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VanIsle Canuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc
#Canucks' Alexandre Burrows on #Blackhawks: "That's a team we dislike a lot."

Feeling's mutual.

- philco28


Really? That's news to Canucks fans...
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc
#Canucks' Alexandre Burrows on #Blackhawks: "That's a team we dislike a lot."

Feeling's mutual.

- philco28


FU Burrows. My gawd that guy is a clown. The funny thing is that it was Burrows that started this whole BS thing with the hair pulling incident in 09. Since that wonderful 4th grade style fight its been down hill. Glad he still likes to run his mouth.. Hey Alex..meet Mr. Andrew Shaw.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Feb 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
Glad to see that the Sharks are getting all the love. Better for Hawks to maybe get a chip on their shoulder. I do find it funny how everyone sings the praises of Sharks. Team is older and slower and will struggle versus Hawks....again.

Vancouver has bigger problems then chasing Keith around. When Andrew Ebbet and Dale Weiss are regular second liners...then lets be real about depth etc...Regardless of injuries.

- TrueGrit


2-2 last year between Sharks and Hawks seems like not a struggle.

Disagree on slow. Especially in their top six. Absent of injuries... Like they fell victim last year... They are a very well constructed team. AND Burns hasn't played a game yet.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Feb 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd rather see:

Sharp/Toews/Hossa
Saad/Bolland/Kane
Bickel/Shaw/Stalberg
Bollig/Kruger/Frolik

Sharp would probably jump start the first line, and perhaps Kane's "magic" with the puck would help get Saad on the scoresheet. I don't think we break up our 3rd line as they've been playing very well so far, so if it's not broke, don't fix it! 4th line also clicking pretty well with some size, speed, and grit. Bollig isn't perfect obviously, but he's an upgrade over Scott or anything we've had there in a while, with all due respect to Mayers...

- nelli312


agree the first change to make.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Feb 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
Really?

Because it doesn't say anything about that when you look up "soft" in the dictionary...

- VanIsle Canuck


Your opinion matters nothing because of your member pic.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Feb 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'd put Kane with someone who can finish. Keep Kane with Sharp or Hossa.
- RickyBear


Keep stick on the ice and anyone can finish with Kane giving them the puck
VanIsle Canuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
Your opinion matters nothing because of your member pic.
- nickmo2699


That's too bad, I was hoping we would all gradually learn to be friends.

With that stinging barb, I'll slither back to the Canucks board.

Good luck. Here's hoping for a good hockey game and no injuries to either team
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 1 @ 2:50 PM ET

1. Our, as in the team from Our city that We cheer for. It shouldn't be too difficult to understand so i'll just give you a bit more time to process it.

2. Classy, as in donate time and plenty of money to various charities. I don't think he's ever had a major penalty in his career.

3. Of course it's diving, nobody would ever be guilty of an infraction of a top scorer in the league.

4. He has more goals than Kane or Toews, but maybe you didn't know that. It's gonna be hard to give all the credit to the Sedins seeing as how he has more points than Henrik. Yup, 1st line player.

5. Coming from the team that dressed John Scott in the playoffs?
- golfingsince

Spot on
- vancity787


From most accounts they are relatively classy though a lot of NHL players do charity work and the Hawk organIzation is big on this as well.

I do think you could define Hank's comments after ousting the Hawks in game 7 as less than charitable. Yes you beat them but I'm not sure it's classy to discount your opponent so by saying the Hawks were never really in it (don't remember exactly but it was something to that effect) when it took OT in the 7th game to get the job done.

Btw, I'm sure your aware diving is still only a minor penalty; so until they change the rule I'd say their record of no majors is pretty safe.

TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
2-2 last year between Sharks and Hawks seems like not a struggle.

Disagree on slow. Especially in their top six. Absent of injuries... Like they fell victim last year... They are a very well constructed team. AND Burns hasn't played a game yet.

- fattybeef



You will see, Hawks will outshoot them 35 18 next week and win. Plus, regardless of how well constructed, this team has underachieved for the last 6 years, which suggests they are over rated. Right now they are playing good hockey, but we will see how they deal with Hawks speed Tuesday.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
I'd rather see:

Sharp/Toews/Hossa
Saad/Bolland/Kane
Bickel/Shaw/Stalberg
Bollig/Kruger/Frolik

Sharp would probably jump start the first line, and perhaps Kane's "magic" with the puck would help get Saad on the scoresheet. I don't think we break up our 3rd line as they've been playing very well so far, so if it's not broke, don't fix it! 4th line also clicking pretty well with some size, speed, and grit. Bollig isn't perfect obviously, but he's an upgrade over Scott or anything we've had there in a while, with all due respect to Mayers...

- nelli312

Agree with both suggestions
I would juggle a bit the next two games

Nothing ventured nothing gained
PopCanBong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.22.2013

Feb 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
1) Better player than Scott, which isn't saying much. But can skate a shift 5 on 5 without killing you—hits people, and he has a very, very good wrist shot
2) More of a heavyweight than a super-heavyweight (like Scott or Boogard)
3) Cement jaw—will take another guys' best and just laugh
4) Fierce fighter, fears no one, has been trained as a boxer, and has power in both hands. Some tape I posted yesterday of a fight with MATT Kassian, where Kassian throws way more, has a low connect percentage, Bollig waits him out a la Probert, then starts hitting him with bombs. It's a credit to Kassian that his head didn't pop off. Bollig also almost tore Tootoo's ear off last year with a left hand.

- John Jaeckel


I'll have to check him out, sounds like i would appreciate him - anyone the rips Tootoo a new one sounds like a decent guy...
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
So if my francais serves me, they're talking Bickell for Eller but Bergy wants Stalberg too (?).

I can see Bickell plus a prospect. Doubt they would do Bickell plus Stalberg.

- John Jaeckel


Actually, they're talking about Bickell for Eller + Yannick Weber, or Stalberg for Eller...weird that they value Bickell more, but like I said the site has a poor track record.

You gotta think there have been discussions with Bergevin though. I personally like Eller as a player alot and I think he's got some good untapped potential...just not sure there's room for him in the lineup as the Hawks would need some more grit instead.

That said, if the Hawks coudl snag him for a pick, it would be golden.

For those saying MTL wouldn't trade him for such a return, I can tell you that he's currently in the doghouse with Therrien and has been a bit fo a disappointment so far in MTL, but it's a city historically low on patience with youngsters.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
1. Our, as in the team from Our city that We cheer for. It shouldn't be too difficult to understand so i'll just give you a bit more time to process it.

2. Classy, as in donate time and plenty of money to various charities. I don't think he's ever had a major penalty in his career.

3. Of course it's diving, nobody would ever be guilty of an infraction of a top scorer in the league.

4. He has more goals than Kane or Toews, but maybe you didn't know that. It's gonna be hard to give all the credit to the Sedins seeing as how he has more points than Henrik. Yup, 1st line player.

5. Coming from the team that dressed John Scott in the playoffs?
- golfingsince



From most accounts they are relatively classy though a lot of NHL players do charity work and the Hawk organIzation is big on this as well.

I do think you could define Hank's comments after ousting the Hawks in game 7 as less than charitable. Yes you beat them but I'm not sure it's classy to discount your opponent so by saying the Hawks were never really in it (don't remember exactly but it was something to that effect) when it took OT in the 7th game to get the job done.

Btw, I'm sure your aware diving is still only a minor penalty; so until they change the rule I'd say their record of no majors is pretty safe.


- HawkintheD


All too funny
Outside Vancouver
Survey says
Canucks are the most unpopular team in the League
The reasons are many
Heck I am a Canadian and I would cheer for the Russians ahead of them
Unless it was an Olympic Diving event in which case they receive 9.8's across the board and present the Sedins and Burrows with Gold!

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
FU Burrows. My gawd that guy is a clown. The funny thing is that it was Burrows that started this whole BS thing with the hair pulling incident in 09. Since that wonderful 4th grade style fight its been down hill. Glad he still likes to run his mouth.. Hey Alex..meet Mr. Andrew Shaw.
- z1990z




At least we know this rivalry isn't dead, it's just been so long that some of us have lost the passion for it but it won't take too long for that to come back.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
Actually, they're talking about Bickell for Eller + Yannick Weber, or Stalberg for Eller...weird that they value Bickell more, but like I said the site has a poor track record.

You gotta think there have been discussions with Bergevin though. I personally like Eller as a player alot and I think he's got some good untapped potential...just not sure there's room for him in the lineup as the Hawks would need some more grit instead.

That said, if the Hawks coudl snag him for a pick, it would be golden.

For those saying MTL wouldn't trade him for such a return, I can tell you that he's currently in the doghouse with Therrien and has been a bit fo a disappointment so far in MTL, but it's a city historically low on patience with youngsters.

- andru2797


I don't know Eller but I love Stalberg and with his speed we need him
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
1. Our, as in the team from Our city that We cheer for. It shouldn't be too difficult to understand so i'll just give you a bit more time to process it.

2. Classy, as in donate time and plenty of money to various charities. I don't think he's ever had a major penalty in his career.

3. Of course it's diving, nobody would ever be guilty of an infraction of a top scorer in the league.

4. He has more goals than Kane or Toews, but maybe you didn't know that. It's gonna be hard to give all the credit to the Sedins seeing as how he has more points than Henrik. Yup, 1st line player.

5. Coming from the team that dressed John Scott in the playoffs?
- golfingsince



From most accounts they are relatively classy though a lot of NHL players do charity work and the Hawk organIzation is big on this as well.

I do think you could define Hank's comments after ousting the Hawks in game 7 as less than charitable. Yes you beat them but I'm not sure it's classy to discount your opponent so by saying the Hawks were never really in it (don't remember exactly but it was something to that effect) when it took OT in the 7th game to get the job done.

Btw, I'm sure your aware diving is still only a minor penalty; so until they change the rule I'd say their record of no majors is pretty safe.


- HawkintheD



The 'classy' argument is amusing to me. One side (Carcillo's season ending hit from behind last season, Keith on Sedin, Burish calling Pronger an idiot and saying he'd punch him... After already winning the cup) vs the other side (sedin's comments after they won the series, bieksa's hair pulling, city wide riots, and that dude that fueled the kieth hit). Neither is classy.... At least in Philly we are under no delusion of being class acts
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Sadly I think the Hawks will win this game in regulation by a couple of goals unless Luongo stands on his head or if the Hawks take too many penalties. 5 on 5, the Hawks have a solid advantage.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
All too funny
Outside Vancouver
Survey says
Canucks are the most unpopular team in the League
The reasons are many
Heck I am a Canadian and I would cheer for the Russians ahead of them
Unless it was an Olympic Diving event in which case they receive 9.8's across the board and present the Sedins and Burrows with Gold!

- PEIHawkFan





It would be a close contest but they would edge out the Italian soccer team to bring home the gold!
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 1 @ 3:08 PM ET


It would be a close contest but they would edge out the Italian soccer team to bring home the gold!

- HawkintheD


Good one


I laughed out loud at this.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Wow, you guys should have a super easy time tonight. Oh well, maybe next season for the canucks.
SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
>Recent trends Hawks need to improve:
>Solving the 2-man forecheck -- look for Canucks to start with it
Hawks need much better 5-man spacing to create better breakouts
>Shift length and line changes
Lines have been changing less and less as a unit with some players floating
around looking for a cherrypick, then getting caught playing D with 1/2 of the
other next line -- the rhythm of rolling four lines only works when ALL players
buy into it
>Faceoffs -- yes, Toews is always very good -- but
Other centers lose too many draws too cleanly
Hawk forwards are losing too many puck battles right off the draw
>Net Presence -- needs to be a priority
Goalies seeing Hawk shots far too easily these last few games
Need to actually block the goalie's view, not just stand in front of the net
>Hawks will play a solid game if they improve in these areas

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
All too funny
Outside Vancouver
Survey says
Canucks are the most unpopular team in the League
The reasons are many
Heck I am a Canadian and I would cheer for the Russians ahead of them
Unless it was an Olympic Diving event in which case they receive 9.8's across the board and present the Sedins and Burrows with Gold!

- PEIHawkFan


Yeah, but you are from PEI. Who gives a (frank) what you think.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:11 PM ET


At least we know this rivalry isn't dead, it's just been so long that some of us have lost the passion for it but it won't take too long for that to come back.

- Nucker101


Should be good; can't wait for the puck to drop tonight. I think the ESPN sight said it was the best rivalry in hockey. I may be biased but definitely agree. It used to be the Wings and before them the Blues and North Stars. Now? Definitely the Canucks!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
Wow, you guys should have a super easy time tonight. Oh well, maybe next season for the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito


Hey! I'm a Cubs fan; that's our mantra!
PopCanBong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.22.2013

Feb 1 @ 3:23 PM ET
FU Burrows. My gawd that guy is a clown. The funny thing is that it was Burrows that started this whole BS thing with the hair pulling incident in 09. Since that wonderful 4th grade style fight its been down hill. Glad he still likes to run his mouth.. Hey Alex..meet Mr. Andrew Shaw.
- z1990z


Pulling hair by itself is a bit weak I'll give you that much no problem, but if the guys is fish hooking you at the time i'd let go, after all it is a fight.

Speaking of fighting, how many has Bolland been in. He sure likes the cheap shyte, likes to pic on the Sedins and run his mouth about how soft they are...who oddly, last time i checked had the same amount of fighting majors.

Bolland must be soft...or scared, probobaly both.


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