I had heard that Subban will get 1.75 this year and then 3 next year, which will increase his qualifying offer...so he did manage to get something out of the holdout, like it matters. He saw Markov putting up points and the Habs winning without him so he flinched
- steponmytoe

I think it was actually a pro-rated 2 million this year and 3.75 million next year.

So yeah, to retain his RFA rights when deal is over, Habs have to offer at 3.75 mil.

It's a good deal for both.

With MDZ, Rangers only have to qualify at 2.55 million to retain his RFA rights.

I had heard that Subban will get 1.75 this year and then 3 next year, which will increase his qualifying offer...so he did manage to get something out of the holdout, like it matters. He saw Markov putting up points and the Habs winning without him so he flinched
- steponmytoe

Your QO is +10% off the last year in the salary? I thought it was 10% increase on the cap #

Your QO is +10% off the last year in the salary? I thought it was 10% increase on the cap #
- mrhattrick27

yeah, that's right, 10%, good call

yeah, that's right, 10%, good call
- jimbro83

But is it off the last year of the contract? That I did not know, I thought it was the cap amount.

But is it off the last year of the contract? That I did not know, I thought it was the cap amount.
- mrhattrick27

it's off the dollar amount of the last year of the deal, that I am sure about

Biron likey will play tonight, per Zipay.

Edit: Zipay now saying it's Lundqvist in net tonight.

game preview blog up later today

I think Rangers would have given Prust 2.5 million a year for two years, not four.

It's obvious they want as much financial flexibility as possible summer of '14.
- jimbro83

I would bet that if the Rangers didn't let Prust get to July 1, they could have signed him for somewhere around $2.1-2.2 million annually over a three year deal. I am not saying that they should have signed him for that amount, but in many ways using what the Habs ultimately paid him as justification for not signing him, kind of ignores the fact that the Rangers probably could have signed him for much less before he was able to see what he would command on the open market. Indeed, I don't have much doubt at all that Prust could have been had prior to July 1 for significantly less than the Habs paid him.

But, I do agree with you, I think the Rangers were really resistant to giving him that third year.

and Lundqvist
- jimbro83

i love hank and all, but he needs to drop his cap hit to like 5 mil on his next contract. if he wants to win so bad he needs to take one for the team

i love hank and all, but he needs to drop his cap hit to like 5 mil on his next contract. if he wants to win so bad he needs to take one for the team
- Mtlca66

I agree, and I think he would be particularly well positioned, given who he is, to make some significant money outside of his Rangers paycheck.

We are worried about the cap and the Ranger UFAs and RFAs due for a raise come the summer of 2013.

Here is some interesting news for the new CBA regarding performance bonuses.

I will also add that the bonus (although we do not know what they cover) for Kreider is .637 million, Miller is .525 million, McIlrath is .887 million, Fasth is .285 million, Lindberg is .15 million and Hrivik is .08 million.

The last two sentences of the new CBA regarding bonuses are key and could help the Rangers with their signings vis a vis the cap ceiling.

From the new CBA:

The following is a list of the performance bonuses that may
be included in a player's contract during his entry level period.
Each bonus is stated in terms of both the category of performance
and the minimum level of performance required for a bonus. The
Player and the Club are free to negotiate and agree upon any
dollar amount to be paid for achieving the minimum or any higher
level to which the Player and Club agree. Bonuses paid under
this provision are outside the cap. No other performance bonuses
except games played bonuses may be included in a player's
contract during his entry level period.

I. General

Final National Hockey League statistics are to be utilized.
No post season challenges to the final statistics will be
entertained.

All bonuses shall apply to regular season games only.

II. League Awards

The following are the only awards or trophies for
which clubs and players may negotiate bonuses: the Hart Memorial
Trophy ("Hart"), the Art Ross Trophy ("Art Ross"), the Vezina
Trophy ("Vezina"), the William Jennings Trophy ("Jennings"), the
Calder Memorial Trophy ("Calder"), the Norris Trophy ("Norris"),
the Lady Byng Memorial Trophy ("Lady Byng"), the Conn Smythe
Trophy ("Conn Smythe"), the Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy
("Masterton"), the Alka Seltzer Plus Award ("Alka Seltzer"), the
Frank J. Selke Trophy ("Selke"),and the King Clancy Memorial
Trophy ("Clancy").

A. A player may be awarded a bonus for finishing in the
top ten in balloting for the Hart, Art Ross, Norris, Vezina,
Selke and the Alka Seltzer.

B. A player may be awarded a bonus for finishing in the
top five only in balloting for the Calder and the Lady Byng.

C. A player may be awarded a bonus solely for winning the
Conn Smythe, Clancy, Masterton, and Jennings.

D. In the event that the National Hockey League creates
additional award(s) of like stature in the future, Clubs may
award bonuses to players in connection therewith.

E. A player may be awarded a bonus for being named to the
official NHL All-Star Team at the conclusion of each season.
Such a bonus may be awarded for selection to the First or Second
Team only.

F. A player may be awarded a bonus for being named to the
NHL All-Rookie Team.

G. A player may be awarded a bonus for being selected to
play in the NHL All-Star Game.

III. Individual Bonuses

A. Forwards

1. Ice Time. Player must be in top nine forwards on club.

2. Goals Scored: 20 Goal Minimum

3. Assists Scored: 35 Assist Minimum

4. Total Points Scored: 60 Point Minimum

5. Plus-Minus Rating: Plus 10 Minimum. A non-playoff
club may award a bonus to a forward in the top three forwards on
the club in Plus-Minus (no minimum required).

6. Team Penalty Killing Rating. Player must be on one of
the penalty killing units.
Minimum top 10 in NHL.*

7. Team Power Play Rating. Player must be on one of the
power play units.
Minimum top 10 in NHL*

8. Points Per Game. Minimum of Forty-Two (42) Games
Played. Minimum .73 Points Per Game

9. Power Play Goals
Minimum 5 Goals

10. Short-Handed Goals
Minimum 3 Goals

11. Game-Winning Goals
Minimum 4 Goals

* In the event the NHL expands, this number shall increase by
one for each two clubs added.

B. Defensemen

1. Ice Time. Player must be in top four defensemen on
club.

2. Goals Scored: 10 Goal Minimum

3. Assists Scored: 25 Assist Minimum

4. Total Points Scored: 40 Point Minimum

5. Plus-Minus Rating: Plus 10 Minimum. A non-playoff
club may award a bonus to a defenseman in the top three
defensemen on the club in Plus-Minus (no minimum
required).

6. Team Penalty Killing Rating. Player must be on one of
the power play units.
Minimum top 10 in NHL.*

7. Team Power Play Rating. Player must be on one of the
power play units.
Minimum top 10 in NHL.*

8. Points Per Game. Minimum of forty-two (42) games
played. Minimum .73 points per game.

9. Power Play Goals
Minimum 3 Goals

10. Short-Handed Goals
Minimum 2 Goals

11. Game-Winning Goals
Minimum 3 Goals

* In the event the NHL expands, this number shall increase by
one for each two clubs added.

C. Goaltenders

1. Minutes Played: Minimum 1800 Minutes.

2. Goals Against Average (25 Game Minimum, 20 Minute
Minimum*)

3.00 - 3.25 (.890 SVPCTG required)
Minimum 2.99 or Below (no minimum SVPCTG required)

3. Save Percentage (25 Game Minimum, 20 Minute Minimum*)

Minimum .890 or greater

4. Wins (20 Minute Minimum*)

5. Shutouts (40 minute minimum*). Club must record a
shutout in the game.

Minimum 4 Shutouts

* If goaltender is replaced for an extra attacker, those minutes
shall count.

D. Stanley Cup Championship

A club may award a personal bonus to a player in the event that
the Club wins the Stanley Cup championship. No bonuses may be
awarded for any other playoff success. No club may award a bonus
to a player for the club's regular season finish position.
Player must play in one-half of Club's games in the playoffs in
the year Club wins the Stanley Cup. If there is an odd number of
games played, Player will have to play in the lesser number of
games. For example, if there are 21 games played, Player must
play in 10 games.

E. League-Ranking Bonuses

1. Skaters: A club may award a bonus if the player
finishes in the top 15 in the League in Goals, Assists, Points or
Plus-Minus.

2. Goaltenders: A club may award a bonus if the player
finishes in the top 10 in the League in Goals Against Average,
Save Percentage.

F. Education

Clubs may reimburse players for reasonable educational
expenses actually incurred (proof of payment must be submitted)
up to a maximum of $5,000 annually in native currency for
tuition, books and fees in connection with a player's continuing
education at an accredited university or college. Proof of a
passing grade must be submitted.

All such payments are non-cap dollars.

Any payments not in conformity with this section, including
without limitation any cash payment earmarked for education, are
cap dollars, and count against the Entry Level salary cap.

G. Travel

Clubs may agree to pay the travel (airfare, accommodation,
and game tickets) for a player's parents only to watch his first
NHL game. If this is not practical, clubs may bring a player's
parents in for a different game that season. Such expenses may
be paid on only one occasion for a player in the Entry Level
system.

All such payments are non-cap dollars.

Any payments not in conformity with this section are cap
dollars, and count against the Entry Level salary cap.

Love ya downeaster, but that post is just too freaking long to quote.

http://snyrangersblog.com...rs-scouting-swiss-scorer/



I hate this, and it's not just the Rangers doing it. Seems like people are always trying to find the next Marty St. Louis. How many times will teams do this and yet fail to realize it rarely works out.

That bonus stuff is nuts... The cap needs to (frank)ing go up! (frank) Bettman!

http://snyrangersblog.com/joel-vermin/buzz-rangers-scouting-swiss-scorer/



I hate this, and it's not just the Rangers doing it. Seems like people are always trying to find the next Marty St. Louis. How many times will teams do this and yet fail to realize it rarely works out.
- tomburton99

Its not like hes Brunner of the wings. The guy is 20 years old and therefore a prospect so I like it. Thats a different story than trying to find these "older" guys. Technically this guy would of been drafted the same year as JT Miller.

Its not like hes Brunner of the wings. The guy is 20 years old and therefore a prospect so I like it. Thats a different story than trying to find these "older" guys. Technically this guy would of been drafted the same year as JT Miller.
- mrhattrick27

Vermin is averaging .78 points per game in the Swiss league. Miller is is averaging .77 points per game in the AHL. Miller is playing against guys who have spent time in the NHL. IDK, i just don't want the rangers to waste a contract on guy that probably won't be an impact player. I want the Rangers to sign the kids they drafted, kids like Skjei and Nieves.

Vermin is averaging .78 points per game in the Swiss league. Miller is is averaging .77 points per game in the AHL. Miller is playing against guys who have spent time in the NHL. IDK, i just don't want the rangers to waste a contract on guy that probably won't be an impact player. I want the Rangers to sign the kids they drafted, kids like Skjei and Nieves.
- tomburton99

I don't mind it too much. Dan Girardi was an undrafted free agent, and he worked out pretty good for the Rangers. I agree that it is not often these things work out, but if you have the contract space, there really isn't too much downside. I am pretty sure that a guy like Nieves is at least two years away from signing a pro contract with the Rangers. He isn't even close right now.

http://snyrangersblog.com/joel-vermin/buzz-rangers-scouting-swiss-scorer/



I hate this, and it's not just the Rangers doing it. Seems like people are always trying to find the next Marty St. Louis. How many times will teams do this and yet fail to realize it rarely works out.
- tomburton99

Zuc was more along those lines of a Marty ST. Louis type...a 5'10" scorer in the Swiss league is not a bad option to explore.

bickel in as the 6th d?

I don't mind it too much. Dan Girardi was an undrafted free agent, and he worked out pretty good for the Rangers. I agree that it is not often these things work out, but if you have the contract space, there really isn't too much downside. I am pretty sure that a guy like Nieves is at least two years away from signing a pro contract with the Rangers. He isn't even close right now.
- Pete V

I know the rangers have had great success with later round picks and some undrafted guys. Girardi really is an exception because of his work ethic and toughness.

bickel in as the 6th d?
- MeltingPlastic

Sestito and Rinaldo are in for Philly, kinda expected Bickel to play.

Sestito and Rinaldo are in for Philly, kinda expected Bickel to play.
- tomburton99

Suck & suckier.

Suck & suckier.
- B2B76

people could say that about rupp and bickel too. Thank newbury is back with the whale.

Suck & suckier.
- B2B76

the two of them avg 6:00 per game

Ididn't realize Ochocinco ended up in PHX. Got his first shuout last night.