ive heard about that, il try it out...thats the one that shoots in bursts of 4 to start?
- big_dion

Single fire gun. A two hit kill to any area at any range, so when automatic you plow through em

Kessel has a much better wrist shot.

Kessel doesn't want contact, but he isn't terrified by it.

Kessel isn't the most hated man in his own dressing room.

Kessel makes nice passes (Blake never made a single pass his entire life)

Kessel has skin pigment.
- Atomic Wedgie

so a better wrist shot and he isnt hated by his teammates.

so other than he plays poopty better.. how exactly is that any different from what i have said?

the big circle is what i like to call it

circle the offensive zone til there is a clear opening

problem is, this is the NHL.. there is rarely such a thing as a clear opening.
- Dozzer

carlyle needs to show some video

90% of our goals have come on rebounds and from our rookies.

(well frattin, kadri) and jVR for that matter has a few rebounds too

how about we drive the net more!!!!!!!!!!!! just get ANY old shot off, just get it through and keep it low, ITS NOT THAT HARD!

Kessel has a much better wrist shot.

Kessel doesn't want contact, but he isn't terrified by it.

Kessel isn't the most hated man in his own dressing room.

Kessel makes nice passes (Blake never made a single pass his entire life)

Kessel has skin pigment.
- Atomic Wedgie

they both had cancer.. not that it matters,, but if your throw the skin pigment arguement out there it thought id state the most obvious commonality.

Let me stop you there... Kessel isn't scoring for a reason. Most of his shots are wide, hit the post, or are a little weak. He's not going to the dirty areas or battling hard for the puck and this is mostly because he doesn't have the size. Stop making excuses for him. He's an NHL hockey player. He gets paid to put the puck in the net and he's not doing it. He's always been a streaky player and there's no place for a guy like that anymore, especially if he's your most offensive player.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Let me tell you a little story about a guy named Mark Osborne.

One particular playoff series, the goal well ran dry. Like, bone-dry. A reporter asked him if he was worried that he couldn't score.

His reply was that he wasn't worried, because he was still getting chances.

Kessel is still getting chances. They will come.

But he's getting absolutely no help whatsoever.

If he didn't have dog-poop as a centre - or if Lupul was still in the line-up - he'd have 2-4 goals by now.

so a better wrist shot and he isnt hated by his teammates.

so other than he plays poopty better.. how exactly is that any different from what i have said?
- Dozzer

Just stop....... Just stop with this comparison right now.

I don't want to get banned.

it hit both of bozaks skates

it hit the front skate first

if your telling me he meant to hit it off his front skate then off his back skate a milisecond later, then you my friend are living in fantasty land.

not to mention eric staal was backchecking bozak so he was stopping in the crease

but nono he kicked that 75 mph shot from his front skate to his back - hes premier league soccer player..
- big_dion

I don't know why the NHL allows so much discretion in their calls. The rule book is full of this "referee intent" and "referee's judgment" BS.

It's not a court of law; it's a sport. Trying to prove intent is ridiculous. Just make the rule black or white.

Either say that all goals off skates are disallowed, or say that all goals off skates are allowed (provided the blade of the skate is on the ice).

Single fire gun. A two hit kill to any area at any range, so when automatic you plow through em
- AdamFrench

yeah that sounds pretty nasty lol

after the leaf game tonight il pop on for an hour or so!

Dozzer is a little off in his observation skills this morning.
- faceto27

wedgie was the only one to provide an example

so his wrist shot is better and he isnt hated in the dressing room

so he is a better version of blake then? thats all i am taking from this.

Just stop....... Just stop with this comparison right now.

I don't want to get banned.
- faceto27

then provide an argument

no one has gave me a convincing one yet

it hit both of bozaks skates

it hit the front skate first

if your telling me he meant to hit it off his front skate then off his back skate a milisecond later, then you my friend are living in fantasty land.

not to mention eric staal was backchecking bozak so he was stopping in the crease

but nono he kicked that 75 mph shot from his front skate to his back - hes premier league soccer player..
- big_dion

Agreed...He didn't mean to kick/deflect it in with his skate...

That doesn't matter it was deflected in with a forward motion..

and kessel doing his best jason blake impersonation by skating in circles around the perimeter and never driving the net has nothing to do with it?

same thing last year.. when he struggled he stayed to the outside.. when he is scoring he is taking the hit and driving to the front of the net.
- Dozzer

...he can't drive through the defensive forward and two d....kessel has zero options with the puck and the other teams know it and set up accordingly.
without the threat of lupul, kessel is an island.

on another note, can orr please go back to the pressbox, honestly, I'll take almost anyone from the marlies.
...and frazer? good lord man, what a waste of space.
I want guys on the fourth line who can actually skate and HIT, not just trudge about like a couple of meatheads.

when he is slumping yes.. very much blake-like

i have still to hear an actual argument to the contrary

i will give you this, kessel is more talented but that being said, their games are very similar
- Dozzer

Like in the same way my game is very similar to John Holmes?

carlyle needs to show some video

90% of our goals have come on rebounds and from our rookies.

(well frattin, kadri) and jVR for that matter has a few rebounds too

how about we drive the net more!!!!!!!!!!!! just get ANY old shot off, just get it through and keep it low, ITS NOT THAT HARD!
- big_dion

forwards: stop looking for the perfect hole.. its not coming..

defense: take something off your shot and put it on net

thats a big start right there.

I don't know why the NHL allows so much discretion in their calls. The rule book is full of this "referee intent" and "referee's judgment" BS.

It's not a court of law; it's a sport. Trying to prove intent is ridiculous. Just make the rule black or white.

Either say that all goals off skates are disallowed, or say that all goals off skates are allowed (provided the blade of the skate is on the ice).
- Leeman4Gilmour

to call that goal back is absolute bullpoop.

bozak never kicked the puck in, he was stopping in the crease while being backcheck by Staal, who is not weak or small. the puck 100% hit both of his skates, (bozaks) so if he can bank the puck off his front skate to his back with 1 motion in a stopping motion while being back checked, then my god we have the best 1st line center in the league because he should be getting paid 100 mil to play soccer.

wedgie was the only one to provide an example

so his wrist shot is better and he isnt hated in the dressing room

so he is a better version of blake then? thats all i am taking from this.
- Dozzer

Ya and Crosby is better version of Bozak. See how silly your argument is.

Agreed...He didn't mean to kick/deflect it in with his skate...

That doesn't matter it was deflected in with a forward motion..
- Fruitcakenipple

there is no way that goal should have been called back.

horrendous.

Let me tell you a little story about a guy named Mark Osborne.

One particular playoff series, the goal well ran dry. Like, bone-dry. A reporter asked him if he was worried that he couldn't score.

His reply was that he wasn't worried, because he was still getting chances.

Kessel is still getting chances. They will come.

But he's getting absolutely no help whatsoever.

If he didn't have dog-poop as a centre - or if Lupul was still in the line-up - he'd have 2-4 goals by now.
- Atomic Wedgie

nice story

Stop making excuses for him.. He's always scored meaningless goals. And he's not getting that many chances, especially on the PP where he continues to get first unit minutes

...he can't drive through the defensive forward and two d....kessel has zero options with the puck and the other teams know it and set up accordingly.
without the threat of lupul, kessel is an island.

on another note, can orr please go back to the pressbox, honestly, I'll take almost anyone on the marlies....and frazer? good lord man, what a waste of space.
I want guys on the fourth line who can actually skate and HIT, not just trudge about like a couple of meatheads.
- Barx

thats fine for 5 on 5

but on PP? that not the issue and its more of the same.

forwards: stop looking for the perfect hole.. its not coming..

defense: take something off your shot and put it on net

thats a big start right there.
- Dozzer

Defense, keep the shot low for the love of god! Franson takes one shot, about 6 inches off the ice and it ends up in the back of the net.

Dion and Kostka and the rest are trying to go bar down every damn time.

Single fire gun. A two hit kill to any area at any range, so when automatic you plow through em
- AdamFrench

haha look at the dorks dorking out. ever touched a boob poindexter?

Ya and Crosby is better version of Bozak. See how silly your argument is.
- faceto27

you are terrible at this you know.

explain specifically what about kessel sets him apart from blake.

wedgie was the only one to provide an example

so his wrist shot is better and he isnt hated in the dressing room

so he is a better version of blake then? thats all i am taking from this.
- Dozzer

Kessel makes things happen. Blake didn't.

Kessel attacks the zone. Blake skated like a frightened deer, afraid to cross the blueline - which constantly put his teammates offside (not a problem with Kessel, because his current dogpoop linemates simply can't keep up with him).

Kessel can make passes. Blake never even attempted.

I'll grant you this - Kessel isn't taking it inside right now - something Blake never did. But it's probably the right thing to do - Kessel has absolutely no support, so the higher percentage play is going around the outside of a defender, and hoping to get a good shot off, than trying to split the defence. That just doesn't happen the NHL today.

Put another way: I'll start yelling at Kessel when he refuses to try to go inside on a 2-on-2. Right now, it's a 1-on-2. There's just no point.

thats fine for 5 on 5

but on PP? that not the issue and its more of the same.
- Dozzer

he's had a couple solid chances each game on the pp.
they need more puck movement, so they can tee him up....kessel is not going to 'drive to net' as you say-lucic he is not.

there is no way that goal should have been called back.

horrendous.
- big_dion

The puck was put in the net with a skate that was moving in a forward/kicking motion...It doesn't matter if the player wasn't trying to do so..

It's the rule and thats the reasoning the NHL off ice official gave to Scott Morrison last night..