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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
Ron Jeremy's in the hospital with an aneurysm.

Pray for the Hedgehog

- Jsaquella


He will be back in action before Meszaros. Lock it up.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
basically its when the shoulder dislocates... without fully dislocating. It slips out a bit but slides right back in.. can be rather painful, but relatively damage free. It can often be reoccurring as well though.
- jak521


yeah, but was does. dr. recchi say about it?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
Anything with Newman is good.
- canadianpenfan



My favorite Newman moment

http://youtu.be/tBz3PqA2Fmc
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
yeah, but was does. dr. recchi say about it?
- hammarby31

He says that its the coaches fault.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
basically its when the shoulder dislocates... without fully dislocating. It slips out a bit but slides right back in.. can be rather painful, but relatively damage free. It can often be reoccurring as well though.
- jak521


Yep. Jacoby Ellsbury from the Red Sox had a sublaxed shoulder and missed like 3.5 months.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Ron Jeremy's in the hospital with an aneurysm.

Pray for the Hedgehog

- Jsaquella




He's had a good run.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Ron Jeremy's in the hospital with an aneurysm.

Pray for the Hedgehog

- Jsaquella

you know your porn stars, sir.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:04 PM ET
My favorite Newman moment

http://youtu.be/tBz3PqA2Fmc

- Jsaquella


that's a classic. this is one of mine, in court with kramer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFIXy3u4WQ
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:04 PM ET
basically its when the shoulder dislocates... without fully dislocating. It slips out a bit but slides right back in.. can be rather painful, but relatively damage free. It can often be reoccurring as well though.

EDIT: Totally read that as What is a partial dislocation...

- jak521

Also, if there is something known as a bony Bankart lesion (basically a piece of the glenoid chips off) that could be a reason for the subluxation.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 30 @ 4:05 PM ET
Yep. Jacoby Ellsbury from the Red Sox had a sublaxed shoulder and missed like 3.5 months.
- PLindbergh31


Are there varying degrees though? I would assume it's possible. Ellsbury's could be worse than Callahan's right?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yep. Jacoby Ellsbury from the Red Sox had a sublaxed shoulder and missed like 3.5 months.
- PLindbergh31

I just commented again... Basketball players sublux all the time and play within a few days. They actually have braces that help support the shoulder. Typically, if there is no Bankart, these are treated with pretty intense PT. Can be anywya.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
Are there varying degrees though? I would assume it's possible. Ellsbury's could be worse than Callahan's right?
- NickTheKid87

Absolutely.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
He's had a good run.
- canadianpenfan

indeed, especially considering the weight gain ... the career would have been over in the seventies had he been a woman.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
and the truck fire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg3DB1lnpq0
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
Are there varying degrees though? I would assume it's possible. Ellsbury's could be worse than Callahan's right?
- NickTheKid87


Jak would know better than I. I believe there are varying degrees. 10-14 days seems like a very aggressive time frame.

What exactly was the diagnosis with Meszaros' shoulder?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
that's a classic. this is one of mine, in court with kramer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFIXy3u4WQ

- hammarby31






I like when he was deciding whether Elaine or Kramer should get the bike.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
He says that its the coaches fault.
- jak521


clearly.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:08 PM ET
Jak would know better than I. I believe there are varying degrees. 10-14 days seems like a very aggressive time frame.

What exactly was the diagnosis with Meszaros' shoulder?

- PLindbergh31

Meszy has (in my educated guess, because they are so (frank)ing vague) a deltoid tear... likely at the attachment. Easily misdiagnosed as a shoulder separation early on.

EDIT:
I actually wouldnt be surprised if he meant 2-10 days.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 30 @ 4:09 PM ET
that's a classic. this is one of mine, in court with kramer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFIXy3u4WQ

- hammarby31


Whaddya mean "My own words"? Whose words they gonna be?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 30 @ 4:09 PM ET
A Penguin fan just called another Penguin fan a jerkface.

I'm staying here.

- canadianpenfan

Yep, "numbnuts" and "jerkface" are having at it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Meszy has (in my educated guess, because they are so (frank)ing vague) a deltoid tear... likely at the attachment. Easily misdiagnosed as a shoulder separation early on.
- jak521


Yikes. Do deltoid tears usually require surgery? Is it realistic that Meszaros could rehab it to where he could build up enough strength to play in 4 weeks? I'm skeptical.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Yep, "numbnuts" and "jerkface" are having at it.
- mayorofangrytown



Well numbnuts is a numbnuts, but jerkface shouldn't have called him that.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
A Penguin fan just called another Penguin fan a jerkface.

I'm staying here.

- canadianpenfan


Understandable.

Although in fairness, the guy was probably right.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
Yikes. Do deltoid tears usually require surgery? Is it realistic that Meszaros could rehab it to where he could build up enough strength to play in 4 weeks? I'm skeptical.
- PLindbergh31

I personally had a grade 2 separation and deltoid tear at the attachment. I was back to normal in about 6 weeks, but was playing in 3. All depends. You will have considerable weakness early on.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
I personally had a grade 2 separation and deltoid tear at the attachment. I was back to normal in about 6 weeks, but was playing in 3. All depends. You will have considerable weakness early on.
- jak521


Gotcha. Not sure if it's the same shoulder that Meszaros had the labrum surgery, if it is, that would have to be a factor I would think.
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