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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 5:47 PM ET
gardiner sent back down.


yeti?
better than schultz?
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 6:10 PM ET
gardiner sent back down.


yeti?
better than schultz?

- hugefemale dog77




Bust

Jk, why was he sent back down again.?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 6:14 PM ET


Bust

Jk, why was he sent back down again.?

- spitfire187


carlyle wasnt happy with him i guess. he wasnt 'up to speed'

spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 6:22 PM ET
carlyle wasnt happy with him i guess. he wasnt 'up to speed'
- hugefemale dog77


Well then...
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 6:34 PM ET
carlyle wasnt happy with him i guess. he wasnt 'up to speed'
- hugefemale dog77


Kid is in the coach dog house for now.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
Kid is in the coach dog house for now.
- deks1


Any reason why?
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 6:58 PM ET
Any reason why?
- spitfire187


It's nothing major, just needs to get back into game shape.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 7:10 PM ET
The only reason the Yotes would trade Yandle is if they wanted to move some money...trading him for Horcoff? Not only is that ridiculously dumb, it defeats the whole purpose of the trade.
- The-O-G


That does move "money" it keeps cap space. Horcoff is owed (someone correct me here 3 and then 1 mil) for his last 2 years. In terms of money this saves them tons but it keeps the cap hit. They might need the cap hit but they are never going to spend to the cap limit. At least not in 2 years.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
Id rather try and explain trigonometry to a cat. Its why the whole thing is stupid and pointless to talk about. We only have a few salaries that would put them back above and two of them are salaries that the Oil will not be moving.
- sanfordnson



Why does no one read. They are not going to be below the floor. They only have 10 players signed for next year and no goalies. The Horcoff idea was good as they would pay him nothing and still get the benefit of a 5.5 cap hit but again people don't read.

Pho needs to sign some players, yes and remain marketable. To do this they can do it numerous ways but the easiest is taking on contracts of players about to be bought out, players that are good but their cap hit is high. Players that have 1 or 2 years left. Players that although the hit is high, have their contract weighted in such away that their last years pay them actual money that is negligible. Horcoff is one example.

I have never seen a group that thought it was so hard to get to the floor.

As for Edmonton giving up nothing, what Pho needs right now is prospects and young players. Edmonton has TONS. Too many to ever make the team. Pho isn't going to be a buyer at the trade deadline. They shed salary, grab some picks and prospects from the oilers and they are laughing. Maybe even a cheap depth player to fill the roles of the ones leaving. That is a smart trade for both sides. Edmonton can draft first overall and there is no guarantee that player will be a top 6 player. A first round pick for yandle and prospects still leaves edmonton with 2 second round picks and assets.

We don't have time to develop a dman to hit his peak when the kids do. As it is Klefbom is just going to make the cut off. Any dman we draft now 2 years minimum from being good and most likely 4. Phoenix needs a whole team of cheap players and Edmonton has too many. Match made in heaven.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 30 @ 7:35 PM ET
I realize EDM needs D help now, but Despres is a stud. Whatta ya think Clouts?

"The Pittsburgh Penguins are willing to trade defenseman Simon Despres, according to Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

The Penguins are interested in acquiring a forward and would be willing to move Despres if they could find one that meets general manager Ray Shero's standards."
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 7:35 PM ET
Why does no one read. They are not going to be below the floor. They only have 10 players signed for next year and no goalies. The Horcoff idea was good as they would pay him nothing and still get the benefit of a 5.5 cap hit but again people don't read.

Pho needs to sign some players, yes and remain marketable. To do this they can do it numerous ways but the easiest is taking on contracts of players about to be bought out, players that are good but their cap hit is high. Players that have 1 or 2 years left. Players that although the hit is high, have their contract weighted in such away that their last years pay them actual money that is negligible. Horcoff is one example.

I have never seen a group that thought it was so hard to get to the floor.

As for Edmonton giving up nothing, what Pho needs right now is prospects and young players. Edmonton has TONS. Too many to ever make the team. Pho isn't going to be a buyer at the trade deadline. They shed salary, grab some picks and prospects from the oilers and they are laughing. Maybe even a cheap depth player to fill the roles of the ones leaving. That is a smart trade for both sides. Edmonton can draft first overall and there is no guarantee that player will be a top 6 player. A first round pick for yandle and prospects still leaves edmonton with 2 second round picks and assets.

We don't have time to develop a dman to hit his peak when the kids do. As it is Klefbom is just going to make the cut off. Any dman we draft now 2 years minimum from being good and most likely 4. Phoenix needs a whole team of cheap players and Edmonton has too many. Match made in heaven.

- bsteinley


I like you and your logic.
heh49314
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Here, AB
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 30 @ 7:43 PM ET
Apparently ridiculous trade ideas are more important then making game day blogs. Off to work now, hopefully we can get a game on a night I work for once. So far record is 0-2 on work nights and 2-0 on off nights And I work again tomorrow night against sharks. So now you can all blame me as you should for why we sometimes lose.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 7:51 PM ET
Apparently ridiculous trade ideas are more important then making game day blogs. Off to work now, hopefully we can get a game on a night I work for once. So far record is 0-2 on work nights and 2-0 on off nights And I work again tomorrow night against sharks. So now you can all blame me as you should for why we sometimes lose.
- heh49314

Was just gonna suggest we can blame you if they lose tonight. Tomorrow however, you are off the hook as the Sharks are having an ok start to the season.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:51 PM ET
I realize EDM needs D help now, but Despres is a stud. Whatta ya think Clouts?

"The Pittsburgh Penguins are willing to trade defenseman Simon Despres, according to Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

The Penguins are interested in acquiring a forward and would be willing to move Despres if they could find one that meets general manager Ray Shero's standards."

- TheNugeIsHuge


Hemsky?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 7:54 PM ET
Hemsky?
- deks1

Moving Hemsky kills that second PP unit right now. Who replaces Hemsky?
andymaury
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jan 30 @ 7:56 PM ET
Moving Hemsky kills that second PP unit right now. Who replaces Hemsky?
- ruttager17

Keep Schultz and Ebs on the Point for both units
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:58 PM ET
Moving Hemsky kills that second PP unit right now. Who replaces Hemsky?
- ruttager17


It all depends is Despres going to benefit EDM more or keeping Hemsky is better. I would consider sticking PRV or Teemu there.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 7:59 PM ET
Keep Schultz and Ebs on the Point for both units
- andymaury

I wish. Can't really keep em both on that long, I know they are supermen but even those guys need a rest. Im talking about Hemsky's ability to control the puck on the half boards once the PP gets set up, can't deny he is skilled at this, same as nuge is on the other side of the ice on the 1st PP unit.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
Why does no one read. They are not going to be below the floor. They only have 10 players signed for next year and no goalies. The Horcoff idea was good as they would pay him nothing and still get the benefit of a 5.5 cap hit but again people don't read.

Pho needs to sign some players, yes and remain marketable. To do this they can do it numerous ways but the easiest is taking on contracts of players about to be bought out, players that are good but their cap hit is high. Players that have 1 or 2 years left. Players that although the hit is high, have their contract weighted in such away that their last years pay them actual money that is negligible. Horcoff is one example.

I have never seen a group that thought it was so hard to get to the floor.

As for Edmonton giving up nothing, what Pho needs right now is prospects and young players. Edmonton has TONS. Too many to ever make the team. Pho isn't going to be a buyer at the trade deadline. They shed salary, grab some picks and prospects from the oilers and they are laughing. Maybe even a cheap depth player to fill the roles of the ones leaving. That is a smart trade for both sides. Edmonton can draft first overall and there is no guarantee that player will be a top 6 player. A first round pick for yandle and prospects still leaves edmonton with 2 second round picks and assets.

We don't have time to develop a dman to hit his peak when the kids do. As it is Klefbom is just going to make the cut off. Any dman we draft now 2 years minimum from being good and most likely 4. Phoenix needs a whole team of cheap players and Edmonton has too many. Match made in heaven.

- bsteinley


I like that idea, but I don't know Horcoff salary pay (not cap hit #) at $6M, $4M. and $3M final year is all that appealing to PHX.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
It all depends is Despres going to benefit EDM more or keeping Hemsky is better. I would consider sticking PRV or Teemu there.
- deks1

Excellent point. Risk/reward ratio. Still think its a bit early to make a call yet. PRV and Teemu can't really do what Hemmer does with the puck on the half boards. Teemu needs to plant his ass in front of the net and if PRV would actually use his size he could do the same.
andymaury
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
I wish. Can't really keep em both on that long, I know they are supermen but even those guys need a rest. Im talking about Hemsky's ability to control the puck on the half boards once the PP gets set up, can't deny he is skilled at this, same as nuge is on the other side of the ice on the 1st PP unit.
- ruttager17

Give Yaks the ball. He looks dangerous with the puck
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 8:06 PM ET
Moving Hemsky kills that second PP unit right now. Who replaces Hemsky?
- ruttager17


Thor
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jan 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Excellent point. Risk/reward ratio. Still think its a bit early to make a call yet. PRV and Teemu can't really do what Hemmer does with the puck on the half boards. Teemu needs to plant his ass in front of the net and if PRV would actually use his size he could do the same.
- ruttager17


I also think it's too early to tell. I would prefer to trade Hemsky for another forward winger that has size. I am looking at Scottie Upshall from FLA. I'd look at trading Whitney+ for Mezaros from PHI.

I agree with you Teemu belongs in front of the net and even he admits that's his game. He did great against COL keep banging at the puck and eventually Hemsky came over and nailed it past Varlamov. EDM has to give another chance to PRV, otherwise call up Omark?

Give Yaks the ball. He looks dangerous with the puck
- andymaury


or this...
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 30 @ 8:11 PM ET
I wish. Can't really keep em both on that long, I know they are supermen but even those guys need a rest. Im talking about Hemsky's ability to control the puck on the half boards once the PP gets set up, can't deny he is skilled at this, same as nuge is on the other side of the ice on the 1st PP unit.
- ruttager17

MPS is actually a possession monster on the PP. In the couple games I went to see last year, they actually gave him some PP time and he was marvellous. Hemsky is critical to the PP but he's replaceable.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
Give Yaks the ball. He looks dangerous with the puck
- andymaury

Yeah I was thinking that, but maybe a little too soon for that. Give him time yes, kid has sick hands, but I like the fact they are using him for his shot on the pp. As much as everyone hates on Hemmer and I read people complaining about his "garbage goal that anyone could score" the other night (mainly clouts) do we really have the luxury of complaining about the nature in which goals are scored, or should we just focus on the fact they are scoring. Beggers can't be choosers.
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