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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:42 PM ET
bread crumbs, oregano, basil, pepper, onion and garlic powder

dipped halved chicken breast in egg, breaded in the mix.. bake at 350F for about 40min

- Dozzer

You can just use Italian seasoning, also for a kick, add grated ginger to the mix.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
stick the course, good man!
- big_dion


hahah yeah, besides.. there is always drinking at the studio

the trick is to not go over an upper limit.. beer an hour is generally a good rule
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Care to define this?

All championship teams over the course of history have had at least one guy who is really, really good.

What does "built around" mean?

Did the Red Wings put a picture of Yzerman up on a screen, and then tell all their scouts to start thinking about a 3rd line centre who they could get who would best mesh with Yzerman?

Was Lidstrom drafted in the fourth round specifically to compliment Yzmerman's characteristics?

The Red Wings had Yzerman. Then they added as many great players as they could, as often as they could.

- Atomic Wedgie


^^
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
kessel is a piece

thats it.

hes not a guy to build a team around, but without a guy like kessel on your team (natural sniper) you wont win the cup.

thats how it is.

- big_dion


The Leafs have way more bigger holes to fill than the hole Kessel fills. Acquiring a player like Kessel down the line is a lot easier than it is acquiring the franchise player they so desperately need. As many other teams have done before, they acquire Kessel type players as one of the last pieces to the puzzle, not the first.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
Care to define this?

All championship teams over the course of history have had at least one guy who is really, really good.

What does "built around" mean?

Did the Red Wings put a picture of Yzerman up on a screen, and then tell all their scouts to start thinking about a 3rd line centre who they could get who would best mesh with Yzerman?

Was Lidstrom drafted in the fourth round specifically to compliment Yzmerman's characteristics?

The Red Wings had Yzerman. Then they added as many great players as they could, as often as they could.

- Atomic Wedgie


No but they drafted Yzerman 4th overall and locked him up for his entire career. Subsequent frachise players like Federov and Lidstrom they were more lucky in obtaining.

How good were they before they drafted Yzerman and kept him as that centrepiece? How did that strategy work out?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
You can just use Italian seasoning, also for a kick, add grated ginger to the mix.
- LeafMan


oh nice.. and yeah, we have some of that seasoning as well. those were what i just pulled out of the cupboard last night lol

check this out Lou.. here's the sound board of the studio we start working in tonight. this was taken during the pre-prod meeting a week or so ago. its a good pic cause my ugly mug isnt in it lol

Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
WTF?

At no point was I uncivil, and its laughable you have to use age insult then try to be the better man at the end. Im living in bed and on the couch, the results of surgery. But if its convenient and necessary for you to assume such things to insult me and glorify yourself, have at it. We're done here.

- systemtool


Asking if you're 17 isn't an insult, it was an honest question; you seem to think buying vehicles isn't an investment which leads me to question your age (and if you can even buy a car yet) and whether you know what investments are. An investment is not just buying stocks, it's putting money into something to have the best opportunity for your dollar. I snapped my femur in half and was in the hospital for months, and you know what I did? I worked out, read, studied and got stronger so I didn't have to rely on my legs to get around. We're different and I don't know you're situation, but I wouldn't be posting here every day getting my heart rate up over comments made by some internet tough guys. I'd be doing anything I could to be productive.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
Care to define this?

All championship teams over the course of history have had at least one guy who is really, really good.

What does "built around" mean?

Did the Red Wings put a picture of Yzerman up on a screen, and then tell all their scouts to start thinking about a 3rd line centre who they could get who would best mesh with Yzerman?

Was Lidstrom drafted in the fourth round specifically to compliment Yzmerman's characteristics?

The Red Wings had Yzerman. Then they added as many great players as they could, as often as they could.

- Atomic Wedgie


it doesnt get any more accurate than this.

winner gagnon.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
In fairness, he said 'chance' to get what they need. The sarcastic magic 8 ball has no place there.
- 1979AD


You dont trade a guy like Kessel for a chance to get a player better than Kessel. Those odds are extremely low.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
In fairness, he said 'chance' to get what they need. The sarcastic magic 8 ball has no place there.
- 1979AD


There is always time for the magic 8 ball, and who said I was referring the literal thing.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
i like your avatar, we should get their two best players
- peddy-93

Thanks Nathan MacKinnon will be a 100 point player in 3-4 years, Jonathan Drouin is good, but i don't see his game being as effective in the NHL. still good, but i wouldn't draft him top 5 and he probably will go top 5. if we could draft MacKinnon we wouldn't worry about who we're building this team around
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Him being the most talented player is does not make him the player the team is building around. It just means they havent found that player and have a lot of work to do, but trading the best player you have who is 25 is not the solution.
- systemtool


And since you dodged the question yesterday, I'll ask you again, where are they going to get "the guy"?

Trading Kessel is the solution. It gives the Leafs at least a top prospect and a 1st round pick plus allows them to bottom feed and draft really high a least once or twice to get the guy they really need.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Asking if you're 17 isn't an insult, it was an honest question; you seem to think buying vehicles isn't an investment which leads me to question your age (and if you can even buy a car yet) and whether you know what investments are. An investment is not just buying stocks, it's putting money into something to have the best opportunity for your dollar. I snapped my femur in half and was in the hospital for months, and you know what I did? I worked out, read, studied and got stronger so I didn't have to rely on my legs to get around. We're different and I don't know you're situation, but I wouldn't be posting here every day getting my heart rate up over comments made by some internet tough guys. I'd be doing anything I could to be productive.
- Conquest


I never said buying a car wasn't an investment. I said its a horrible investment, as far as investments go. Buying a home would have made more sense, but maybe you're 18 and never thought of or know anything about buying homes?
See how this works?
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
One step forward, two steps back. Makes sense.
- A_Tree


How is acquiring Kessel a step forward? You know what's two steps forward? Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Please, keep telling me about moving forward.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
When a player is the most talented player on the team and soon to be the highest paid guy on the team (if they keep him at his going rate), it's really hard to argue he's not the guy the team is trying to build around especially when they're resigning his linemates to long term deals.
- Two_For_Truth



Rick Nash is the highest paid player on the Rangers. He is not the player they built around now is he??

Gaborik is the 2nd highest paid player on the team. Is he the player the team is built around. Nope.


Nice try sport
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
Those guys have not prevented them from finishing in lottery range in their most current season, and the fact this team is so young and has upside, guys like Kadri and Frattin are doing as much, if not more, to land this team outside the bottom 3 picks.
- systemtool


That's the problem, right now... how/where to get that franchise player.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
oh nice.. and yeah, we have some of that seasoning as well. those were what i just pulled out of the cupboard last night lol

check this out Lou.. here's the sound board of the studio we start working in tonight. this was taken during the pre-prod meeting a week or so ago. its a good pic cause my ugly mug isnt in it lol


- Dozzer

Nice setup, ever been to Metalworks studios? The one that the guys from Triumph built specifically to record their own albums, now it is one of the most used in Canada, took a tour of it once, incredible.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
And since you dodged the question yesterday, I'll ask you again, where are they going to get "the guy"?

Trading Kessel is the solution. It gives the Leafs at least a top prospect and a 1st round pick plus allows them to bottom feed and draft really high a least once or twice to get the guy they really need.

- Two_For_Truth


The same place they are going to get "the guy" after they trade Kessel.

The draft, development, trades, free agency.

Trading Kadri also helps this team bottom feed and get assets back. Do we do that to now since hes not "the guy"?
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
The Leafs have way more bigger holes to fill than the hole Kessel fills. Acquiring a player like Kessel down the line is a lot easier than it is acquiring the franchise player they so desperately need. As many other teams have done before, they acquire Kessel type players as one of the last pieces to the puzzle, not the first.
- Two_For_Truth


So a guy who is capable of scoring more than 30 goals regularly, and is improving from one year to the next, is easy to acquire?
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
And since you dodged the question yesterday, I'll ask you again, where are they going to get "the guy"?

Trading Kessel is the solution. It gives the Leafs at least a top prospect and a 1st round pick plus allows them to bottom feed and draft really high a least once or twice to get the guy they really need.

- Two_For_Truth



You are a chooch........ if you know any Italian, then you know what that is.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jan 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
Care to define this?

All championship teams over the course of history have had at least one guy who is really, really good.

What does "built around" mean?

Did the Red Wings put a picture of Yzerman up on a screen, and then tell all their scouts to start thinking about a 3rd line centre who they could get who would best mesh with Yzerman?

Was Lidstrom drafted in the fourth round specifically to compliment Yzmerman's characteristics?

The Red Wings had Yzerman. Then they added as many great players as they could, as often as they could.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yzerman was there from day one of the process of turning a horrid franchise into a dynasty. So yes, the team was built around him. He was the constant that the team always revolved around. When they found problems in his game, they got Scotty Bowman to help him fix it. He was the captain. He was the leader. He was the point producer. He was the focal point of the franchise. I don't know how much simpler it can get than that.

Look at the Leafs with Sundin. Everything they did revolved around him. He was the captain. He was the leader. He was what they team always had to depend on. Did they win? No. But that's because they didn't pay enough attention to rebuilding and setting up the right pieces prior to making playoff runs.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jan 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
Thanks Nathan MacKinnon will be a 100 point player in 3-4 years, Jonathan Drouin is good, but i don't see his game being as effective in the NHL. still good, but i wouldn't draft him top 5 and he probably will go top 5. if we could draft MacKinnon we wouldn't worry about who we're building this team around
- ky678468

ok ok, we get 1st and 2nd overall, draft mackinnon and jones.

heh, a guy can dream right?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
The Leafs have way more bigger holes to fill than the hole Kessel fills. Acquiring a player like Kessel down the line is a lot easier than it is acquiring the franchise player they so desperately need. As many other teams have done before, they acquire Kessel type players as one of the last pieces to the puzzle, not the first.
- Two_For_Truth


thats true, but if you cant get that franchise player, what do you do? you get the next best thing so that perhaps down the road someone will offer you a great package or number of picks for that player...kessel is super young, and hes also super talented.

what we gave up for kessel means jack poop at this point. what we do with him from here means everything. keeping him isnt the worst thing...push comes to shove, if we can land that #1 C or if Kadri keeps getting better and better, who knows, maybe the leafs already have that player in the system...

but then, that would be thinking positive, and unless you've taken some pills today, we know that wont be happening.

so that being said, go leafs go. - and kessel will stay a leaf, and we will find our way over time, and everything will be fine in leaf nation.

doesnt that just make you want to puke UGly?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
No but they drafted Yzerman 4th overall and locked him up for his entire career. Subsequent frachise players like Federov and Lidstrom they were more lucky in obtaining.

How good were they before they drafted Yzerman and kept him as that centrepiece? How did that strategy work out?

- 1979AD

So you get as much talent as you can, and then you hang on to it.

And Yzerman is a pretty good example, because for years, Red Wings fans wanted to trade the guy and start over.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
How is acquiring Kessel a step forward? You know what's two steps forward? Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Please, keep telling me about moving forward.
- Conquest


We're talking about what to do now. Not what to do with this flux capacitor and de lorean we have at our disposal.
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