- Flyfreaky

Butt worms?

Exactly. I would even make the argument that he hasn't really shown 4 per type skill yet. But neither has any D on Buffalo this year yet either.
- JCSabs06

Ya, but you can't really tell him he isn't worth 4 when his teammate Thomas Kaberle is making that. I just think its a fair deal. PK can have his audition and not go bankrup making peanuts which he has apparently been offered.

He is too cocky to be a great defenceman. He is always going to do those end to end rushes that work 1 out of 10 times. Sure its fun to watch, but it costs his team.
- cburgess

Is he better than anyone they have now? Do they have anyone, who in 5 years would be as good?

Trade him for Phaneuf.

Ya, but you can't really tell him he isn't worth 4 when his teammate Thomas Kaberle is making that. I just think its a fair deal. PK can have his audition and not go bankrup making peanuts which he has apparently been offered.
- cburgess

MB can always say he inherited that contract and just say he does't deal that way.

It is all about business. Marc controls the bank account of an investor. He makes investments based on a strategy, short and long term. The bridge is his next move, or else a long term such as Pach. PK is certainly looking for more than Pach is going to make so he has no choice to accept the bridge. This isn’t personal, its business, just like the negotiations of the new CBA. He won’t be traded, and if someone offers him a crazy offer sheet, Marc will gladly take the compensation package. It is all about investing.

Ya, but you can't really tell him he isn't worth 4 when his teammate Thomas Kaberle is making that. I just think its a fair deal. PK can have his audition and not go bankrup making peanuts which he has apparently been offered.
- cburgess

Kaberle played a few less games and had 5 less points than Subban last year and Kabs is well past his prime. Is an extra 5 points worth an extra $1M+? Subban hasn't proven he's worth $5M and kudos to Bergevin for letting him sit and not making a deal just for the sake of making a deal. The kid's arrogant and needs to come down to earth, his statement that was released was a joke.

Kaberle played a few less games and had 5 less points than Subban last year and Kabs is well past his prime. Is an extra 5 points worth an extra $1M+? Subban hasn't proven he's worth $5M and kudos to Bergevin for letting him sit and not making a deal just for the sake of making a deal. The kid's arrogant and needs to come down to earth, his statement that was released was a joke.
- PuckingOpinion

players need to stop comparing them to other contracts

The flyers offered sheeted Weber. Why not Subban?
- Deadmau55

Subban is a good defenseman, but he is nowhere near Weber.
If Philly could trade for Subban without giving up Couturier, they would probably make the deal especially now that Mezaros is injured again.

Tyler Myers is twice the player that Subban is. I would say PK is worth 2.75 as I've said all along. This makes sense to me as he is also about 1/3 the player of Doughty.

i'm not sold on 'coots' being the second coming of christ. some people say that years from now they will rename the selke after him, personally i see him as more of a saku koivu-ish potential
- zedniksghost

did you watch the FLyers vs the Rangers last night?
Coots was a beast!
Got the game winning goal, looked awesome on the pk, especially on the 5 on 3 late in the 3rd and he completely shut down Richards.
Oh, and by the way, he is only 19!!

This kid will be the next Guy Carbonneau, but will probably put up better numbers than Carbonneau ever did. He's not going anywhere!

Trade him to St-Louis for Oshiie

And Move on

He isn't the second coming of Bobby Orr, and he still has a long way to go in terms of development. But he was without a doubt the teams #1 D last year, and he put up very decent numbers given what was asked of him, and the overall performance of the team.

People suggesting he shouldn't get more than 3mil are out to lunch when you have players like Hedman and Fowler out there making 4mil. Sure 5mil per might seem a little steep, but it's not outrageous, and they always pay more in Montreal anyways, if for no other reason than the ridiculous taxes.

Tyler Myers is twice the player that Subban is. I would say PK is worth 2.75 as I've said all along. This makes sense to me as he is also about 1/3 the player of Doughty.
- JCSabs06

In terms of height maybe, but statistically speaking there's nothing to back this up. They're actually very comparable in my opinion (again height excluded).

Tyler Myers is twice the player that Subban is. I would say PK is worth 2.75 as I've said all along. This makes sense to me as he is also about 1/3 the player of Doughty.
- JCSabs06

On the power play I'd rather have Subban , and yes he can hit also go on youtube and see him demolish Marchant and coe ....but I agree 5 million is too much , it should be 4 million 2 years,that gives him plenty of time to prouve himself.

To Philly: Subban
To Montreal: Read, Gustafsson, and 2 first round picks (2013 and 2014)

Realistically, the Canadiens are not going to challenge for a cup for at least 2 or 3 years, there are just too many holes to still fill. This deal gives them a nice second line forward who can play all 3 positions up front, a good offensive D prospect and most importantly the chance to add 2 good young players who could help the team in a few years. It will also allow them a lot of room under the cap each of the next 2 years to allow them to make a serious run at any free agent they wish.

MB probably won't get a deal any better than this.

Tyler Myers is twice the player that Subban is. I would say PK is worth 2.75 as I've said all along. This makes sense to me as he is also about 1/3 the player of Doughty.
- JCSabs06

Mike Weber is 1/8 the player Myers is, which is exactly 4/15 better than Subban on odd days during March. However, that said, Sekera has sick trade value.

Is he better than anyone they have now? Do they have anyone, who in 5 years would be as good?

Trade him for Phaneuf.
- Beatle_john

Don't want Habs Cast off anymore (see: Komisarek )

To Philly: Subban
To Montreal: Read, Gustafsson, and 2 first round picks (2013 and 2014)

Realistically, the Canadiens are not going to challenge for a cup for at least 2 or 3 years, there are just too many holes to still fill. This deal gives them a nice second line forward who can play all 3 positions up front, a good offensive D prospect and most importantly the chance to add 2 good young players who could help the team in a few years. It will also allow them a lot of room under the cap each of the next 2 years to allow them to make a serious run at any free agent they wish.

MB probably won't get a deal any better than this.
- BiggE

The way you guys are playing this year that pick could be Seth Jones

Subban is a good defenseman, but he is nowhere near Weber.
If Philly could trade for Subban without giving up Couturier, they would probably make the deal especially now that Mezaros is injured again.
- BiggE

It is not even proven he is a "Good Defenseman". He is not proven. What happens when you give too much credibility based on a single season.... well you get the future capatain of the Leafs.

The way you guys are playing this year that pick could be Seth Jones
- Kuleminator

After only 4 games, I'm not ready to panic. I'm still willing to bet on 2 things: first, the FLyers will make the playoffs this year, and second, they will finish ahead of the Leafs in the standings!!

It is not even proven he is a "Good Defenseman". He is not proven. What happens when you give too much credibility based on a single season.... well you get the future capatain of the Leafs.
- Beatle_john

Phaneuf had several good seasons. Overpaid now, and never should have been Captain but it happens. Like Luongo being named captain. How ridiculous was that?

I think Garrison would be a good example of cashing in on one good seasons worth.

It is not even proven he is a "Good Defenseman". He is not proven. What happens when you give too much credibility based on a single season.... well you get the future capatain of the Leafs.
- Beatle_john

While I agree he still has some proving to do, he has had two good seasons and two good playoff performances. It's not exactly like they've got nothing to go on.

After only 4 games, I'm not ready to panic. I'm still willing to bet on 2 things: first, the FLyers will make the playoffs this year, and second, they will finish ahead of the Leafs in the standings!!

- BiggE

I hope you have deep pockets...

After only 4 games, I'm not ready to panic. I'm still willing to bet on 2 things: first, the FLyers will make the playoffs this year, and second, they will finish ahead of the Leafs in the standings!!

- BiggE

Maybe but still thanks for JVR and i didn't said the leafs will make the playoffs 4 sure i prefer a top prospect 4 now

PHI should offer sheet Subban; 7 years x 5.5M-6M per

I don't think Homer would trade B. Schenn or Couturier for him.

With Mez injured and the D being that slow, he's worth the picks.

Even if overpaid at 5.5M-6M per, Flyers desperately need a speedy puck moving D that can shoot.