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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
Panaccio says source told him Laughton will stick
- Jsaquella


You are late sir.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
You are late sir.
- ob18

Laught
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:20 PM ET
Let's hope not.

Edit: I'm predicting Leighton's first start will come next weekend. Back to back games with Washington and Carolina. He will get one of those games.

- PLindbergh31


with the way the season has started, let's make it the caps
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
I'm a huge Winger fan' myself.


Actually, I'm big into Van Halen, Zeppelin & Pearl Jam. Load of others, too but those are my big 3

- Jsaquella


I like Van Halen. ACDC is a big one of mine.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
That's what I was thinking too. If they are really at $5 million for two years, we can give the 5 @ $25 million offer.

It isn't outrageus, fills a need, and is legit (similar to Benn), It would probably be our 1st round pick I think.

Then if Montreal matches, congrats, they have a great player. We lose nothing.

- DrMidnite


An offer sheet is definitely the way to go for Subban.

I think MTL match at 5M per. Homer would maybe have to overpay a little more; maybe 5.5M-6M per for 7 years (league maximum contract length). We would keep our young guys: Couts, B.Schenn, Read, Simmer, Voracek, Laughton and if MTL don't match we send a 1st - 2nd and a 3rd. If MTL match the offer sheet, PHI just drove up the price for Subban. Win Win for the Flyers.

North of 5M per is overpaid but acquiring a young 23-year-old puck moving D that can play 25min a game and is a +9 (last season) on the worst team in the east (15th) is hard to come by, specially without trading our current assets.

Kimmo's 6.333M cap hit is coming off the books at the end of the season + with Pronger on LTIR that's more than 11M in cap space.

The young core of Giroux (25) - Couts (20)- B. Schenn (21) and Subban (23) looks pretty good to me.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
with the way the season has started, let's make it the caps
- FlyerMike18


They aren't playing well. Bryz is tied with Ovechkin in scoring.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
Good for Laughton. I like what I've seen so far from him. Burning a year of his contract might be a little wasteful, but on the other hand if he's comfortable up on the big club the NHL experience can't hurt.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
They aren't playing well. Bryz is tied with Ovechkin in scoring.
- PLindbergh31

I really can't figure out what's up with OV. He seems so uninspired compared to his 50 goal scoring self.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM ET
They aren't playing well. Bryz is tied with Ovechkin in scoring.
- PLindbergh31


What the hell is up with that team.

I never really believed in Backstrom but they are brutal. They dont have a bad lineup on paper.

Ovechkin really needs new linemates brought on that team to get him going.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM ET
I really can't figure out what's up with OV. He seems so uninspired compared to his 50 goal scoring self.
- BulliesPhan87


He may have run his course in D.C. A change of scenery might be in order.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
I really can't figure out what's up with OV. He seems so uninspired compared to his 50 goal scoring self.
- BulliesPhan87

"Women weaken legs" and he just got engaged methinks.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
He may have run his course in D.C. A change of scenery might be in order.
- PLindbergh31

It's possible. That'd be a pretty huge trade, though. It's just strange that he goes from a force of nature to the relatively pedestrian player he seems now.

Maybe Joe's right, maybe it's the (edit: soon-to-be) wife
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
He may have run his course in D.C. A change of scenery might be in order.
- PLindbergh31


I'd be dealing pretty much everyone excluding him and some of the young kids they have on D.

They have some good prospects as well but the mix is wrong.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
It's possible. That'd be a pretty huge trade, though. It's just strange that he goes from a force of nature to the relatively pedestrian player he seems now.

Maybe Joe's right, maybe it's the (edit: soon-to-be) wife

- BulliesPhan87

Well she is a tennis player prolly taxes his stamina a bit to keep up with her.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
It's possible. That'd be a pretty huge trade, though. It's just strange that he goes from a force of nature to the relatively pedestrian player he seems now.

Maybe Joe's right, maybe it's the (edit: soon-to-be) wife

- BulliesPhan87


Oates is his third coach in a calendar year. He might just be feeling burnt out in Washington.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
Well she is a tennis player prolly taxes his stamina a bit to keep up with her.
- JoeRussomanno


Take your hands out of your pants.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
Well she is a tennis player prolly taxes his stamina a bit to keep up with her.
- JoeRussomanno

You'd think the extra endurance workouts would benefit him on the ice though, no?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
I'd be dealing pretty much everyone excluding him and some of the young kids they have on D.

They have some good prospects as well but the mix is wrong.

- flyer_nutter


Washington you figure could get a hell of a package for OV. It isn't working with him there, perhaps they would be better off trading him and building that way.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
Take your hands out of your pants.


- flyer_nutter

The hands will come out when your camera leaves my lining room.... Then soon after hands will reposition themselves.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
You'd think the extra endurance workouts would benefit him on the ice though, no?
- BulliesPhan87

Not enough time for rest.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
Oates is his third coach in a calendar year. He might just be feeling burnt out in Washington.
- PLindbergh31

After being on such a short leash last year, especially in the playoffs, I could see it. But if the Capitals stick with him, they need that scoring force.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Not enough time for rest.
- JoeRussomanno

Speaking of no time, I should probably get moving. Meant to be out the door twenty minutes ago for an open skate.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:49 PM ET
An offer sheet is definitely the way to go for Subban.

I think MTL match at 5M per. Homer would maybe have to overpay a little more; maybe 5.5M-6M per for 7 years (league maximum contract length). We would keep our young guys: Couts, B.Schenn, Read, Simmer, Voracek, Laughton and if MTL don't match we send a 1st - 2nd and a 3rd. If MTL match the offer sheet, PHI just drove up the price for Subban. Win Win for the Flyers.

North of 5M per is overpaid but acquiring a young 23-year-old puck moving D that can play 25min a game and is a +9 (last season) on the worst team in the east (15th) is hard to come by, specially without trading our current assets.

Kimmo's 6.333M cap hit is coming off the books at the end of the season + with Pronger on LTIR that's more than 11M in cap space.

The young core of Giroux (25) - Couts (20)- B. Schenn (21) and Subban (23) looks pretty good to me.

- Chris48


PROS
- Great skater
- Needed youth on defense
- Tons of "potential"

CONS
- HIGH cap hit
- Long term commitment
- POSSIBLE bad influence in locker room (just rumors right now)
- Would he even be worth 3 draft picks?

Biggest question: Can the Flyers even afford P.K. without trading/waiving someone? (50 man limited reached AND not even a 1M in cap space)
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:49 PM ET
r they keeping the kid up?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
PROS
- Great skater
- Needed youth on defense
- Tons of "potential"

CONS
- HIGH cap hit
- Long term commitment
- POSSIBLE bad influence in locker room (just rumors right now)
- Would he even be worth 3 draft picks?

Biggest question: Can the Flyers even afford P.K. without trading/waiving someone? (50 man limited reached AND not even a 1M in cap space)

- Glak18

you left out elite combo of size, speed power, but that's ok
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