Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Impaired driving. He was 17 so details weren't released. - AdamFrench
So what - he was charged, but didn't do time?
Is he a free man now, able to be drafted? Cross borders?
Are these all questions you can't answer because he was a minor?
Inquiring minds want to know! |
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Its sad when even a Hab's fan can see the obvious but Leaf nation can't - faceto27
Look, most guys on here are only saying to move Kessel if it appears he won't re-sign here long term. (i.e. let's not get Bosh'ed).
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Arctic_AARDVARK
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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At times I was a lot more impressed with Drouin than Mackinnon during the WJC's. Then again that is a very small sample size. - markmark
MacKinnon didn't get nearly enough playing time to show what he's got. Drouin would be nice too. We'd have to trade Kessel for a center then |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Look, most guys on here are only saying to move Kessel if it appears he won't re-sign here long term. (i.e. let's not get Bosh'ed). - Domidives
Well, that makes sense. Obviously. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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At times I was a lot more impressed with Drouin than Mackinnon during the WJC's. Then again that is a very small sample size. - markmark
At times? Drouin was playing 1st/2nd line, MacKinnon 4th line.
Mackinnon looked like a fish out of water except for a couple of shifts. Nerves probably or trying to hard... but Druin really made the most of the opportunity and his stock shot way up - much like Eberle did, though he had already been drafted at the time.
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billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: HEAVEN Joined: 09.27.2011
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Jesse Spector @jessespector
Important to #LuongoWatch. RT @BradZiemer: Goalie Eddie Lack out six months after hip surgery. #Canucks - faceto27
looks like we have to include scrivens in the Komiserek deal then eh? |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Or he could be the next Alexandre Daigle - faceto27
one in a million chance... |
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At times I was a lot more impressed with Drouin than Mackinnon during the WJC's. Then again that is a very small sample size. - markmark
Media spin due to the whole Cole Harbour thing |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I see both pretty often, and I have to say I find Drouin more impressive. - Pecafan Fan
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I have always stood by Kessel as being the best individual in that trade with BOS. Doesn't mean he's worth the sum of what we gave up.
What we really need to do is look at what Kessel can contribute to this team. Over the previous 3 seasons, he has, on his own, produced enough points to vindicate his reputation. Nobody doubts he is one of the best snipers in the game. In fact I can only think of a few players with a quicker release.
The problem is that despite him doing as much as we could expect of him, we still have not made the playoffs. That leaves a lot of food for thought to Nonis, a guy who never made the deal to acquire him in the first place.
Nonis has stated he's willing to be patient. And with the situation BB left him(cap situation, drafting and getting Kadri to develop properly in the AHL), he perhaps won't have to go another 3-4 years without playoffs. That said, there are still a few things Nonis can do to ensure that this team has the depth needed to go far.
JVR, Grabs, Kadri and Loops can be the centre of our offence for the next while. In the meantime, I'd like to see this team get one last good kick at the draft can. Kessel alone should be enough to get us a top 3 pick in this year's draft. if we can trade for a top 3 pick and remove Kessel's ability to score our own pick out of the top 5, then I think we'd finally have things going in the right direction - AngryWhiteMale
I don't think a bottom dweller trades a top 3 pick for Kessel.
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13sundin13
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Absolutely not, there's no reason to deal him. He's young, scores 30+ goals a year and is good team player. At this point you add to him and build. Even if they did a full rebuild a la edmonton, there's no reason to deal him. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Just draft the best player in the draft. We only have Rielly as a blue chip prospect, so Jones wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I'd rather see the Leafs draft a center though. Who knows maybe MacKinnon could be the next Sundin. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Daigle was a bust because he was a pansy who played hockey because he was good at it, not because he had a true love for the game. The guy really wanted to be an actor.
As far as the Defence is concered, with Gardiner, Percy, Finn and Blacker all working their way through the system, and the prospect of Dion logging 28 minutes a night for the next half decade, it's lunacy to take a defenceman unless it's Bobby Orr.
We need a centre. And while Mackinnon's no Crosby, he'll fit into that no. 1 role. If we could somehow land Drouin as well, then we'd be set |
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faceto27
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Location: Burke: Best part of today is I Joined: 01.21.2010
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Look, most guys on here are only saying to move Kessel if it appears he won't re-sign here long term. (i.e. let's not get Bosh'ed). - Domidives
Its way too early to even start contemplating it. The prudent move would be to sign him long term for a cap hit between 6-6.5 million per. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Barkov - AdamFrench
I do not see Barkov play. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Media spin due to the whole Cole Harbour thing - stevecarpetman
I doubt it.. So a town can't produce two very good players in a 8 year time frame? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I have always stood by Kessel as being the best individual in that trade with BOS. Doesn't mean he's worth the sum of what we gave up.What we really need to do is look at what Kessel can contribute to this team. Over the previous 3 seasons, he has, on his own, produced enough points to vindicate his reputation. Nobody doubts he is one of the best snipers in the game. In fact I can only think of a few players with a quicker release.
The problem is that despite him doing as much as we could expect of him, we still have not made the playoffs. That leaves a lot of food for thought to Nonis, a guy who never made the deal to acquire him in the first place.
Nonis has stated he's willing to be patient. And with the situation BB left him(cap situation, drafting and getting Kadri to develop properly in the AHL), he perhaps won't have to go another 3-4 years without playoffs. That said, there are still a few things Nonis can do to ensure that this team has the depth needed to go far.
JVR, Grabs, Kadri and Loops can be the centre of our offence for the next while. In the meantime, I'd like to see this team get one last good kick at the draft can. Kessel alone should be enough to get us a top 3 pick in this year's draft. if we can trade for a top 3 pick and remove Kessel's ability to score our own pick out of the top 5, then I think we'd finally have things going in the right direction - AngryWhiteMale
What we gave up is on Burke's rap sheet - not Kessel.
And seeing as how Burkie just got poop-canned, it's time for Leafs fans to quit hanging Seguin and Hamilton around Kessel's neck.
I don't care what we gave up to get him now. It's done. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Barkov - AdamFrench
You know he will be a Habs and it's killing you |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Absolutely not, there's no reason to deal him. He's young, scores 30+ goals a year and is good team player. At this point you add to him and build. Even if they did a full rebuild a la edmonton, there's no reason to deal him. - 13sundin13
What if Kessel doesn't resign? Then what? |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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I have always stood by Kessel as being the best individual in that trade with BOS. Doesn't mean he's worth the sum of what we gave up.
What we really need to do is look at what Kessel can contribute to this team. Over the previous 3 seasons, he has, on his own, produced enough points to vindicate his reputation. Nobody doubts he is one of the best snipers in the game. In fact I can only think of a few players with a quicker release.
The problem is that despite him doing as much as we could expect of him, we still have not made the playoffs. That leaves a lot of food for thought to Nonis, a guy who never made the deal to acquire him in the first place.
Nonis has stated he's willing to be patient. And with the situation BB left him(cap situation, drafting and getting Kadri to develop properly in the AHL), he perhaps won't have to go another 3-4 years without playoffs. That said, there are still a few things Nonis can do to ensure that this team has the depth needed to go far.
JVR, Grabs, Kadri and Loops can be the centre of our offence for the next while. In the meantime, I'd like to see this team get one last good kick at the draft can. Kessel alone should be enough to get us a top 3 pick in this year's draft. if we can trade for a top 3 pick and remove Kessel's ability to score our own pick out of the top 5, then I think we'd finally have things going in the right direction - AngryWhiteMale
why would anyone with a top 3 pick trade it for Kessel, who is UFA next summer and getting a raise?
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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I don't think a bottom dweller trades a top 3 pick for Kessel. - Domidives
Depends.
I know it's a stretch, but if a team like FLA or CBJ is desperate to put bums in the seats then they may take a flyer on it.
There is also the possiblity of 3-way trades in which we get the pick we want and the team losing their 1st overall gets what they want.
It's all hypothetical, and would be a big headache for Nonis, but it can be done |
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faceto27
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Location: Burke: Best part of today is I Joined: 01.21.2010
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one in a million chance... - Arctic_AARDVARK
Hmmmmmmm ......... No
The odds of him busting are alot lower than that. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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What we gave up is on Burke's rap sheet - not Kessel.
And seeing as how Burkie just got poop-canned, it's time for Leafs fans to quit hanging Seguin and Hamilton around Kessel's neck.
I don't care what we gave up to get him now. It's done. - Atomic Wedgie
People who get all worked up about that deal, and are Leaf fans, are still crying that we traded Brad Boyes |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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What we gave up is on Burke's rap sheet - not Kessel.
And seeing as how Burkie just got poop-canned, it's time for Leafs fans to quit hanging Seguin and Hamilton around Kessel's neck.
I don't care what we gave up to get him now. It's done. - Atomic Wedgie
Amen and/or Hallelujah....
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markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.27.2010
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why would anyone with a top 3 pick trade it for Kessel, who is UFA next summer and getting a raise? - Big_Lightnin
Hes on pace for ZERO goals though!!! |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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I doubt it.. So a town can't produce two very good players in a 8 year time frame? - Arctic_AARDVARK
those are the rules...
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