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2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:08 AM ET

- hammarby31

Bingo! I believe that keeping Eric Weinrich might have been the difference that season; it was that close. Bad move by Clarke.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:09 AM ET

Ok so we include playoff points now.. fair enough..

But to say those points have equal value then a series that was tight checking is absurd.

Schenn had 6 points vs the Pens. He was also a -3 in the series that they won and out scored the Pens.

He had 3 points vs the devils. These 3 points to me have more meaning then the first 6.

None the less.. its hilarious to see how stats are used on here. Meaningless when it doesn't support your opinion, and gospel if it does.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:09 AM ET
I knew I'd be seeing that yellow visor before too long.

But seriously, how nice would it have been if Hitchcock could have plugged in Weinrich or even Bundy during those playoffs?

- Jsaquella


it keeps me up at night.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:09 AM ET
Per the beats, Rinaldo is expected to play tonight, skating with Fedotenko & Sestito in the morning skate
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
Per the beats, Rinaldo is expected to play tonight, skating with Fedotenko & Sestito in the morning skate
- Jsaquella


and shelley was being used on defense. cote suite!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
Per the beats, Rinaldo is expected to play tonight, skating with Fedotenko & Sestito in the morning skate
- Jsaquella


So Rinaldo in at the expense of McGinn? Not thrilled with that, rather keep McGinn in there.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
and shelley was being used on defense. cote suite!
- hammarby31


He played a decent game against the Rags. I prefer the younger guys in there though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:13 AM ET
So Rinaldo in at the expense of McGinn? Not thrilled with that, rather keep McGinn in there.
- PLindbergh31


Panaccio just tweeted that they're running 5 lines, and that B. Schenn was skating on two of them.

and your dream is true


20s Tim Panaccio Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Lilja and Gervais look like a pair with Foster odd man out
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
if they can't correct both of these things: lack of discipline, and a poor pk, it will be the death knell of their season. simple as that.
- hammarby31


Absolutely. The PK isn't going to operate at a 65% clip all year, it will improve, how much is the key question.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
So Rinaldo in at the expense of McGinn? Not thrilled with that, rather keep McGinn in there.
- PLindbergh31


Same here. McGinn showed enough promise to take that spot, imo. I realize they probably want more "grit" in for this game, but McGinn is every bit as tough as Rinaldo and will drop them if he needs to. But he's overall smarter on his skates too, while also adding in offensive threat.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
So Rinaldo in at the expense of McGinn? Not thrilled with that, rather keep McGinn in there.
- PLindbergh31



I think that may be that old adage that you don't lose your spot due to an injury. I like what I've seen in McGinn. But Rinaldo can add a spark with his physical play.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
Same here. McGinn showed enough promise to take that spot, imo. I realize they probably want more "grit" in for this game, but McGinn is every bit as tough as Rinaldo and will drop them if he needs to. But he's overall smarter on his skates too, while also adding in offensive threat.
- WarriorHockey21


Looks like Sestito is the odd man out up front, per Panotch
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
Panaccio just tweeted that they're running 5 lines, and that B. Schenn was skating on two of them.

and your dream is true


20s Tim Panaccio Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Lilja and Gervais look like a pair with Foster odd man out

- Jsaquella


Hell of a place for Lilja to make his season debut. Good lord. I would keep Foster in.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think that may be that old adage that you don't lose your spot due to an injury. I like what I've seen in McGinn. But Rinaldo can add a spark with his physical play.
- MJL


See Smith, Alex and Kaepernick, Colin.
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Jones could be the 1st African-American superstar in the league
- psuhockey


Wait, what!? Maybe you've never heard of Jarome Iginla. Heck, Grant Fuhr is a HOFer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Hell of a place for Lilja to make his season debut. Good lord. I would keep Foster in.
- PLindbergh31


Kimmo Timone will spontaneously combust tonight when he plays 43 minutes
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Wait, what!? Maybe you've never heard of Jarome Iginla. Heck, Grant Fuhr is a HOFer.
- jmatchett


Jarome Iginla and Grant Fuhr aren't African-Americans. They're African Canadians
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
Kimmo Timone will spontaneously combust tonight when he plays 43 minutes
- Jsaquella


I think the key tonight, is to get Lilja out there as much as possible against the Gaborik/Nash/Richards line.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think that may be that old adage that you don't lose your spot due to an injury. I like what I've seen in McGinn. But Rinaldo can add a spark with his physical play.
- MJL


I think the better move would be to sit Sestito and put him in, as alluded to above. I do agree Rinaldo adds energy in there, but I also don't think McGinn can sit with how well he's progressing with his game. McGinn can fight lightweights if need be, and Simmonds and Rinaldo will take everything else if need be. So I don't see the need for Sestito in there on this one. (considering he has trouble staying on his skates during a fight anyway)
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
I think the key tonight, is to get Lilja out there as much as possible against the Gaborik/Nash/Richards line.
- PLindbergh31


If only they had waited, and not signed Foster, they could have added Wade Redden.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
His stint here really impressed me. Can't wait to see him at camp next season. I think he's gonna be more than a John Madden 3rd line center type. Then again with Giroux and couturier it'll be tough for him to play higher here.
- JoeRussomanno


I guess I am in a minority, but I still project Coots as a kick a$$ 3rd line center for his career. Not a slight on him either - I just don't see the 2nd line center skill set. As some may have mentioned, may be tougher to fine a good #3 vs. a good #2 center man.

Maybe Schenn will take the #2 job some day. Still think we need to add wingers, but I'll drop this as it is getting repetitive.

Good day all.

Cheers!
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:21 AM ET

None the less.. its hilarious to see how stats are used on here. Meaningless when it doesn't support your opinion, and gospel if it does.

- Flyersgod


Stats don't tell the whole story, much more goes into evaluating players
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
See Smith, Alex and Kaepernick, Colin.
- PLindbergh31



See Football. And nothing is absolute.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 29 @ 11:23 AM ET
So Rinaldo in at the expense of McGinn? Not thrilled with that, rather keep McGinn in there.
- PLindbergh31


Any reason why McGinn and Rinaldo can't play together? Is Sestito that important?

I think it is ok that we have a rotation of 4th line goons - Sestito, Rinaldo, McGinn, etc. Always injuries.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
I think the better move would be to sit Sestito and put him in, as alluded to above. I do agree Rinaldo adds energy in there, but I also don't think McGinn can sit with how well he's progressing with his game. McGinn can fight lightweights if need be, and Simmonds and Rinaldo will take everything else if need be. So I don't see the need for Sestito in there on this one. (considering he has trouble staying on his skates during a fight anyway)
- WarriorHockey21


Flyers have a number crunch, especially in the bottom 6 of forwards. I would personally sit Sestito also. I'm not a big fan of his, but then again I wasn't a big Rinaldo fan either but he grew on me. There's going to be situations where someone is sitting that might not deserve to.
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