Pretty bummed about this Arnott thing. We need 1 more depth forward. Yes, you give Moore a call and just see where he is at. What happened is terrible, and different people greive and handle those emotions in different ways. (See Andy Reid). Maybe throwing himself into the game of hockey would be a help to him? You just don't know so it's worth asking him what he wants.

Tortorella showed class by texting Redden to wish him well in his attempt to resurrect his NHL career. He just didn't fit into what Torts wants, don't forget Renney was coach so Redden's contract became an albatross when it came time to rebuild this team in the way Torts wanted. I don't know what you're trying to get at, you should be thanking the Rangers, the Blues have been helped out in the short term anyways and we get much needed cap relief beginning next season...

As far as your Nash shots, if you are an NHL Center Ice subscriber, take the time to watch Nash play, once tyhe goals start piling up to add to everything else this guys does, that $6 million+ the NYR are paying him is going to look like a steal. Gaborik has 5 goals this season just b/c he is playing opposite, he is big, fast, a bastard 1 on 1, he defends, gets in lanes, blocks shots, I had no idea he was so complete...
- Blueshirts4ever

Gaborik is pretty (frank)ing good in his own right. I don't think the guy gets enough credit in NY (people talking about buying him out ). He put up 40 goals before Richards and Nash were here. Put up 40 again last year, and will put up the equivalent of 40 again this year. The guy is a great goal scorer. Period.

Doesn't matter when we can get your team to pay someone 6million+ dollars to play for us, then have him score as much as the guy you're paying even more to play for you.
- Antilles

I hope the Blues move to Saskatoon. Again.

Pretty bummed about this Arnott thing. We need 1 more depth forward. Yes, you give Moore a call and just see where he is at. What happened is terrible, and different people greive and handle those emotions in different ways. (See Andy Reid). Maybe throwing himself into the game of hockey would be a help to him? You just don't know so it's worth asking him what he wants.
- mrhattrick27

definitely bummed, but we need guys healthy enough to still be playing in June, it's good they found out.

Gaborik is pretty (frank)ing good in his own right. I don't think the guy gets enough credit in NY (people talking about buying him out ). He put up 40 goals before Richards and Nash were here. Put up 40 again last year, and will put up the equivalent of 40 again this year. The guy is a great goal scorer. Period.
- mrhattrick27

I wasn't questioning that one bit, I agree with that and Nash will benefit statistically playing opposite Gaborik too, I was just trying to point out that Nash's value goes beyond just the one goal, these hacks look at a stat sheet and think he isn't performing...

I wasn't questioning that one bit, I agree with that and Nash will benefit statistically playing opposite Gaborik too, I was just trying to point out that Nash's value goes beyond just the one goal, these hacks look at a stat sheet and think he isn't performing...
- Blueshirts4ever

Yea I didnt realize how good Nash really is. I am realyl happy him and Gabby have chemistry as we know in the past that doesn't always work out.

Yea I didnt realize how good Nash really is. I am realyl happy him and Gabby have chemistry as we know in the past that doesn't always work out.
- mrhattrick27

I actually thought to myself the other night that he is better than Messier. I shook the thought out of my head quickly, but it entered my head for a moment.

I actually thought to myself the other night that he is better than Messier. I shook the thought out of my head quickly, but it entered my head for a moment.
- jimbro83

Not on that level for sure but when he gets the puck in the offensive zone or starts to lug it from his own end I start to get giddy bc you just expect something positive is going to happen, I think once the puck starts going in his confidence will soar. I remember when Graves was knocking on the door when he first got to NY and the puck wasn't going in, but once it did his number wound up in the rafters at MSG....not saying #61 will be hanging but you know what I mean...

As far as your Nash shots, if you are an NHL Center Ice subscriber, take the time to watch Nash play, once tyhe goals start piling up to add to everything else this guys does, that $6 million+ the NYR are paying him is going to look like a steal. Gaborik has 5 goals this season just b/c he is playing opposite, he is big, fast, a bastard 1 on 1, he defends, gets in lanes, blocks shots, I had no idea he was so complete...
- Blueshirts4ever

Thank you. My favourite player and nobody wanted to listen to this argument when he was in CBJ.

Thank you. My favourite player and nobody wanted to listen to this argument when he was in CBJ.
- dawgzhouse

And can understand why Howson was holding out for our very best prospects, Sather just won the staring contest knowing Nash was only going to wave his no trade for one or two teams...

And can understand why Howson was holding out for our very best prospects, Sather just won the staring contest knowing Nash was only going to wave his no trade for one or two teams...
- Blueshirts4ever

Howson went for quantity over quality of return so he could point and say "look at all the stuff I got for Nash." Buffoon.

Howson went for quantity over quality of return so he could point and say "look at all the stuff I got for Nash." Buffoon.
- dawgzhouse

What would you have done? Let him come to amp unhappy or get what you can? Not saying there is a right or wrong answer just curious.

I think he coulda asked for our 2014 First and make it conditional upon us winning the cup in the next 2 seasons that it goes up from a second to that first.

Howson went for quantity over quality of return so he could point and say "look at all the stuff I got for Nash." Buffoon.
- dawgzhouse

He wasn't going to do any better, he had no leverage and thats the evil of the NTC...but I am not crying in my beer, unless those are joyful tears in the Stanley Cup...

Petr Sykora signs with SC Bern, another name gone

Petr Sykora signs with SC Bern, another name gone
- airjan23

Who does that leave?? Langkow? Who else?? The trade market is going to be interesting come deadline time, you would think with the season so short not as many teams will be out but, with the cap coming down next year, teams have interesting decisions to make...

What would you have done? Let him come to amp unhappy or get what you can? Not saying there is a right or wrong answer just curious.

I think he coulda asked for our 2014 First and make it conditional upon us winning the cup in the next 2 seasons that it goes up from a second to that first.
- mrhattrick27

First, I wouldn't have disclosed that he had asked for a trade. Howson should have been fired over that one.

Second, I wouldn't have bothered with the spare parts. At the time I probably would have offered to take Redden knowing his salary would come off the books in two years. It's not like CBJ didn't need the d-help. In doing that it may have provided a bit stronger negotiating position to get Stepan or Kreider. I'll get blasted now for this...

First, I wouldn't have disclosed that he had asked for a trade. Howson should have been fired over that one.

Second, I wouldn't have bothered with the spare parts. At the time I probably would have offered to take Redden knowing his salary would come off the books in two years. It's not like CBJ didn't need the d-help. In doing that it may have provided a bit stronger negotiating position to get Stepan or Kreider. I'll get blasted now for this...
- dawgzhouse

Actually that's not a bad thought. Honestly though, I doubt that would have swayed Slats since he had zero issue buying him out, paying the money and absorbing the cap hit this year on Redden. Columbus' willingness to take Redden wouldn't have prompted Slats to include Step or Kreider in my opinion.

He wasn't going to do any better, he had no leverage and thats the evil of the NTC...but I am not crying in my beer, unless those are joyful tears in the Stanley Cup...
- Blueshirts4ever

You're right. He had little leverage.

Actually that's not a bad thought. Honestly though, I doubt that would have swayed Slats since he had zero issue buying him out, paying the money and absorbing the cap hit this year on Redden. Columbus' willingness to take Redden wouldn't have prompted Slats to include Step or Kreider in my opinion.
- gkmkiller

Probably not but balking at a trade and then accepting it months later is pathetic. It may have been worth a shot.

I find it hard to believe that a player with upside, prospect, whatever, wouldn't have been available for Nash with a little creative thinking.

I probably just would have kept repeating "Stepan".

Slats: Hi Scott!
Howson: Stepan
Slats: Calling about Rick
Howson: Stepan
Slats: What about Dubi and some junk?
Howson: Stepan

just read the following excerpt from the Montreal Gazette:

"....Subban, who is expected to meet Monday with his agent Don Meehan in Toronto after a weekend reflecting on an alleged two-year offer of $2.2 and $2.9 million.

Some will argue that pact, if true, is paltry, one that undervalues what Subban is worth to the team and much less than what he is seeking.

Those figures would match, to the dollar, the contract recently signed by New York Rangers defenceman Michael Del Zotto, who often is presented as a comparable to Subban.

Which is a few shades of ridiculous, given what is expected of the two defencemen in the overall scope of their teams.



Read more: http://www.montrealgazett.../story.html#ixzz2JIDeA1U5

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I believe that under the current CBA, a team is entitled to retain 50% of a player's cap hit in a trade. I think, although I am not sure, that the Rangers have a little over $3 million in available cap space if Sauer's hit is taken off.

So, my question is this, would anybody, other than me, be interested in Tim Connolly at $2,375,000 for the this year, which represents 1/2 of his current hit? This, of course, would limit what the Rangers could do the remainder of the year, unless salary were to go back the other way in any type of deal.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I believe that under the current CBA, a team is entitled to retain 50% of a player's cap hit in a trade. I think, although I am not sure, that the Rangers have a little over $3 million in available cap space if Sauer's hit is taken off.

So, my question is this, would anybody, other than me, be interested in Tim Connolly at $2,375,000 for the this year, which represents 1/2 of his current hit? This, of course, would limit what the Rangers could do the remainder of the year, unless salary were to go back the other way in any type of deal.
- Pete V

Love his speed, but don't know if brings much else.

Probably not but balking at a trade and then accepting it months later is pathetic. It may have been worth a shot.

I find it hard to believe that a player with upside, prospect, whatever, wouldn't have been available for Nash with a little creative thinking.

I probably just would have kept repeating "Stepan".

Slats: Hi Scott!
Howson: Stepan
Slats: Calling about Rick
Howson: Stepan
Slats: What about Dubi and some junk?
Howson: Stepan
- dawgzhouse

I actually thought it wasn't as stupid as it appeared. What did Columbus have to lose at that point? The timing of trading him was irrelevant; it wouldn't have mattered on the ice whether they dealt him in February or July. It didn't hurt to sit on that deal knowing you could make it in a minute then hope someone improves their offer in July after the big name UFA's come off the board. He already painted himself into a corner by speaking out about Nash requesting a trade.

And as for the "junk" Columbus got back, I actually think AA has the most upside in that return for the Jackets depending on that #1 of course. That's just my opinion.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I believe that under the current CBA, a team is entitled to retain 50% of a player's cap hit in a trade. I think, although I am not sure, that the Rangers have a little over $3 million in available cap space if Sauer's hit is taken off.

So, my question is this, would anybody, other than me, be interested in Tim Connolly at $2,375,000 for the this year, which represents 1/2 of his current hit? This, of course, would limit what the Rangers could do the remainder of the year, unless salary were to go back the other way in any type of deal.
- Pete V

Too Injury prone so not worth that cap if he isn't even going to be playing. I just think there are better options and someone can be had for a 3rd rounder.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I believe that under the current CBA, a team is entitled to retain 50% of a player's cap hit in a trade. I think, although I am not sure, that the Rangers have a little over $3 million in available cap space if Sauer's hit is taken off.

So, my question is this, would anybody, other than me, be interested in Tim Connolly at $2,375,000 for the this year, which represents 1/2 of his current hit? This, of course, would limit what the Rangers could do the remainder of the year, unless salary were to go back the other way in any type of deal.
- Pete V

According to Cap Geek the Rangers will be able to add in excess of $7MM in cap hits at the trade deadline assuming no other major moves are made. So even if we took Connolly at this point for the price you suggested, we'd still have around $5MM at the deadline ot make some moves.