nope still not going to happen.
- munky123

Ok thanks

nope still not going to happen.
- munky123

You'd be surprised at what a cash strapped franchise would do...There was this guy pocklington here in the late 80's who lost money not cause his team was bad but cuz he was a dumbass. If Phoenix still isn't making money they aren't going to want to take on any contract of size or someone who will get paid a ton off there rookie deal. Don Malohney is a great G.M but he will get pinched to shed salary.. And none of there forwards are worth taking on.

Again, i read here how you Oiler fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 d-man & it really is hilarious.

The Coyotes aren't taking back salary, that's a guarantee. If & i say IF they move Yandle anywhere, it would be for a first rounder for sure plus prospect/s.

If you Oiler fans think you won't give up a 1st rounder this year, you're dreaming.

But then again, it's the same old thing with you Oiler fans, always expecting top players without giving top quality in return.

Don't stop dreaming, because it will never become reality.

LOL...good luck with that!!

Ekman Larsson is going to be due for a nice pay raise this summer, if the 2013 first rounder is going to be in play we may as well go all in and try to get him instead.
- Tony Montana

cmon peeps, yandle is to the coyotes what j shultz is to edm. you guys are not even close in the range of what they would ask. pho as much as I hate to say it, is a playoffteam, they will ask for the moon for yandle. better off spending that cash on an FA next year imo. or if the trade went down they would ask for hall. guys look at yandles stats. hes a potential 60+ p a year def. which is why I go the FA route and get streit
- munky123

Don't be surprized, these are the same Oiler fans who thought the team could acquire Weber for a bag of pucks - LMAO!!

Don't be surprized, these are the same Oiler fans who thought the team could acquire Weber for a bag of pucks - LMAO!!
- newmy

Wtf are you talking about?

Wtf are you talking about?
- robin_steele264

Oiler fans wanted Weber but yet they didn't think they'd have to part with any of the big 6 - that's what is hilarious because i'll say this with confidence - if the Oilers won't move any of their top 6 they speak so highly about, you won't be getting any top players like Weber anytime soon.

Oiler fans wanted Weber but yet they didn't think they'd have to part with any of the big 6 - that's what is hilarious because i'll say this with confidence - if the Oilers won't move any of their top 6 they speak so highly about, you won't be getting any top players like Weber anytime soon.
- newmy

Any examples of this?

Again, i read here how you Oiler fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 d-man & it really is hilarious.

The Coyotes aren't taking back salary, that's a guarantee. If & i say IF they move Yandle anywhere, it would be for a first rounder for sure plus prospect/s.

If you Oiler fans think you won't give up a 1st rounder this year, you're dreaming.

But then again, it's the same old thing with you Oiler fans, always expecting top players without giving top quality in return.

Don't stop dreaming, because it will never become reality.
- newmy

And here, wtf are you talking about?

Where are you reading that Oilers fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 dman?

And here, wtf are you talking about?

Where are you reading that Oilers fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 dman?
- robin_steele264

I think he's mistaking "oiler fans" with "cloutier". he wrote that blog a few weeks back, saying the oilers could get weber for picks, prospects, and hemsky (or something like that).

he obviously didn't read the comments section where pretty much every oiler fan called cloutier insane for thinking the oil could get weber for that price.


as for yandle, cloutier is again dreaming if he thinks the oil can get him for a 1st and a mid-tier prospect. the guy is probably one of the top 5 PMD's in the league, and phx is a playoff team that will want to continue making the playoffs in order to earn some of that playoff revenue. they DEFINITELY won't trade arguably their best roster player for pick and prospect.

like some others have said, if yandle is the target, then one of the big guys has to go back. which obviously means that it's not a trade that's ever going to happen.

Again, i read here how you Oiler fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 d-man & it really is hilarious.

The Coyotes aren't taking back salary, that's a guarantee. If & i say IF they move Yandle anywhere, it would be for a first rounder for sure plus prospect/s.

If you Oiler fans think you won't give up a 1st rounder this year, you're dreaming.

But then again, it's the same old thing with you Oiler fans, always expecting top players without giving top quality in return.

Don't stop dreaming, because it will never become reality.
- newmy

I see you're still incapable of reading. And articulate writing.

If you want Yandle, you'd have to give one of eberle,hall,rnh,yakupov + picks + decent D.

Stop trying to trade your spare parts for high quality D, as far as I know, Pierre Gauthier/Bob Gainey aren't GMs anymore, not gonna work.

If you want Yandle, you'd have to give one of eberle,hall,rnh,yakupov + picks + decent D.

Stop trying to trade your spare parts for high quality D, as far as I know, Pierre Gauthier/Bob Gainey aren't GMs anymore, not gonna work.
- jdacosta

So Yandle for RNH, 1st, Smid?


That seem fair?

So Yandle for RNH, 1st, Smid?


That seem fair?
- robin_steele264

With Phoenix adding a depth forward and late picks to sweeten the pot, yes.

With Phoenix adding a depth forward and late picks to sweeten the pot, yes.
- jdacosta

Just cause Cloutier might throw some crazy poop out there doesn't mean you gotta turn up the crazy poop knob in the other direction.

Shultz is our Yandle and won't have a huge cap hit and costly assets to aqquire.

What we need is a new Whitney to replace Whitney. Does that seem logical?

Again, i read here how you Oiler fans don't want to give anything up for a top 4 d-man & it really is hilarious.

The Coyotes aren't taking back salary, that's a guarantee. If & i say IF they move Yandle anywhere, it would be for a first rounder for sure plus prospect/s.

If you Oiler fans think you won't give up a 1st rounder this year, you're dreaming.

But then again, it's the same old thing with you Oiler fans, always expecting top players without giving top quality in return.

Don't stop dreaming, because it will never become reality.
- newmy

You're kind of silly if you think what Oiler fans (or any other fan) thinks has anything to do with what will or won't happen. So you too can stop dreaming.

If you want Yandle, you'd have to give one of eberle,hall,rnh,yakupov + picks + decent D.

Stop trying to trade your spare parts for high quality D, as far as I know, Pierre Gauthier/Bob Gainey aren't GMs anymore, not gonna work.
- jdacosta

that's a little ridiculous the other way.

IMO, rnh and eberle are worth more than yandle straight up.

i think hall and yandle are pretty close to even value (prob give the edge to hall based on age and good contract)

i think a fair trade for yandle would be Yak and a mid round pick, or soemthing like that.

the oil dont' NEED yak and hall, as they are very similar players. it's nice to have both, but it wouldn't be the end of the world to move one to bring in a player of equal value in a postion of greater need.

RNH is the top line center, they're impossible to find, so you don't move him for anything, IMO. Eberle is the oilers best all-around player, and has "future captain" written all over him. again, completely untradable.

i think, other than those 2, anybody in edmonton could be had "for the right price"

I think he's mistaking "oiler fans" with "cloutier". he wrote that blog a few weeks back, saying the oilers could get weber for picks, prospects, and hemsky (or something like that).

he obviously didn't read the comments section where pretty much every oiler fan called cloutier insane for thinking the oil could get weber for that price.


as for yandle, cloutier is again dreaming if he thinks the oil can get him for a 1st and a mid-tier prospect. the guy is probably one of the top 5 PMD's in the league, and phx is a playoff team that will want to continue making the playoffs in order to earn some of that playoff revenue. they DEFINITELY won't trade arguably their best roster player for pick and prospect.

like some others have said, if yandle is the target, then one of the big guys has to go back. which obviously means that it's not a trade that's ever going to happen.
- sensarmy_11

I disagree with the Yandle part. He's one of their better players, but far from their best. As great as he may be offensively, he's been known to make defensive gaffs quite commonly. In my opinion, Ekman-Larsson is without a doubt their best player. His development will open doors for the evolution of the Coyotes franchise, not only with his own play, but with the flexibility that he'll give the franchise. One such 'flexibility' is that of having a gross wealth of puck-movers. The organization could have the freedom to trade one of their many Dmen capable of advancing the puck in exchange for something they've lacked for a while; star power at the forward position.

Now, I realize the trade I proposed earlier doesn't facilitate what I'm preaching here, but we can be quite certain that no star forwards are getting traded out of Edmonton for at least a few years. As such, the likelihood of a deal made between these two teams featuring Yandle is very unlikely. Other deals, however, are within the realm of realism. Phoenix is stacked with young Dmen to the point where I feel bad for how they're being smothered. Conversely, Edmonton has some movable assets that could present an upgrade at the Coyotes' forward corps (most likely in the future). Chris Summers, for example, is one guy I'd like to snatch out of Phoenix (Portland in this case). I'd give up a 2nd and maybe a prospect for him.

Shultz is our Yandle and won't have a huge cap hit and costly assets to aqquire.

What we need is a new Whitney to replace Whitney. Does that seem logical?
- yaktalksback

Shultz MIGHT be your yandle. it's a little premature to put him at the same level as a premier puckmover in the league. that's like saying Yakupov is your stamkos.

schultz has a buttload of potential, but he is by no means a sure thing. if you ahve the chance to add a yandle, for the right price, you jump all over it.

If you want Yandle, you'd have to give one of eberle,hall,rnh,yakupov + picks + decent D.

Stop trying to trade your spare parts for high quality D, as far as I know, Pierre Gauthier/Bob Gainey aren't GMs anymore, not gonna work.
- jdacosta

Somebody overvalues other teams players? Or is he undervaluing Oilers players? I'm so befuddled!

that's a little ridiculous the other way.

IMO, rnh and eberle are worth more than yandle straight up.

i think hall and yandle are pretty close to even value (prob give the edge to hall based on age and good contract)

i think a fair trade for yandle would be Yak and a mid round pick, or soemthing like that.

the oil dont' NEED yak and hall, as they are very similar players. it's nice to have both, but it wouldn't be the end of the world to move one to bring in a player of equal value in a postion of greater need.

RNH is the top line center, they're impossible to find, so you don't move him for anything, IMO. Eberle is the oilers best all-around player, and has "future captain" written all over him. again, completely untradable.

i think, other than those 2, anybody in edmonton could be had "for the right price"
- sensarmy_11

Yandle is not getting moved for Hall or Yakupov. Would you trade Turris for Whitney? Exactly.

I disagree with the Yandle part. He's one of their better players, but far from their best. As great as he may be offensively, he's been known to make defensive gaffs quite commonly. In my opinion, Ekman-Larsson is without a doubt their best player. His development will open doors for the evolution of the Coyotes franchise, not only with his own play, but with the flexibility that he'll give the franchise. One such 'flexibility' is that of having a gross wealth of puck-movers. The organization could have the freedom to trade one of their many Dmen capable of advancing the puck in exchange for something they've lacked for a while; star power at the forward position.

Now, I realize the trade I proposed earlier doesn't facilitate what I'm preaching here, but we can be quite certain that no star forwards are getting traded out of Edmonton for at least a few years. As such, the likelihood of a deal made between these two teams featuring Yandle is very unlikely. Other deals, however, are within the realm of realism. Phoenix is stacked with young Dmen to the point where I feel bad for how they're being smothered. Conversely, Edmonton has some movable assets that could present an upgrade at the Coyotes' forward corps. Chris Summers, for example, is one guy I'd like to snatch out of Phoenix (Portland in this case). I'd give up a 2nd and maybe a prospect for him.
- MaximumBone

i like your trade offer at the bottom, seems to be something that helps both teams long term.

as for yandle, being in the east i rarely get to see his games, so i'll take your word for his defensive shortcomings. however, his stats in that area seem to be pretty good (although i realize that stats can be misleading when talking about defense). he doesn't have an abnormal amount of turnovers for a PMD, decent amount of blocked shots, decent +/-. nothing about his stats suggest a great defensive player, but nothing screams "liability" either. i think he's worth atleast a top end prospect (yakupov or Klefbom and a 1st type deal.)

Shultz MIGHT be your yandle. it's a little premature to put him at the same level as a premier puckmover in the league. that's like saying Yakupov is your stamkos.

schultz has a buttload of potential, but he is by no means a sure thing. if you ahve the chance to add a yandle, for the right price, you jump all over it.
- sensarmy_11

Hall or Yakupov is not the right price.

Yandle is not getting moved for Hall or Yakupov. Would you trade Turris for Whitney? Exactly.
- yaktalksback

are you actually comparing ryan whitney to keith yandle? a guy who's injured all the time, and who barely cracks the top 4 on most teams in the league, to a guy who's one of the top PMD's in the league?