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saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
Stauffer guessing same lineups as last game. Hope he is wrong, would really like to see Fistric in alot more.
- heh49314



No poop... WTF- we need energy on this team and I feel that fistric more than created energy with his hammering of any and everyone of opposition! Well if we are showcasing Whitney it makes sense though to have Potter to make him look better...
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
HAHA, everyday? you mean all 6 games he's played in the NHL?

should we compare yak to stamkos then.

perhaps montreal should start comparing galchenyuk to crosby, and tarasenko should be put in the same class as malkin.

if you think that the kid should be compared to a perenial allstar like yandle, then all i have to say to you is

is he good? sure

does he have the P O T E N T I A L to be great? absolutely (and i spelled that out for you deliberately)

can you say he's a premier puckmover, SIX GAMES INTO HIS CAREER? A B S O L U T E L Y N O T!!!!!! (again, spelled out deliberately)

the kid had great numbers in the AHL, big friggin deal, it's the AHL. he's looked pretty good with edmonton, but that's about it, pretty good.

you need to realize that potential is not the same as being a great player right now.

- sensarmy_11



Wow way to act like a tool, I'll bet you Schultz finishes with more points this year than yandle and from there on out as well...
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
Stauffer guessing same lineups as last game. Hope he is wrong, would really like to see Fistric in alot more.
- heh49314

You would like to see the FISTric in a lot more???? GIGGITY
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
Stauffer guessing same lineups as last game. Hope he is wrong, would really like to see Fistric in alot more.
- heh49314

Oilers retweeted it so I suggest he's probably right.

I just hope they are showcasing Whitney/Potter. Sitting Fistric makes little sense.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
i would have thought it was the other way around.

i think eberle and toews are cut from the same mold, players that are flat out good at EVERYTHING, including in a leadership roll.

i would say that hall and kane are the same, both incredible offensive talents, but not players i could see being captains of a team, or who i would view as "best overall players" on their team

- sensarmy_11

Hall is so important to this team. His skillset cant be replaced by anyone the oil have.
But these chicago comparisons are silly.

Hes far from being considered in toews' class.
While eberle is already better than kane imo
heh49314
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Here, AB
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
You would like to see the FISTric in a lot more???? GIGGITY
- ruttager17

You jealous bro?
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
not sure what you're point here is. whitney was putting up those numbers the same time that cheechoo was scoring 50, alfredsson and kovalev were putting up 90pt seasons, and giguere was one of the best goalies in the league.

refresh my memory, but i'm pretty sure a few things have changed since then.

- sensarmy_11


Do you just always act like a condescending (frank)ing tool? I have no idea what the (frank) you're point is suppose to be but thanks for the input I guess?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
Hall is so important to this team. His skillset cant be replaced by anyone the oil have.
But these chicago comparisons are silly.

Hes far from being considered in toews' class.
While eberle is already better than kane imo

- hugefemale dog77

Maybe it's just me but Eberle seems more of a comparable to Toews and Hall with Kane.

ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
You jealous bro?
- heh49314

Obviously not. I said GIGGITY
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
Thats a poor comparison anyways, Yandle in his rookie year had 12pts in 43gp, Schultz, already has 5pts in 5gp in what will turn out to be a 48 game season. Safe to say Schultz, offensively anyways, is better than yandle.
- ruttager17



HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
Maybe it's just me but Eberle seems more of a comparable to Toews and Hall with Kane.
- Lahey

Everythings just generalizations, so i suppose its all personal opinions.

Attitude, leadership etc i agree.
But skillset and style of play, i dont
heh49314
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Here, AB
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
Maybe it's just me but Eberle seems more of a comparable to Toews and Hall with Kane.
- Lahey

You are not the only one who feels that way. Of course we can all at least agree that the Oiler versions are far superior.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
Hall is so important to this team. His skillset cant be replaced by anyone the oil have.
But these chicago comparisons are silly.

Hes far from being considered in toews' class.
While eberle is already better than kane imo

- hugefemale dog77



I think your mind will change once Yaks gets 35 games under his belt... The (frank)ing kid already is more solid on the puck and has as much speed... not saying I want Yak to replace Hall but as for 1st overalls Yaks physically is the best out of the bunch and has a superior one timer from what I have seen for a rookie...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
For a rookie dman, just 5 games in, hes looked much more than just 'pretty good'.
That's all i say for now
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
Do you just always act like a condescending (frank)ing tool? I have no idea what the (frank) you're point is suppose to be but thanks for the input I guess?
- SpoiledByOil


my point was that using whitney's stats from 6 years ago to determine his worth right now was franking ridiculous, and you saying that schultz is better than yandle right now is even more ridiculous

as for being condescending, well when you make a point that isn't completely ridiculous, and has even a shred of objectivity, well then maybe i'll talk to you like a big boy
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
At the very least, Gagner, 2013 1st, both our 2013 2nds and a good prospect.

You don't get Yandle for cheap.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
For a rookie dman, just 5 games in, hes looked much more than just 'pretty good'.
That's all i say for now

- hugefemale dog77


in the 2 games i've seen, i found that he looked good in the offensive zone, but still looked pretty shaky in his own zone.

IMO, that averages out to pretty good.

it's still ridiculous to say he's as good as a 26 year old all-star d-man, as some other genius seems to want to do
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
At the very least, Gagner, 2013 1st, both our 2013 2nds and a good prospect.

You don't get Yandle for cheap.

- Morris


as long as teh numbers worked out, in terms of phx staying above the cap floor, i'd do that deal.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
I think your mind will change once Yaks gets 35 games under his belt... The (frank)ing kid already is more solid on the puck and has as much speed... not saying I want Yak to replace Hall but as for 1st overalls Yaks physically is the best out of the bunch and has a superior one timer from what I have seen for a rookie...
- saskoil21

Love to have two of em, and hope ur right.

A couple things tho. Im not sure about yaks IQ. He looked great against LA, and mediocre to bad in the other 4. But yes, so early. Just sayin.

on the flip side, i dont really remember specifically halls first 5 games. but i do remember him being the best player on the ice alot of nights. He was a revelation.
That first year, i had a hard time seeing ebs as the better player going forward.
Now id be tough to convince hes not. (Different anyway)

Yaks does have a silly one time though, and will certainly improve
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
in the 2 games i've seen, i found that he looked good in the offensive zone, but still looked pretty shaky in his own zone.

IMO, that averages out to pretty good.

it's still ridiculous to say he's as good as a 26 year old all-star d-man, as some other genius seems to want to do

- sensarmy_11

His offensive instincts are off the charts. You can just see his nose for the game. 5 pts in his first 5 games.
And defensively hes been far from bad. A few expected errors. And imo, those we're really only in 1 game. but overall a pleasant surprise defensively.

Hes gonna be great.

As good as yandle yet? No. Wayy better at the same point in their careers?
Easily
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 30 @ 2:57 PM ET
His offensive instincts are off the charts. You can just see his nose for the game. 5 pts in his first 5 games.
And defensively hes been far from bad. A few expected errors. And imo, those we're really only in 1 game. but overall a pleasant surprise defensively.

Hes gonna be great.

As good as yandle yet? No. Wayy better at the same point in their careers?
Easily

- hugefemale dog77


i wouldn't say "bad" defensively, but atleast in the 2 games i saw, he seemed to be running around alot out of position.

i don't doubt that he's gonna be a great player, but i think he has a lot to learn. i think that right now he's a good player, and once he has a couple of years under his belt, then he could definitely be great........see karlsson.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:58 PM ET
Me three pages ago
- AdamFrench

Hey what's your spin on Reider? Is it just that he's too small?
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 30 @ 3:05 PM ET
my point was that using whitney's stats from 6 years ago to determine his worth right now was franking ridiculous, and you saying that schultz is better than yandle right now is even more ridiculous

as for being condescending, well when you make a point that isn't completely ridiculous, and has even a shred of objectivity, well then maybe i'll talk to you like a big boy

- sensarmy_11



And that is not what I was doing with Whitney you tool. Not my problem you're too (frank)ing stupid to understand. And I could care less what you say, Schultz is better offensively than Yandle. Keep trying to act like a "big boy" maybe read what I post in here and you'll have a different opinion on what my points are. You're a loser who gets all (frank)ing poopy pants if someone says something you don't agree with. I said nothing about his stats 6 years ago affecting his trade value now, so pull your head out of your ass and brush up on your comprehension skills before you fly off at the mouth like a jack ass. And Schultz will have more points than Yandle this year, and continue to do so IMO if you don't like it then go (frank) yourself
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:05 PM ET
as long as teh numbers worked out, in terms of phx staying above the cap floor, i'd do that deal.
- sensarmy_11

Tears a huge hole in our forwards though, especially if Horcoff is bought out as claimed.

However, if we go out free agent shopping (and I'm just spit-balling)

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Pajaarvi-Bozak/Weiss/Zubrus -Yakupov
Smyth-Halpern-Jones
Harti-Belanger-Eager

Yandle-Smid
J.Schultz-Scuderi
Petry-N.Schultz

... maybe too much spitballing
heh49314
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Here, AB
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:10 PM ET
And that is not what I was doing with Whitney you tool. Not my problem you're too (frank)ing stupid to understand. And I could care less what you say, Schultz is better offensively than Yandle. Keep trying to act like a "big boy" maybe read what I post in here and you'll have a different opinion on what my points are. You're a loser who gets all (frank)ing poopy pants if someone says something you don't agree with. I said nothing about his stats 6 years ago affecting his trade value now, so pull your head out of your ass and brush up on your comprehension skills before you fly off at the mouth like a jack ass. And Schultz will have more points than Yandle this year, and continue to do so IMO if you don't like it then go (frank) yourself
- SpoiledByOil

Seriously try and calm down a little. You are not doing yourself any favors. Hockeybuzz is probably not the best place for you if you are going to get into a habit of overreacting like this.
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