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- LeafMan

nice!! that will give me something to browse while i wait on everyone to get their layers right lol

If you can't get that franchise player, you keep drafting until you do. Simple.

What you don't do is keep Kessel on a huge contract screwing around chasing 8th place every year. That just delays the inevitable.



Who said anything about what the Leafs gave up to get Kessel? Absolutely nobody said that what they gave up for Kessel needs to be exactly what they get in return for him. The point of trading Kessel is to get as many top prospects and picks in return for him and allowing the team to draft as high as possible instead of watching him walk for nothing or get overpaid to stay and keep this team mediocre.
- Two_For_Truth

delays us from aquring any free agents that may help improve the team...like say a getzlaf or a perry for example.

these guys are not exactly ancient...you could easily turn it around with one of them, and get lucky with a couple late firsts and early second/third round picks...

zetterberg, datsyuk, grabovski were all in the later round 4-7.

it happens, more often than not.

PITTSBURGH MODEL MY ASS!
- Pecafan Fan

oh, my...

That's wrong. What's the point of treading water and hanging on to talent that costs you more than it's worth?

If you want to get as much talent as you can, you bomb a few seasons and hit the draft table really hard. That gives you elite level talent, 18 to 20 year old players, on ELC and gives you a lot more time and flexibility.

- Two_For_Truth

As per my posts to Tony Fernandez, I don't have a problem with that line of thinking. It's a different way of getting as much talent as you can. I'm just rejecting the notion of "building around."

Ultimately, though, I don't think you'd ever get enough for Kessel in a trade to make it worthwhile. Columbus isn't going to trade for him. You'll get a 1st rounder for him, but it's going to be in the 20-30 range.

That was before they knew who or what Scotty Bowman was capable of. Unless you can find somebody to do that with Kessel, the point still stands; the Leafs need to find the right guy to build around.
- Two_For_Truth

I was going to write something about this, but instead I'll just sit back and wonder what you would say if somebody else on this board wrote that.

I'm guessing your reply would have earned you another 15 month ban.

oh, my...
- LeafMan

TRUTH HURTS


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PITTSBURGH MODEL MY ASS!
- Pecafan Fan

They won a god damn lottery....

oh, my...
- LeafMan

A whole post of personal jabs.

So you're not here as much as I am, but know exactly now often im on by not being here. Convincing. See as how you resorted to this tirade, I can see why heart rates and internet tough guys was something you would bring up.
- systemtool

If you're gonna cry over what I said, then cry, but there's no need to act indignant and shocked. Jesus Christ, did I just just drive home the point that whenever I'm on commenting, you're there, and when I'm just browsing through, you're there? Your ankle is shot, which also helps point to the fact that you live on these boards; I'm betting the other people in this thread can attest to you being on here the majority of the day/week/month. You just sound petty

They won a god damn lottery....
- Fruitcakenipple

Some would argue Malkin was/is better than their lottery prize.

If you're gonna cry over what I said, then cry, but there's no need to act indignant and shocked. Jesus Christ, did I just just drive home the point that whenever I'm on commenting, you're there, and when I'm just browsing through, you're there? Your ankle is shot, which also helps point to the fact that you live on these boards; I'm betting the other people in this thread can attest to you being on here the majority of the day/week/month. You just sound petty
- Conquest

Good for you. Excellent post.

Ive been here alot the past 3-4 weeks, I wasnt on that often before. But if you feel the need to belittle people who use the same forum as you, then go ahead.

delays us from aquring any free agents that may help improve the team...like say a getzlaf or a perry for example.

these guys are not exactly ancient...you could easily turn it around with one of them, and get lucky with a couple late firsts and early second/third round picks...

zetterberg, datsyuk, grabovski were all in the later round 4-7.

it happens, more often than not.
- big_dion

More not than often, actually.

I'm not arguing against the tank and draft strategy.

I'm just irked by the whole "build around" notion - which so far nobody has been able to define for me.

You get as many good players as you can. If you choose to do that by tanking and drafting high, go for it.

But I reject the idea that you "build a team" around a guy. Whether you have Player A or Player B, you still try to get the next best player you can.
- Atomic Wedgie

When I say "build around" a guy, I'm talking about a constant, long term, central figure who you can depend on for leadership and results. You know as well as anybody that Toronto needs to have "a guy". Whether it was Sundin, Gilmour, Clark, Sittler, Keon, Armstrong etc. the Leafs have always had "that guy" who was the captain. The face of the franchise. The guy the team revolves around. The guy who can carry the team, who leads the team etc.

Every successful team in the NHL has had one of these guys, if not more than one guy, but at least one to start with. I'm not saying the Leafs have to limit themselves to just one guy. Hell, I'll take an army of franchise players like the Oilers seem to be doing. But it has to be at least one to start with.

"That guy" isn't Kessel. It's not Phaneuf. These are things you yourself have said many times. This franchise, this market and this team needs it. Once you have "that guy", the other pieces can start to fall into place. But it has to start somewhere in this market. It's just absolutely necessary.

Some would argue Malkin was/is better than their lottery prize.
- Pecafan Fan

at times for sure

overall

debaitable!

im off for the day, later fellas.

When I say "build around" a guy, I'm talking about a constant, long term, central figure who you can depend on for leadership and results. You know as well as anybody that Toronto needs to have "a guy". Whether it was Sundin, Gilmour, Clark, Sittler, Keon, Armstrong etc. the Leafs have always had "that guy" who was the captain. The face of the franchise. The guy the team revolves around. The guy who can carry the team, who leads the team etc.

Every successful team in the NHL has had one of these guys, if not more than one guy, but at least one to start with. I'm not saying the Leafs have to limit themselves to just one guy. Hell, I'll take an army of franchise players like the Oilers seem to be doing. But it has to be at least one to start with.

"That guy" isn't Kessel. It's not Phaneuf. These are things you yourself have said many times. This franchise, this market and this team needs it. Once you have "that guy", the other pieces can start to fall into place. But it has to start somewhere in this market. It's just absolutely necessary.
- Two_For_Truth

closing statement:

GRABOVSKI

does anyone think that if Burke traded for Malkin in 2008 instead of Kessel, the leafs would have made the playoffs in the past 4 seasons?

completely hypothetical of course

Good for you. Excellent post.
- systemtool

Thanks I'm done with this conversation; I have a feeling you'll post something in response to this to get an extra shot in at me. I'm able to stop posting when I want because I don't have any ties here, and could care less what you say. Hopefully your leg gets better

Some would argue Malkin was/is better than their lottery prize.
- Pecafan Fan

You know, I wonder what the count would be who people would choose, Malkin or Crosby?

You know, I wonder what the count would be who people would take, Malkin or Crosby?
- LeafMan

yes

Thanks I'm done with this conversation; I have a feeling you'll post something in response to this to get an extra shot in at me. I'm able to stop posting when I want because I don't have any ties here, and could care less what you say. Hopefully your leg gets better
- Conquest

Good job. We get it, you're rattled and you're never here, you just know who is always here. You rule. You control when you post, a gift only you were blessed with.

You effers know there's a new blog up, right?

You effers know there's a new blog up, right?
- Atomic Wedgie

this blog will never die!

Some would argue Malkin was/is better than their lottery prize.
- Pecafan Fan

I think a large majority would rather crosby on their team, he still looks a little rusty right now though

You know, I wonder what the count would be who people would choose, Malkin or Crosby?
- LeafMan

I think it would vary from continent to continent, but Don Cherry's answer would be "Mike Zigomanis".

I think it would vary from continent to continent, but Don Cherry's answer would be "Mike Zigomanis".
- 1979AD

You know, I wonder what the count would be who people would choose, Malkin or Crosby?
- LeafMan

I CHOOSE POTATO