I could probably list several goalies from that era to make my point (like Vernon, Moog, Smith, Hextall), all of whom would have similar numbers to Fuhr in the regular season. The point I was trying to make was that Fuhr (while a GREAT playoff goalie and his numbers bear that out) was not elite because he did not dominate in the regular season as well as the playoffs and that it can't all be accounted for Edmonton's willingness to have their defensemen jump into the rush and leave Fuhr to deal with the odd-man rushes/breakaways that would occur when they turned the puck over.

I dont think anyone will argue Roy is better. Fuhr played 5 NHL seasons before Roy came in though, so comparing them along time lines isnt perhaps entirely accurate.
- sanfordnson

i agree, the dead puck era may have started mid 90s, but Roy played 80% of his games there and Fuhr played 20% (tops)

I still think Roy was better but I do not agree with head to head stats for these guys.

Why not compare Billy Smith to Ron Hextal?