Ek can't...
- Flyfreaky

naaah he will just revert to either Luongo ,O'Reilley or Niderreiter

trade.

even though montreal could afford 5+ for 8, he's not that type of player and will never live up to those expectations. trade him now for equal value before he becomes a good player/bad contract guy.
- mftonjes

Either he takes that bridge offer or trade him...

of course they'll sign him for $5 million. will get done within a few weeks. they're just waiting for PK to relent a bit because they're not going to completely bend over for an ass (frank)ing fom a 23-year-old punk who has never scored 40 points.

The flyers offered sheeted Weber. Why not Subban?
- Deadmau55

Because one is not like the other?

This is the new and improved post-CBA Flyers...We only sign old retreads...
- Flyfreaky

Is Knuble in that box with you?

At what point does a holdout become cancerous for the lockerroom. I know its all a business but if i'm a vet in that room, at some point in time I don't want him back with us as he hasn't earned his position there. PK has to realize that the longer he holds out, the more he alienates himself from the team and the harder it becomes to gel with them. I had met PK many years ago when he was probably a Bantam and he had a strong personality then i can only imagine what it is like now. This may spell the end of his time MTL if he doesnt get his act together no matter how good of a player he is.

Is Knuble in that box with you?
- wolfhounds

Maybe...

I'm not sure any team would really be interested.
- jugkope

what? why?

As in that new Lupul contract?
Hope that one pays of....,next year
- Whiskey-Tango

I really though it was a good idea ..... Ur such a d bag

He will get signed. Montreal can't afford to trade him because they need a future no. 1 or no. 2 D, especially a flashy one who sells jerseys and gets fans on their feet.

I really though it was a good idea ..... Ur such a d bag
- The_Vark

I get it now... no suprise why lots of people hate us

I'm thinking they should deal him to the Islanders for a package built around Nino Niederreiter.
- isles10289

Ya that would work? Maybe throw in the Yashin contract as well.

As in that new Lupul contract?
Hope that one pays of....,next year
- Whiskey-Tango

A Vancouver fan talking about contracts is rich.

You guys can forget an offer sheet. Is PK worth $6-7-8 million a year? No he isn't. So what sort of contract will a team offer him? Likely looking at $4-5 million per season which is a contract Montreal is simply going to match. habs want a bridge contract but that doesn;t mean they cannot afford a longer one.

Only way Subban goes to another team via an RFA contract is if that con tract is so ridiculous.

So what sort of package would it take for a fan base who are drawn towards flashy players. Bergevin would have to acquire an absolute super star or else the fan base would turn on him so quickly.

As in that new Lupul contract?
Hope that one pays of....,next year
- Whiskey-Tango

you mean... next year, when that contract actually starts?

You guys can forget an offer sheet. Is PK worth $6-7-8 million a year? No he isn't. So what sort of contract will a team offer him? Likely looking at $4-5 million per season which is a contract Montreal is simply going to match. habs want a bridge contract but that doesn;t mean they cannot afford a longer one.

Only way Subban goes to another team via an RFA contract is if that con tract is so ridiculous.

So what sort of package would it take for a fan base who are drawn towards flashy players. Bergevin would have to acquire an absolute super star or else the fan base would turn on him so quickly.
- willey101

This is the likely scenario as matching RFA's are a great way to get the heat off of the Habs management while pointing fingers at the team who gave the offer sheet...

" to be followed by a big rumor blog later on"

Yeah right Ek!
- KABLOOEY

I smell another Lou rumor blog in the making

I smell another Lou rumor blog in the making

- ALeafsFan4Ever

Good Times!

This is the likely scenario as matching RFA's are a great way to get the heat off of the Habs management while pointing fingers at the team who gave the offer sheet...
- Flyfreaky

I think Bergevin is hoping someone offers him a contract. Pk is a really good player but still has alot to learn. Management just wants him to follow the same path they made with contracts to Plekanec, Higgins, Markov, Gorges, Pacioretty, Price, Eller, Emelin, etc..... 2 year deal coming out of the ELC.

Fact is Habs want him and Subban wants to stay. Eventually someone will cave. My guess is that it is PK who only made $875k in his previous contract, just bought himself a new Ferrari and hasn't had a pay cheque in 8 months

I'm not sure any team would really be interested.
- jugkope

You obviously do not know PK Subban, all 30 teams would love to have him, especially the Flyers!

I think Bergevin is hoping someone offers him a contract. Pk is a really good player but still has alot to learn. Management just wants him to follow the same path they made with contracts to Plekanec, Higgins, Markov, Gorges, Pacioretty, Price, Eller, Emelin, etc..... 2 year deal coming out of the ELC.

Fact is Habs want him and Subban wants to stay. Eventually someone will cave. My guess is that it is PK who only made $875k in his previous contract, just bought himself a new Ferrari and hasn't had a pay cheque in 8 months
- willey101

When another team enters the picture it's easy to point fingers when you have to match...It's a great out for the matching team...

Sign PK or trade him?

I'm not sure I'd do either one at this point.

It's evident that PK wants way to much money, and way to long a term for what he's shown the Canadiens organization. This isn't to say that he doesn't have potential, he has boat loads of that, but for a guy who hasn't yet broken 40 pts as a "franchise" defenceman, who is still a liability in his own zone (lets not forget that Gill played a lot of minutes as an @$$ saver in the past) and draws waaaaay to much attention for his own good in the pressure cooker that is Montreal, he hasn't shown the Canadiens that he deserves top dollar and term.

So, at this point then, what exactly is PK worth? Is he worth a team knocking out 5.5M+ per seaons cap hit, and too lose a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick due to an offer sheet? I'd say highly unlikely, and Marc Bergevin knows this. So do the other General managers in the league. But still, this is what PK wants, and frankly he's not going to get it, anywhere.

Then what is to be done? Absolutetly nothing. As far as I'm concerned, there is much more pressure on the Subban camp then there is on Bergevin. He's an RFA, and therefore property of the Canadiens until the age of 27. He claims he wants to play for the Canadiens, and therefore he wants to play in the NHL, so I would rule out the KHL being a threat (although, it could come to that). Other teams can't afford to have him via offer sheet, and to be honest, if they could, let him go. PK himself was a 2nd round pick so if he signs an offer sheet thats worth 5.05M+ a year, your getting a new 2nd, plus a 1st and a 3rd. Thats loads of potential for a team that, even though may (and I stress MAY) challenge for a playoff spot, wont realistically do any damage.

If he signs an offer sheet for less then the mentioned 5.05M per, then one has to question, how much of a gap in dollars is actually between him and the Canadiens? If he claims to want to play in Montreal, then would he accept a 5M offer sheet? and if its less then 5M, then is it worth Bergevin to sign him? More then likely yes. I would imagine that the offer as it stands is probably between 4-4.5 for 2 or 3 years. So, let Subban sit. When he comes to terms with the fact he absolutely will not get what he's asking for, he will sign to play. Hands down. It will hurt him more potentially to hold out for the remainder of this season and next and so on, then to sign for less, prove your worth, then hit the big time.

In the time being though, you can bet that Bergevin is on the phones, seeing what PK is worth. And if the right deal came along, then pull the trigger, and get rid of the headache.

But, again, for the time being, do nothing. Time will tell what happens.

My 2 cents.

8 years 52 million dollars with a full NTC/NMC
- watsonnostaw

Sounds good to me, probably the reason he gets offer sheeted to Philly! Yes!!!

Sign PK or trade him?

I'm not sure I'd do either one at this point.

It's evident that PK wants way to much money, and way to long a term for what he's shown the Canadiens organization. This isn't to say that he doesn't have potential, he has boat loads of that, but for a guy who hasn't yet broken 40 pts as a "franchise" defenceman, who is still a liability in his own zone (lets not forget that Gill played a lot of minutes as an @$$ saver in the past) and draws waaaaay to much attention for his own good in the pressure cooker that is Montreal, he hasn't shown the Canadiens that he deserves top dollar and term.

So, at this point then, what exactly is PK worth? Is he worth a team knocking out 5.5M+ per seaons cap hit, and too lose a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick due to an offer sheet? I'd say highly unlikely, and Marc Bergevin knows this. So do the other General managers in the league. But still, this is what PK wants, and frankly he's not going to get it, anywhere.

Then what is to be done? Absolutetly nothing. As far as I'm concerned, there is much more pressure on the Subban camp then there is on Bergevin. He's an RFA, and therefore property of the Canadiens until the age of 27. He claims he wants to play for the Canadiens, and therefore he wants to play in the NHL, so I would rule out the KHL being a threat (although, it could come to that). Other teams can't afford to have him via offer sheet, and to be honest, if they could, let him go. PK himself was a 2nd round pick so if he signs and offer sheet thats worth 5.05M+ a year, your getting a new 2nd, plus a 1st and a 3rd. Thats loads of potential for a team that, even though may (and I stress MAY) challenge for a playoff spot, wont realistically do any damage.

If he signs an offer sheet for less then the mentioned 5.05M per, then one has to question, how much of a gap in dollars is actually between him and the Canadiens? If he claims to want to play in Montreal, then would he accept a 5M offer sheet? and if its less then 5M, then is it worth Bergevin to sign him? More then likely yes. I would imagine that the offer as it stands is probably between 4-4.5 for 2 or 3 years. So, let Subban sit. When he comes to terms with the fact he absolutely will not get what he's asking for, he will sign to play. Hands down. It will hurt him more potentially to hold out for the remainder of this season and next and so on, then to sign for less, prove your worth, then hit the big time.

In the time being though, you can bet that Bergevin is on the phones, seeing what PK is worth. And if the right deal came along, then pull the trigger, and get rid of the headache.

But, again, for the time being, do nothing. Time will tell what happens.

My 2 cents.
- NHLwriter

And peters twice

When another team enters the picture it's easy to point fingers when you have to match...It's a great out for the matching team...
- Flyfreaky

I just do not see a scenario where he plays elsewhere. Habs made that mistake with chelios. Don;t see history repeating here.