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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 31 @ 4:08 PM ET
Simmonds can't even make space for himself, which is why he scores when the puck goes off his face or accidentially deflects off of him. You dont see Boyle on a line with Nash and Gaborik. Simmonds had a good year last year, and yeah time will tell if this line will build chemistry
- Trainfellow


Boyle to Simmonds is a poor comparison.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:09 PM ET
Simmonds can't even make space for himself, which is why he scores when the puck goes off his face or accidentially deflects off of him. You dont see Boyle on a line with Nash and Gaborik. Simmonds had a good year last year, and yeah time will tell if this line will build chemistry
- Trainfellow

You're seriously comparing Simmonds to Boyle?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:11 PM ET
Not saying it wont, but I personally think Simmonds is overrated and shouldnt be playing on the top line.. Yes he plays a similar game as Hartnell (front of net, physical in your face type) but has nothing for a shot and Hartnell can snipe when given the chance. Simmonds tries too often to force the puck and just ends up turning it over, which is why he shouldnt be on the top line
- Trainfellow



Simmonds isn't overrated. And Simmonds is there because Hartnell is hurt. Simmonds has a lot of good qualities to his game. Next to Hartnell, Simmonds is the best Power Forward on the team. Which is the type of player they're looking for to fill in there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:14 PM ET
Simmonds can't even make space for himself, which is why he scores when the puck goes off his face or accidentially deflects off of him. You dont see Boyle on a line with Nash and Gaborik. Simmonds had a good year last year, and yeah time will tell if this line will build chemistry
- Trainfellow



How does a player who goes hard to the net and the corners make space for himself? There's no such thing. Those are the high traffic areas on the ice. You don't see Boyle on a line with Nash and Gaborik because they also have Richards. I'm quite sure that if the Flyers had a player of that caliber healthy and on the roster, they'd try him with Giroux. Although of course both Richards and Giroux are centers. And Simmonds is a better player then Boyle.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:17 PM ET
I was a big proponent of Sestito most of the year ... but the guy was so invisible last game I've changed my mind.

I'd rather see McGinn and Rinaldo in there on most nights, and let Sestito and Shelley see the odd game against Boston.

- FlyerGuy


Yeah, much more enjoyable seeing Speedbag Sestito getting his ass handed to him by Lucic than guys from the Rangers.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yeah, much more enjoyable seeing Speedbag Sestito getting his ass handed to him by Lucic than guys from the Rangers.
- Jsaquella

haha, he would get his butt kicked for sure ... but he also had a very solid game against them last year. I think his size could be very useful against the B's.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
haha, he would get his butt kicked for sure ... but he also had a very solid game against them last year. I think his size could be very useful against the B's.
- FlyerGuy


He's not an awful player, and he skates well for such a big man. I just always get a sense of impending doom when he's out.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:40 PM ET
why do i hate wing bowl so much?
- hammarby31

Because it's insipid?

Because the real women have been replaced by girls from Show & Tell?

Joey Chesnut, Kobyashi, the Black Widow?

Angelo and Rhea?

Need I go on...?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:41 PM ET
knowing upcoming humidity levels helps him control the frizz
- Don'tForgetTocchet

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
Because it's insipid?

Because the real women have been replaced by girls from Show & Tell?

Joey Chesnut, Kobyashi, the Black Widow?

Angelo and Rhea?

Need I go on...?

- mayorofangrytown




never been. never will. don't care. the whole thing just infuriates me, although i have no problem with girls from S & T.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:59 PM ET


never been. never will. don't care. the whole thing just infuriates me, although i have no problem with girls from S & T.

- hammarby31


Honestly, it's kind of an embarrassment. I hate that Bernie is a part of it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 31 @ 5:05 PM ET
Because it's insipid?

Because the real women have been replaced by girls from Show & Tell?

Joey Chesnut, Kobyashi, the Black Widow?

Angelo and Rhea?

Need I go on...?

- mayorofangrytown

Or maybe it's that there are a lot of people who will feign excitement for all this (at stupidly early hours) when all they really care about is drinking in a parking lot. poop, all they need to do is start feeding the chickens Gatorade and we're playing out a sequel to Idiocracy.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:07 PM ET
Honestly, it's kind of an embarrassment. I hate that Bernie is a part of it.
- Jsaquella


kind of? it's pure embarrassment. making a spectacle and rewarding a bunch of slobs shoving 200+ wings down their throats as quickly as possible. i can only imagine the crowd. angelo is a (frank)ing dolt.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
kind of? it's pure embarrassment. making a spectacle and rewarding a bunch of slobs shoving 200+ wings down their throats as quickly as possible. i can only imagine the crowd. angelo is a (frank)ing dolt.
- hammarby31


Agreed.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
Here's a great quote from a Mike Heika piece about the struggling Stars

"Remaining positive in a negative situation isn't naive, it's leadership"

That needs to be the Flyers mantra until things turn around
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Here's a great quote from a Mike Heika piece about the struggling Stars

"Remaining positive in a negative situation isn't naive, it's leadership"

That needs to be the Flyers mantra until things turn around

- Jsaquella

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 6:26 PM ET
Have fired Stevens yet and traded Carter and Carle yet?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 31 @ 6:29 PM ET
Simmonds isn't overrated. And Simmonds is there because Hartnell is hurt. Simmonds has a lot of good qualities to his game. Next to Hartnell, Simmonds is the best Power Forward on the team. Which is the type of player they're looking for to fill in there.
- MJL

Next to hartnell simmonds is the only other pwr fwd
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 31 @ 6:32 PM ET
You're seriously comparing Simmonds to Boyle?
- FlyerGuy

I love simmonds
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:46 PM ET
You're seriously comparing Simmonds to Boyle?
- FlyerGuy


Would it be the craziest thing said on here?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 31 @ 6:48 PM ET
Next to hartnell simmonds is the only other pwr fwd
- Flyersgod


And I guess Knuble used to be. Hopefully Couturier develops some of that characteristic himself.


But...other than that...
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 6:50 PM ET

"This one time during sex Icalled Lois Frank, your move Sherlock."
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 7:03 PM ET
And I guess Knuble used to be. Hopefully Couturier develops some of that characteristic himself.


But...other than that...

- MBFlyerfan


At least Knuble can park his ass in front of the net.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 7:11 PM ET
Would it be the craziest thing said on here?
- ob18

Craziest? No. Bad comparison? Definitely.

His point was that because you don't see Boyle on the Rangers top line that Simmonds likewise doesn't belong on the Flyers top line.

Boyle isn't garbage, but Simmonds is clearly the better player at this point in their respective careers.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
Thoughts on these lines?

•Sam Carchidi via twitter: Flyers lines: Briere-G-Simmonds; Read-Couts-Knuble; McGinn-Schenn-Vor; Fed-Talb-Rinaldo.

- FlyersGrace

Love that top line.

Hopefully something good will come out of a shakeup
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