0 Stanley Cups.
- Two_For_Truth

what? they just traded for Nash, you cant win the cup 6 games into a season..

0 Stanley Cups.
- Two_For_Truth

you're a clown. Only 1 team wins the cup. The rangers are a damned good team and if you can only see in draft picks and stanley cup trophies then you're dense

Watch them play instead of watching TSN stats and draft rankings

Check your facts. Brown was a 1st round pick.

Find me a player the Leafs have drafted outside of the top ten who turned out to be like Kopitar or a goalie 72nd overall who turned out like Quick. Good luck finding him.

And yet, without Doughty, they don't have enough to win it all.
- Two_For_Truth

Randy Carlyle 30th Norris Trophy ring a bell

Judging Nonis based on the drafts of GM's past is lunacy.

And if the Leafs are that bad at drafting its even more absurd to suggest they should tank.
- systemtool

You want to judge based on Nonis' drafting record? You think it's any better?

Whether it's the Leafs scouting staff (which is the same as years past) or whether it's Nonis you want to judge, the results are the same; not good enough.

Wouldn't that be a lovely dream come true?

But that's what it is. A dream.
- Two_For_Truth

Yep nobody has ever become a late bloomer when did datsyuk start playing n the NHL?

- systemtool

i understand his his frustration with his teams drafting, sometimes I look back and question some wings pick. A fan could do that with any team. But, for a fan to think he could better draft/run a team better then a GM is outright hilarious.

Yep nobody has ever become a late bloomer when did datsyuk start playing n the NHL?
- Yeti1181

pavel is a alien, doesnt count.

so, another GM/front office should draft for the leafs? whats the solution here, make u the GM...
- wingz4life

pretty much

So just because LA drafted Brown, it doesnt mean the Leafs can. But because the Hawks drafted Toews, it means the Leafs can.
Holy crap this is hilarious poop.
- systemtool

Odds of drafting a player like Brown 13th versus odds of drafting a player like Toews 3rd?

C'mon now...

i understand his his frustration with his teams drafting, sometimes I look back and question some wings pick. A fan could do that with any team. But, for a fan to think he could better draft/run a team better then a GM is outright hilarious.
- wingz4life

We should bring JFJ back as a head scout. He did some damn good draft picks for the Leafs but some awful trades.

Its a band wagon fan base here. Ive liked his and Komis game most of the season to be honest.
- systemtool

we are the same. franson not playing is ridiculous and komi has looked good as well

Randy Carlyle 30th Norris Trophy ring a bell
- jribout

Two points for u good sir.

you're a clown. Only 1 team wins the cup. The rangers are a damned good team and if you can only see in draft picks and stanley cup trophies then you're dense

Watch them play instead of watching TSN stats and draft rankings
- twiztedmike

That's right, only one team wins the Cup. Shouldn't that be an indication that maybe the longer and the better you rebuild your team, the better your odds of winning become?

You want to judge based on Nonis' drafting record? You think it's any better?

Whether it's the Leafs scouting staff (which is the same as years past) or whether it's Nonis you want to judge, the results are the same; not good enough.
- Two_For_Truth

Nonis has been on the job for a month. Come on UG, go to bed, this is really making you look bad tonight.

Odds of drafting a player like Brown 13th versus odds of drafting a player like Toews 3rd?

C'mon now...
- Two_For_Truth

you obviously never played sports.

YOU NEVER TANK.

NEVER.

EVER.

Odds of drafting a player like Brown 13th versus odds of drafting a player like Toews 3rd?

C'mon now...
- Two_For_Truth

u talk about toews,yzerman, etc.

i could talk about daigle, jessiman, stefan, erik johnson..

what? they just traded for Nash, you cant win the cup 6 games into a season..
- wingz4life

there is no place for this kind of reasoning here. (frank) you

Wouldn't that be a lovely dream come true?

But that's what it is. A dream.
- Two_For_Truth

Late-Bloomers seem to be what the current Leafs are all about.

i understand his his frustration with his teams drafting, sometimes I look back and question some wings pick. A fan could do that with any team. But, for a fan to think he could better draft/run a team better then a GM is outright hilarious.
- wingz4life

We're all frustrated, trust me.

The problem here is that in one breath hes saying the Leafs cant draft for poop, that its a proven fact. Then in the next breath, he insists that its the only way this team can be successful, through drafting.

Its absurd.

Yep nobody has ever become a late bloomer when did datsyuk start playing n the NHL?
- Yeti1181

When did the Leafs draft Datsyuk or anybody remotely close to him?

Never happened before huh?

No kidding.

That's right, only one team wins the Cup. Shouldn't that be an indication that maybe the longer and the better you rebuild your team, the better your odds of winning become?
- Two_For_Truth

The problem is you think the only way is to 'rebuild' and that 'build' is not possible.

We can take the Leafs right now, and keep 'building' our team, making prudent trades and drafting with our own 1sts... See Schenn, Kadri. (Trades for Phaneuf, Lupul) and good FA signings (Unfortunately, this department is lacking)

pavel is a alien, doesnt count.
- wingz4life

Nobody specified they had to be human. Also I like to offer up Harry potter as a late bloomer to quiddich

u talk about toews,yzerman, etc.

i could talk about daigle, jessiman, stefan, erik johnson..
- wingz4life

Rick Dipetro. Pascal Leclaire. Thomas Hickey, the Schenn brothers.

When did the Leafs draft Datsyuk or anybody remotely close to him?

Never happened before huh?

No kidding.
- Two_For_Truth

datsyuk was a anomaly, u know datsyuk went undrafted in 2 drafts before that right...

That's right, only one team wins the Cup. Shouldn't that be an indication that maybe the longer and the better you rebuild your team, the better your odds of winning become?
- Two_For_Truth

So who did you tug on to be able to dodge the lengthy ban, and be able to agitate the entire fanbase under an alternate account anyways?