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MeanestOfTimes
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 03.19.2012

Jan 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
What would you have done? Let him come to amp unhappy or get what you can? Not saying there is a right or wrong answer just curious.

I think he coulda asked for our 2014 First and make it conditional upon us winning the cup in the next 2 seasons that it goes up from a second to that first.

- mrhattrick27


Just a random general question, does anyone know the parameters around conditional picks, and if there are any actual guidelines as to what the conditions can be based on? Just thinking now, but I would think these same terms would apply to veteran conditional bonus' in contracts..
AlexanderScharf
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.24.2007

Jan 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
Arty was promoted to the top line in Columbus, leaving Dubinsky behind on the 2nd line.

Not saying much considering the talent on that team, but I am happy for the guy. Best player we gave up in the Nash deal IMO.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
Arty was promoted to the top line in Columbus, leaving Dubinsky behind on the 2nd line.

Not saying much considering the talent on that team, but I am happy for the guy. Best player we gave up in the Nash deal IMO.

- Rags2Riches

I still think Erixon has a bright future...only time will tell
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 28 @ 7:40 PM ET
Subban signs, two years, $5.75 mil total, slightly above MDZ for AAV per season
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 28 @ 7:46 PM ET
Subban signs, two years, $5.75 mil total, slightly above MDZ for AAV per season
- airjan23

So PK Subban held out for that? Steal for the Habs. Makes this whole process seem ridiculous.
AlexanderScharf
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.24.2007

Jan 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
So PK Subban held out for that? Steal for the Habs. Makes this whole process seem ridiculous.
- TPC

Simple fact of the matter is that RFAs have no leverage and will never find a ton of success holding out unless the GM gets desperate.
MeanestOfTimes
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 03.19.2012

Jan 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
Subban signs, two years, $5.75 mil total, slightly above MDZ for AAV per season
- airjan23


Would love to see the Habs fans reactions who felt that a $5mil yearly salary min would be warranted..just not a proven player in my opinion, and the off-ice issues this early in his career would definitely create concern for me going further with his next contract
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:01 PM ET
Subban signs, two years, $5.75 mil total, slightly above MDZ for AAV per season
- airjan23

Thanks for Prust.... Again... He is worth every (frank)ing cent. Makes a great baby sitter for the two Gallys....
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:02 PM ET
Simple fact of the matter is that RFAs have no leverage and will never find a ton of success holding out unless the GM gets desperate.
- Rags2Riches

He took his bridge contract like Price and Max Pacs did, he will get paid, and long term, when and if he proves he is worth it...
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
He took his bridge contract like Price and Max Pacs did, he will get paid, and long term, when and if he proves he is worth it...
- ShootingSemin

ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM ET

- tomburton99

The other two got paid, and long term....
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 28 @ 10:26 PM ET
Thanks for Prust.... Again... He is worth every (frank)ing cent. Makes a great baby sitter for the two Gallys....
- ShootingSemin

None of us wanted Prust to go, but at $2.5 mil a year for four years, he was above what the Rangers could afford or were willing to pay given current and future contracts.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jan 29 @ 5:34 AM ET
Thanks for Prust.... Again... He is worth every (frank)ing cent. Makes a great baby sitter for the two Gallys....
- ShootingSemin

Don't know why you need to keep posting the same thing in here over & over again. And like Jan said, we all loved him & would have brought him back in a heartbeat but Montreal had to go & severly overpay him.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 7:57 AM ET
MDZ got 2.55 million a year.

Subban got 2.85 million a year.

The Capitals gave John Carlson 3.967 million a year?

Hello, which of these is not like the other?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jan 29 @ 8:32 AM ET
MDZ got 2.55 million a year.

Subban got 2.85 million a year.

The Capitals gave John Carlson 3.967 million a year?

Hello, which of these is not like the other?

- jimbro83


Not quite sure how much sense it made for Buffalo to give Tyler Myers $5.5 million a year over a 7-8 year term either.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:11 AM ET
Not quite sure how much sense it made for Buffalo to give Tyler Myers $5.5 million a year over a 7-8 year term either.
- Pete V


I know its money. But if your Myers do you even want to sign that contract? I mean he's a good young player who now has a load of pressure and critics all because of his pricetag. Is it really worth it when it could affect your game and career?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:18 AM ET
I know its money. But if your Myers do you even want to sign that contract? I mean he's a good young player who now has a load of pressure and critics all because of his pricetag. Is it really worth it when it could affect your game and career?
- mrhattrick27

And i know for a fact that his game has gone south every year since signing that deal. Sabre fans are not happy with him.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
And i know for a fact that his game has gone south every year since signing that deal. Sabre fans are not happy with him.
- tomburton99


It's too much of a burden. I think that hurt Redden, and Gomez, and Drury too. You try and do too much outside your game to be a big time player and prove your worth the salary.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:44 AM ET
It's too much of a burden. I think that hurt Redden, and Gomez, and Drury too. You try and do too much outside your game to be a big time player and prove your worth the salary.
- mrhattrick27

I just had this discussion last night. Other than when Myers got obliterated by Callahan, when was the last time you saw Myers get mad a had use his strength to his advantage? He needs to bulk up and develope a mean streak.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:53 AM ET
None of us wanted Prust to go, but at $2.5 mil a year for four years, he was above what the Rangers could afford or were willing to pay given current and future contracts.
- airjan23


I think Rangers would have given Prust 2.5 million a year for two years, not four.

It's obvious they want as much financial flexibility as possible summer of '14.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:56 AM ET
I think Rangers would have given Prust 2.5 million a year for two years, not four.

It's obvious they want as much financial flexibility as possible summer of '14.

- jimbro83

got leave as much money on the table for Malkin.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:57 AM ET
got leave as much money on the table for Malkin.
- tomburton99


and Lundqvist
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:05 AM ET
and Lundqvist
- jimbro83

i know, i was just jokinhg. Lundqvist, Callahan and Girardi are all set to hit the UFA market that summer.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:06 AM ET
i know, i was just jokinhg. Lundqvist, Callahan and Girardi are all set to hit the UFA market that summer.
- tomburton99


hopefully cap goes up by then
steponmytoe
New York Rangers
Location: Willy Park, NY
Joined: 12.15.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
MDZ got 2.55 million a year.

Subban got 2.85 million a year.

The Capitals gave John Carlson 3.967 million a year?

Hello, which of these is not like the other?

- jimbro83


I had heard that Subban will get 1.75 this year and then 3 next year, which will increase his qualifying offer...so he did manage to get something out of the holdout, like it matters. He saw Markov putting up points and the Habs winning without him so he flinched
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