Just let them take the steroids, it levels the playing field if they are all on the poop, plus it's entertaining as (frank).
- Leafland

meh. i guess it would be better than how it is now, but its moraly wrong. I don't think it's a good message to give to kids. Sports should be promoting a healthy lifestyle

Just let them take the steroids, it levels the playing field if they are all on the poop, plus it's entertaining as (frank).
- Leafland

Lawyers around the world are rubbing their hands together while salivating at the thought of pro sports sanctioning the use of PEDs.

Every pro athlete that ever encountered a health issue after they stopped playing would sue the league "I had to shoot deer antler spray up my pooper to be able to compete and make a living, now I have prostate cancer, so the league owes me 150 million dollars for pain and suffering."

Unless any of us has a doctorate in hockey, all of our opinions - as fans - are equally valuable when based on fact.
- 1979AD

NO man, that is wrong. And please don't take this as me trying to say I am the smartest, Some people are very informed and understand the game from a players point of view, a statistical, historical, game theory and analytical point of view, others just watch highlights, parrot Steve Simmons and act like they would die before changing their minds or listening to someone who knows more.

I guess you could be right, if people bothered with facts. Take the recent Phil Kessel scoring slump for example: he has probably been one of the best forwards in the league since the start of the year and yet through mostly nothing other than bad luck and hot goalies, he has nothing to show for it. Now look around and tell me if that is the common opinion because if its not, then I think I just proved my point.

The fact that 3 people reading this will agree with me while 100 will disagree, will only prove my point further.

You can't prove that player A lifted player B's stick to prevent a likely goal?
- 1979AD

If you have a replay of it, you can. But even then, two people watching the same video can see different things.

I always had this idea of having interesting people do the commentary.. Us hockey fans know who has the puck etc, so we don't need full on play by play.. Lets put Mike Myers and Jim Carey up in the booth. Id never miss a game..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Remember when the commentators for CBC went on strike during the CFL season? And they just showed the games with no sound?

I thought it would be interesting to bring in regular joes to do the commentary. Give them a little training, or maybe screen them in advance, but I think there are enough amateur football coaches or die-hards out there who are interesting enough to listen to.

Worst case scenario: you put the game on mute and turn on your local radio station if you don't like it.

ian white beat up chara.

i kid you not.
- big_dion

Yeah but ian white is half man half wild mountain man...

NO man, that is wrong. And please don't take this as me trying to say I am the smartest, Some people are very informed and understand the game from a players point of view, a statistical, historical, game theory and analytical point of view, others just watch highlights, parrot Steve Simmons and act like they would die before changing their minds or listening to someone who knows more.

I guess you could be right, if people bothered with facts. Take the recent Phil Kessel scoring slump for example: he has probably been one of the best forwards in the league since the start of the year and yet through mostly nothing other than bad luck and hot goalies, he has nothing to show for it. Now look around and tell me if that is the common opinion because if its not, then I think I just proved my point.

The fact that 3 people reading this will agree with me while 100 will disagree, will only prove my point further.
- Aquaman_2400

How do you know he's been one of the best players in the league? Unless you watch every team play, you can't make this argument.

He's been very good, undoubtedly, but how can you argue he's been one of the best players in the league?

Remember when the commentators for CBC went on strike during the CFL season? And they just showed the games with no sound?

I thought it would be interesting to bring in regular joes to do the commentary. Give them a little training, or maybe screen them in advance, but I think there are enough amateur football coaches or die-hards out there who are interesting enough to listen to.

Worst case scenario: you put the game on mute and turn on your local radio station if you don't like it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Only problem with that is the TV and radio broadcast are not in sync, it can become bothersome, lol.

well, facts need to be proveable, and the only things you can prove are on a stat-sheet- and we all know that some of the most valuable attributes a player can bring don't show up on stat-sheets.

Everything else is opinion based on observation.
- Feeling Glucky?[/quote\]

Dude, no offense, but this is why I have a hard time taking you seriously.
Facts need to be provable? First of all, provable is not a word. Secondly just by being a fact, something is already proven. Otherwise, its just an idea. However, I do get the gist of what your saying, but its still ridiculous. "Chara is a hard hitter" "Phaneuf has a hard shot" "Phil Kessel has played great" these are not idea. These are facts. You do not need statistics to prove them. You only need eyes, a brain, and a basic knowledge of hockey.

NO man, that is wrong. And please don't take this as me trying to say I am the smartest, Some people are very informed and understand the game from a players point of view, a statistical, historical, game theory and analytical point of view, others just watch highlights, parrot Steve Simmons and act like they would die before changing their minds or listening to someone who knows more.

I guess you could be right, if people bothered with facts. Take the recent Phil Kessel scoring slump for example: he has probably been one of the best forwards in the league since the start of the year and yet through mostly nothing other than bad luck and hot goalies, he has nothing to show for it. Now look around and tell me if that is the common opinion because if its not, then I think I just proved my point.

The fact that 3 people reading this will agree with me while 100 will disagree, will only prove my point further.
- Aquaman_2400

"No man, that is wrong..... because it just is". Touché! I'm pretty sure it's common opinion around here that Phil's been snakebit to start the season, getting lots of good chances, and once the dam breaks he'll be putting them up in bunches. Who thinks otherwise (UG notwithstanding)?

Lawyers around the world are rubbing their hands together while salivating at the thought of pro sports sanctioning the use of PEDs.

Every pro athlete that ever encountered a health issue after they stopped playing would sue the league "I had to shoot deer antler spray up my pooper to be able to compete and make a living, now I have prostate cancer, so the league owes me 150 million dollars for pain and suffering."
- 1979AD

Pretty easy to get around all of that.. Make a universal contract that all pro athletes have to sign saying they know the risks of playing the sport and will under no circumstances use any PEDs..

well, facts need to be proveable, and the only things you can prove are on a stat-sheet- and we all know that some of the most valuable attributes a player can bring don't show up on stat-sheets.

Everything else is opinion based on observation.
- Feeling Glucky?

I should definatley make this my location.

If you have a replay of it, you can. But even then, two people watching the same video can see different things.
- Feeling Glucky?

Which is why two people can have two different opinions, both valid.

Remember when the commentators for CBC went on strike during the CFL season? And they just showed the games with no sound?

I thought it would be interesting to bring in regular joes to do the commentary. Give them a little training, or maybe screen them in advance, but I think there are enough amateur football coaches or die-hards out there who are interesting enough to listen to.

Worst case scenario: you put the game on mute and turn on your local radio station if you don't like it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Did that happen in the NHL as well?
or maybe the sound gave out / not working
it did not last long

Pretty easy to get around all of that.. Make a universal contract that all pro athletes have to sign saying they know the risks of playing the sport and will under no circumstances use any PEDs..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Yeah... the lawyers would like that even more.

Whatever muddies the waters.

Remember when the commentators for CBC went on strike during the CFL season? And they just showed the games with no sound?

I thought it would be interesting to bring in regular joes to do the commentary. Give them a little training, or maybe screen them in advance, but I think there are enough amateur football coaches or die-hards out there who are interesting enough to listen to.

Worst case scenario: you put the game on mute and turn on your local radio station if you don't like it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Yea we used to do that at my buddys house in Powassan when the game was on RDS, didn't always work tho.. Now with pvr's it should be easy enough to sync the sound.

I should definatley make this my location.
- Aquaman_2400

You really should. Maybe seeing it everytime you post will help it sink in.

If you have a replay of it, you can. But even then, two people watching the same video can see different things.
- Feeling Glucky?

I feel that know would be a good time to point out that the first step of the Scientific Method is Observation.

Pretty easy to get around all of that.. Make a universal contract that all pro athletes have to sign saying they know the risks of playing the sport and will under no circumstances use any PEDs..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

My client was coerced into signing this contract/waiver, because he's been playing this sport his entire life, it's his only way he knows to make a living, and once PEDs were sanctioned, he had no choice but to sign.

Yeah but ian white is half man half wild mountain man...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

The "white knight"

"No man, that is wrong..... because it just is". Touché! I'm pretty sure it's common opinion around here that Phil's been snakebit to start the season, getting lots of good chances, and once the dam breaks he'll be putting them up in bunches. Who thinks otherwise (UG notwithstanding)?
- 1979AD

it's just a matter of time and when it does .. I'd better have him the in HBHL.

Remember when the commentators for CBC went on strike during the CFL season? And they just showed the games with no sound?

I thought it would be interesting to bring in regular joes to do the commentary. Give them a little training, or maybe screen them in advance, but I think there are enough amateur football coaches or die-hards out there who are interesting enough to listen to.

Worst case scenario: you put the game on mute and turn on your local radio station if you don't like it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

If anyone has a problem with the mainstream CBC HNIC personalities, you're well within your rights to switch to the Punjabi audio feed. I do and find them to be very knowledgeable and impartial observers.

You really should. Maybe seeing it everytime you post will help it sink in.
- Feeling Glucky?

So even with a complete and utter check mate, you will not step back and admit you were wrong? Thanks for ironically proving my point about opinions not being equal.

If anyone has a problem with the mainstream CBC HNIC personalities, you're well within your rights to switch to the Punjabi audio feed. I do and find them to be very knowledgeable and impartial observers.
- 1979AD

My Punjabi is a little rusty.

Which is why two people can have two different opinions, both valid.
- 1979AD

But it's possible that neither is based in fact. What you see very often has to do with what you want to see. You bring your bias into everything, whether you want to or not. And on top of that, our brains are awful at creating accurate memories.

Two people can watch the same video, have two completely different opinions of what happened, and they can both be extremely wrong.