I never cited wikipedia... and weren't you comparing Schneider's value now to what Lu's value was when he was traded?
- nucks_94

Apologies - it was rune with the wikifacts. Schneider specifically wasn't part of it. It was to support the argument that goalies, in general, don't get very high returns in trades.

Gillis is not stupid enough to have 9.3 Mil one spot tied up.

- VANTEL

The problem with this is that he does have 9.3 mil tied up in one spot. So, does that make him stupid, or you delusional?

Im just curious.

Thanks Ian


#$$@%^#$^&&^%$&&$ idiot
- VANTEL

And mosquitoes the size of (frank)ing baseballs.
- nucks_94

Sasketchewanian for hat

Beware of Oilers superfan SaskOil.

Guy goes nuts if you make any disparaging comments about the province of Saskatchewan.

You know, not that I would ever knowingly do that just to see him blow a gasket...
- Atomic Wedgie

those comments are worth at least 2 angries!

The problem with this is that he does have 9.3 mil tied up in one spot. So, does that make him stupid, or you delusional?

Im just curious.
- Gunslinger

So Gillis should probably just bend over and take it from whatever any GM in the league is willing to give to him? Would that make him stupid?

those comments are worth at least 2 angries!
- saskoil21

Growing up in Sasketchewan, I remember the time my dog ran away.

For three days, I watched him from my bedroom window.

So Gillis should probably just bend over and take it from whatever any GM in the league is willing to give to him? Would that make him stupid?
- nucks_94

Its the west end thing to do... not stupid but popular...

So Gillis should probably just bend over and take it from whatever any GM in the league is willing to give to him? Would that make him stupid?
- nucks_94

I just pointed out the facts. Like the fact he does have 9.3 tied up in one position, contrary to what wantel said. What he does is up to him, but the cap is going down soon so he better decide in the next few months.

So Gillis should probably just bend over and take it from whatever any GM in the league is willing to give to him? Would that make him stupid?
- nucks_94

No he does have it right... No one wants Lu for his price tag... Try for the cup again...when that fails buy him out and then Lu can get his wish of going to FLA...

Growing up in Sasketchewan, I remember the time my dog ran away.

For three days, I watched him from my bedroom window.
- Atomic Wedgie

Were you living in the extreme south of Sasky? 3 days is a long time...

No he does have it right... No one wants Lu for his price tag... Try for the cup again...when that fails buy him out and then Lu can get his wish of going to FLA...
- saskoil21

Buy him out???? seriously if your ownership is that stupid with their money, they deserve to be bridesmaids...

So Gillis should probably just bend over and take it from whatever any GM in the league is willing to give to him? Would that make him stupid?
- nucks_94

It's not about bending over, though.

It's about being realistic.

Luongo is great. He'll probably be a super-duper goalie for the next 5 years. But his contract goees for 10 - you can't look at his output today and only use that to assess his value.

Scheider: a whole lot of potential. But it's still just that.

And then you have to factor in that goalies simply do not fetch a lot on the trade market (one exception noted above).

Hey, good problem to have: I'd rather have too much talent than not enough.

But it seems Gillis is wanting to hit a home run here. I think something between a bunt and a double is more realistic.

No he does have it right... No one wants Lu for his price tag... Try for the cup again...when that fails buy him out and then Lu can get his wish of going to FLA...
- saskoil21

No way in heck he gets bought out.

Why would they do that when they can put him on the waiver wire?

The dude has value.

Just not as much as Gillis thinks at the moment.

No way in heck he gets bought out.

Why would they do that when they can put him on the waiver wire?

The dude has value.

Just not as much as Gillis thinks at the moment.
- Atomic Wedgie

True... Either way though someone is getting Lu for half price or less... and does not have to trade anything to get him! NYI is the likely destination... where he began... if you consider waiver wire

It's not about bending over, though.

It's about being realistic.

Luongo is great. He'll probably be a super-duper goalie for the next 5 years. But his contract goees for 10 - you can't look at his output today and only use that to assess his value.

Scheider: a whole lot of potential. But it's still just that.

And then you have to factor in that goalies simply do not fetch a lot on the trade market (one exception noted above).

Hey, good problem to have: I'd rather have too much talent than not enough.

But it seems Gillis is wanting to hit a home run here. I think something between a bunt and a double is more realistic.
- Atomic Wedgie

We'll see. Gillis is pretty stubborn. Eventually, he's gotta do something though, I agree.

True... Either way though someone is getting Lu for half price or less... and does not have to trade anything to get him! NYI is the likely destination... where he began... if you consider waiver wire
- saskoil21

This is false. If Gillis can literally get NOTHING for Lu, then he trades Schneider.

We'll see. Gillis is pretty stubborn. Eventually, he's gotta do something though, I agree.
- nucks_94

Well, I guess at the end of the day, there really isn't a time where Gillis is under more/less pressure to deal either goalie leading up to next season. Why not ride out this season and deal with the pressure over the summer? Only hope there, is that both have had good enough seasons by the end to maintain any trade value they originally had, and you can shop for the deal that best suits your team in the future.

Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell
From a venture capitalist: "For a solid business, I could raise $100 million in a week. For the Coyotes, it would take four generations."

Sounds about right...

This is false. If Gillis can literally get NOTHING for Lu, then he trades Schneider.
- nucks_94

And asks for what? We end up in the same situation as last summer when other GMs expect that Gillis will have to move at least one of them...

Sasketchewanian for hat


- 1970vintage

Hey Vintage, how am I doing so far?

Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell
From a venture capitalist: "For a solid business, I could raise $100 million in a week. For the Coyotes, it would take four generations."

Sounds about right...
- AlexF

I would absolutely love to see the business plan they present to potential investors.

"So, we think that in the next six months, we can raise ticket prices by 2800%, and that will spur on Coyotes fans to increase their ticket buying by 330%. "

"And will the Coyotes then be profitable?"

"No, but if we also manage to find oil beneath centre ice..."

Wow ten pages worth already...rock star!

Well, I guess at the end of the day, there really isn't a time where Gillis is under more/less pressure to deal either goalie leading up to next season. Why not ride out this season and deal with the pressure over the summer? Only hope there, is that both have had good enough seasons by the end to maintain any trade value they originally had, and you can shop for the deal that best suits your team in the future.
- p_zub

Agreed. The pressure will come this summer, not this season. I just wish the media would stop talking about it every time one or the other goalie has a good game. They'll be in a rotation until one gets traded, period.

Wow ten pages worth already...rock star!
- LeftCoaster

Now we all can see why the CBC caters so much to the Leafs fan base for HNIC...