Read much?



And don't reference wins. Please don't, it's ridiculous. Unless you think Andrew Raycroft as one of the best goalies the Leafs have ever had.
- prock

And 2007/2008?
Pretty sure from the start of this decade (2010) he ranks in the top 10 in every category.....maybe thats too small of a sample size? Perhaps we should revisit when he's 30 years old, in like 5 more seasons.

Bryz can be a pretty damn good goalie.
- prock

He's playing much better this time around...Thank god there's no Winter Classic this year...

They should have blown it up two years ago when they could have pulled in a huge haul for those two...
- Flyfreaky

They would still get a decent haul for them today...

Fair enough man, I don't really have a horse in this fight, but to me Price is top 10 in the league right now. I also feel Ward is top 10, though lately everyones making an argument that he isn't. I also like Fleury. To each their own I guess.
- mykokes

All three goalies are amazing. Fleury is an amazing goalie when his head is on straight. He's the weakest of the three because he can go off the tracks at times.

Ward and Price are both very solid technically and most of the time are mentally solid. Both goalies are easily in the top 10.

But you have to watch them play to know it which some people don't do.

In an entirely different era, where you can't make direct comparisons like that. Luongo was top 10, every year. Carey Price is nowhere near that.

Jose Theodore has nearly identical stats to Patrick Roy. Surely we aren't going to start to call Jose Theodore one of the best in history?
- prock

pre lockout there was clutch an grab, less PP's and less scoring.

If you're going to compare era's - Price is playing in an offense oriented area, while Luongo in Florida was more defensive (referring to the league overall).

Fleury is up there.
- prock

Agreed, probably the two most overrated.

Yep in a defensive 1st system....
- Fruitcakenipple

Like the one the Habs have been playing for the past 8 years?

Ahh, hyperbole.

That's the only way you can make your argument have any merit.
- prock

Your blind hatred of Price is obvious. If he was a Leaf, you would love him but because he plays for the Habs, you hate him without any sound reason or logic.

If it wasn't for Price in the opening game of the season, the Leafs would have won 8-0. And it's like that most nights.

pre lockout there was clutch an grab, less PP's and less scoring.

If you're going to compare era's - Price is playing in an offense oriented area, while Luongo in Florida was more defensive (referring to the league overall).
- Big_Lightnin

Well then, that must explain why save %s, on average, have gone significantly up since the last lockout, right?

Your blind hatred of Price is obvious. If he was a Leaf, you would love him but because he plays for the Habs, you hate him without any sound reason or logic.

If it wasn't for Price in the opening game of the season, the Leafs would have won 8-0. And it's like that most nights.
- Two_For_Truth

I don't hate him. He hasn't proven a damn thing to make him a top goalie in the NHL. Nothing.

The most overrated goaltender in the league is Cam Ward, has been for quite some time.
- ThePresident

Lol


Arguing with Prock...

Might as well try teaching math to your dog.

They should have blown it up two years ago when they could have pulled in a huge haul for those two...
- Flyfreaky

It's obvious to most people that they should have done it two years ago but now it has to be obvious to the Flames that they are dead in the water.

Kiprusoff to Washington or Tampa Bay and Iginla to Pittsburgh. Done.

And 2007/2008?
Pretty sure from the start of this decade (2010) he ranks in the top 10 in every category.....maybe thats too small of a sample size? Perhaps we should revisit when he's 30 years old, in like 5 more seasons.
- mykokes

A half season as a rookie. Not unusual. Unless you think Reimer is destined to be an elite NHL goalie too?

And revisiting in 5 years. Habs fans have been saying that for 5 years already. This Vezina winning goalie they keep predicting has never shown his face.

He has a violent and illogical hatred for Price.

All he needs to know is that he wears a Habs jersey and it's enough for him to blindly believe Price is worthless.
- Two_For_Truth

no, that only happens if he gets a leaf jersey

My top 5 goalies that I got to see play since starting to watch hockey in the 80s

1) Patrick Roy
2) Marty Brodeur
3) Dominik Hasek
4) Pelle Lindberg
5) Henrik Lundqvist
HM: Grant Fuhr as an Oiler and Belfour

Lol


Arguing with Prock...

Might as well try teaching math to your dog.
- robin_steele264

Next topic, Gagner.

You forgot a couple (in order).
- 1979AD

I'm not even sure what you mean by that. They're not in any order.

- Big_Lightnin

If you actually take a look at his numbers, they're not that impressive, he's certainly not a top 10 goaltender.

I don't hate him. He hasn't proven a damn thing to make him a top goalie in the NHL. Nothing.
- prock

You must have fallen asleep during the 2010/2011 season.

Or completely ignored it.

You must have fallen asleep during the 2010/2011 season.

Or completely ignored it.
- Two_For_Truth

Selective memory...

Lol


Arguing with Prock...

Might as well try teaching math to your dog.
- robin_steele264

If you actually take a look at his numbers, they're not that impressive, he's certainly not a top 10 goaltender.
- ThePresident

If you actually watched him play, you would realize that the numbers don't tell the whole story.

Well then, that must explain why save %s, on average, have gone significantly up since the last lockout, right?
- prock

except that they haven't, so...

Next topic, Gagner.
- Two_For_Truth

Gagners 9 points in 8 games look terrible once you take 8 points away.