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faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
Its a limited NTC/NMC which probably means they wont send him down, and he either gave a list of a bunch of teams he would go to and/or wont go to. They'll have no problems dealing him if it comes to that.
- systemtool



The situation with Kessel is at least a year away where the prospect of trading him would come into play.

Not sure why we are even discussing this.

He's our most valuable asset right now. I'm sure Nonnis will address his situation in the summer time and get an indication if he will resign and if so, what it would take to resign him.

Until then........ chill out folks.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:15 AM ET


You guys know who plays on the Sabres?



Be afraid... Be very afraid.


xxCHRISTOFIRExx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Could Kessel do the Kessel run
Joined: 04.28.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
The situation with Kessel is at least a year away where the prospect of trading him would come into play.

Not sure why we are even discussing this.

He's our most valuable asset right now. I'm sure Nonnis will address his situation in the summer time and get an indication if he will resign and if so, what it would take to resign him.

Until then........ chill out folks.

- faceto27


Agreed, it just frustrates the hell out of me when the ENTIRE day on local sports talk radio is dedicated to discussing this. It's amazing how thick the local media can be.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
You guys know who plays on the Sabres?



Be afraid... Be very afraid.

- robin_steele264

don't worry, they traded Kassian away already.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
don't worry, they traded Kassian away already.
- Feeling Glucky?

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
not really.. after this year the modified NMC comes into effect
- Dozzer

I've been unable to find details of the actual clause, but everyone lists it as "limited."

Judging by other deals, i would suspect that if the Leafs don't make the playoffs this year (which they won't, by the way) that clause will either not come into effect or will be as weak as Phil's backchecking.

In other words, my advice is still fantastic.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
lol!

yeah no kidding! i didnt see the end of the edmonton game last night..

did make me Yak opov do another celebration on the goal at the end?

- big_dion


no clue.. i went to bed early last night lol
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
Agreed, it just frustrates the hell out of me when the ENTIRE day on local sports talk radio is dedicated to discussing this. It's amazing how thick the local media can be.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx



The media needs to generate some kind of story in order for the listeners to tune in. The more people that tune in, the greater the ad revenues.

In other words, they create the noise to increase the bottom line.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
don't worry, they traded Kassian away already.
- Feeling Glucky?


Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
The situation with Kessel is at least a year away where the prospect of trading him would come into play.

Not sure why we are even discussing this.

He's our most valuable asset right now. I'm sure Nonnis will address his situation in the summer time and get an indication if he will resign and if so, what it would take to resign him.

Until then........ chill out folks.

- faceto27



I think he has more value now with a year remaining on his contract + u dont have to deal with his NTC..

One thing for certain Nonis should at least try to find out where Kessel stands in terms of re-signing before the NTC kicks in this summer..

I dont think anyone is in a hurry to trade Phil but if he's not signing than the Leafs have to get full value in return and that might not happen especially if they are limited with the # of teams they can deal with..
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
no clue.. i went to bed early last night lol
- Dozzer




He had a Chinese New Years on the ice after he scored.



faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
I've been unable to find details of the actual clause, but everyone lists it as "limited."

Judging by other deals, i would suspect that if the Leafs don't make the playoffs this year (which they won't, by the way) that clause will either not come into effect or will be as weak as Phil's backchecking.

In other words, my advice is still fantastic.

- Atomic Wedgie



It is limited in the number of teams, not if they make the playoffs or not.

It is only for the one year, because of his RFA status. You cannot give a NTC/NMC on a contract for years that are RFA years. By giving Kessel the 5 year contract they essentially bought one of his UFA years. The last year, the one coming up has a limited NMC clause.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
I think he has more value now with a year remaining on his contract + u dont have to deal with his NTC..

One thing for certain Nonis should at least try to find out where Kessel stands in terms of re-signing before the NTC kicks in this summer..

I dont think anyone is in a hurry to trade Phil but if he's not signing than the Leafs have to get full value in return and that might not happen especially if they are limited with the # of teams they can deal with..

- Fruitcakenipple



I'm going to assume that Nonnis does his due diligence and does just that prior to July 1st.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
I'm going to assume that Nonnis does his due diligence and does just that prior to July 1st.
- faceto27



Ya i think Nonis will find out what his intentions are......My hope would be that he finds out before the April trade deadline....
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590

Mikhail Grigorenko will stay with the #sabres and play against the #leafs tonight.


We are doomed!!

The Sabres will win the cup now.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:30 AM ET
David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590

Mikhail Grigorenko will stay with the #sabres and play against the #leafs tonight.


We are doomed!!

The Sabres will win the cup now.

- faceto27


0 points and minus 1

super rookie indeed
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
Ya i think Nonis will find out what his intentions are......My hope would be that he finds out before the April trade deadline....
- Fruitcakenipple



I can see one particular trading partner for the Leafs at the trade deadline. The Ducks. If the Ducks have not resigned Perry by the trade line, I'm thinking that they would jump at the opportunity to make a deal involving Kessel for Perry. The ducks in my opinion would have to include something else, since he will be a UFA whereas Kessel still has a year left.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
On the good news front.......

Bet the under 5 1/2 in the CBJ/Stars game last night. Good thing I didn't take the Stars in the game.


Cha Ching!!



- faceto27

Dallas (frank)ed me. Then i got (frank)ed by LA scoring in the last minute and winning in a shootout, bad night last night.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:39 AM ET
I can see one particular trading partner for the Leafs at the trade deadline. The Ducks. If the Ducks have not resigned Perry by the trade line, I'm thinking that they would jump at the opportunity to make a deal involving Kessel for Perry. The ducks in my opinion would have to include something else, since he will be a UFA whereas Kessel still has a year left.
- faceto27


I would rather trade Kessel for some picks/prospects and try to sign Perry or Getz as a FA if thats remotely possible
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:41 AM ET
Not a bad prospect pool at all, Reilly will make the team next year, he is the closest to being ready for the LEAFS.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:42 AM ET
I would rather trade Kessel for some picks/prospects and try to sign Perry or Getz as a FA if thats remotely possible
- senstroll



you will not get value........ Rick Nash... Kovalchuck are prime expamples.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:43 AM ET
I would rather trade Kessel for some picks/prospects and try to sign Perry or Getz as a FA if thats remotely possible
- senstroll


I'd rather keep Kessel and sign perry as a UFA. Would be nice to see what kessel could accomplish when he's not responsible for carrying the team.

Banking on UFA signings is a tough way to structure a team though.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:46 AM ET
I can see one particular trading partner for the Leafs at the trade deadline. The Ducks. If the Ducks have not resigned Perry by the trade line, I'm thinking that they would jump at the opportunity to make a deal involving Kessel for Perry. The ducks in my opinion would have to include something else, since he will be a UFA whereas Kessel still has a year left.
- faceto27


"If" they can't get Kessel signed they really should take the opportunity to target a centre. I wonder (hope) if the Avs would have an interest in Kessel. They're deep at centre.

faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:46 AM ET
I'd rather keep Kessel and sign perry as a UFA. Would be nice to see what kessel could accomplish when he's not responsible for carrying the team.

Banking on UFA signings is a tough way to structure a team though.

- joel878



Well he was top 6 in scoring last year.......... going to be pretty tough to improve on that campaign
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
I can see one particular trading partner for the Leafs at the trade deadline. The Ducks. If the Ducks have not resigned Perry by the trade line, I'm thinking that they would jump at the opportunity to make a deal involving Kessel for Perry. The ducks in my opinion would have to include something else, since he will be a UFA whereas Kessel still has a year left.
- faceto27

The only possible way that deal is even considered is if Perry agrees to a contract extension with the Leafs prior to the trade. Which may or may not be legal.
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