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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 25 @ 3:57 PM ET
There are alot of other players getting paid more than that that aren't as good.
- Cptmjl


I say if you can pay a top 6 forward less than 5 a season on a long term deal, you did a pretty good job with that contract.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
Right up there with passing on Kassian for Dehurt
- Vukota


I was really hoping Snow would pick Kassian on that draft day. Dehaan was a surprise and with his injuries his one NHL game last year may be the only one he plays.

Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
All FA's get overpaid and with our payroll a 67 point guy who is 26 and was a FA is worth 4 mil. Losing those 67 points is going to have a negative effect. Sorry but I'm a bit skeptical about Acoin or Boyes reahing that number.
- Cptmjl


I agree with you that I dont think Boyes will reach that point total either... But just cuz the Isles have cap room, doesnt mean you over pay a player. Escpecially a player like PA... IMO he just hasnt done it long enough or even consistent enough. Id over pay a player liek Suter or Parise.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
The kid is goign to be soild one day, I wanted to the Avs to trade up that draft year to get him.

Parenteau and Duchene are dynamite together, the guy has some talent and wasnt all just bc of him playing with JT.

- DDM-Coga

Parenteau is solid. Didn't get a lot of credit here because everyone said his numbers were inflated playing with JT. He my not hit 67 points for you guys, but he'll be productive. I wish we would have kept him.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
I LOVE when he does that!!!!! Can you imagine what's going through said Dman's mind when he does that???? I have this feeling they secretly hate the guy. Of course he has Goring's endorsement. Remember when he blamed Nielsen for not letting DP know when the draw was happening??? Classic!
- Cptmjl



Goring tried to blame interference on the first goal against nabby last night until he saw the replay and then still tried to make a half ass excuse for the bad goal

Also anybody here Rose say Okposo was knocked off balance when he fell at one point. Only problem was there was nobody within 10ft of him. Just Okposo being Okposo and that's falling over the place
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 4:03 PM ET
I agree with you that I dont think Boyes will reach that point total either... But just cuz the Isles have cap room, doesnt mean you over pay a player. Escpecially a player like PA... IMO he just hasnt done it long enough or even consistent enough. Id over pay a player liek Suter or Parise.
- Bags502

I hear you. The thing is he had success with us, you have to reward that success IMO just like in any job. This may sound crazy to you but I actually think he's worth it especially given the fact that the guy was a FA. We have the cap room, we struggle to reach the floor for God's sake. It's going to be like that for a while at least, don't fool yourself thinking Wang is going to start spending freely when we move to Brooklyn. To me it was a complete total blunder on Snow's part to not sign the guy and even more so not to trade him for something.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
Goring tried to blame interference on the first goal against nabby last night until he saw the replay and then still tried to make a half ass excuse for the bad goal

Also anybody here Rose say Okposo was knocked off balance when he fell at one point. Only problem was there was nobody within 10ft of him. Just Okposo being Okposo and that's falling over the place :lol:

- Vukota

I caught that, I was cracking up
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
I caught that, I was cracking up
- Cptmjl



I knew you would catch that
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing when I read that and then thought about who we were talking about and decided not to post it
- Cptmjl


my head might explode if DP only allows one goal tonight.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
I was really hoping Snow would pick Kassian on that draft day. Dehaan was a surprise and with his injuries his one NHL game last year may be the only one he plays.
- Isles_since_6



Especially with how small they are up front. Facking snow Yet people still support him
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
I hear you. The thing is he had success with us, you have to reward that success IMO just like in any job. This may sound crazy to you but I actually think he's worth it especially given the fact that the guy was a FA. We have the cap room, we struggle to reach the floor for God's sake. It's going to be like that for a while at least, don't fool yourself thinking Wang is going to start spending freely when we move to Brooklyn. To me it was a complete total blunder on Snow's part to not sign the guy and even more so not to trade him for something.
- Cptmjl


See I dont think Wang will keep the teams payroll around the minimum when we get to Brooklyn... I honestly think, when he offered Smyth, Martin and Volchenkov more money then what they signed... He was embarrassed and really stopped going after the big names. This is why besides the simple fact that they need a new arena... Why he is/was stressing a new arena so much.

Obviously, time will tell (and it prob wont be the first year cuz the players arent going to see the arena until after a full season) but I think he will spend money on the payroll.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
Parenteau is solid. Didn't get a lot of credit here because everyone said his numbers were inflated playing with JT. He my not hit 67 points for you guys, but he'll be productive. I wish we would have kept him.
- Jethro09


I still think PA is overrated and won't come near his points with JT. I could be wrong, and have been before, but I still think he's Jason Blake 2.0 and will score less than 30 points this year.

I also don't think Boyes is going to be what we need to replace what PA did with JT, and I don't think KO is our best choice on the first line but until Nino is ready he'll have to do
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
Goring tried to blame interference on the first goal against nabby last night until he saw the replay and then still tried to make a half ass excuse for the bad goal

Also anybody here Rose say Okposo was knocked off balance when he fell at one point. Only problem was there was nobody within 10ft of him. Just Okposo being Okposo and that's falling over the place

- Vukota

I can't believe KO has as poor balance as he does. The guy can't skate. 7th overall in the draft and he can't help but trip over blue and red lines. Why don't they send KO to JT's skating coach? JT skating now is leaps and bounds better than he was at 19, and JT skating at 19 is better than KO's skating now.
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
my head might explode if DP only allows one goal tonight.
- Isles_since_6



So when he throws a shutout... It will explode?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:09 PM ET
In Boston? Not since the Soviets chanted "Rocky!" have we seen an athlete win the opposition's fans' hearts in such a way. If anyone can do it, surely it's DPesus.
- UIF



This brought a tear to my eye!!

Im going to go into storage and get out my USA DP jersey & wear it during the game tonight.. then Im going to wrap myself in an American flag!!

DP wins tonight!!

XxNYIxX
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:09 PM ET
I still think PA is overrated and won't come near his points with JT. I could be wrong, and have been before, but I still think he's Jason Blake 2.0 and will score less than 30 points this year.

I also don't think Boyes is going to be what we need to replace what PA did with JT, and I don't think KO is our best choice on the first line but until Nino is ready he'll have to do

- Isles_since_6

The point is, for whatever reason, PAP was scoring on the Isles. He had two productive seasons. Why let a guy who obviously produces for you walk away for nothing, especially when the money to keep him wasn't THAT bad? You could have had PAP AND signed Boyes and created some depth. Instead, you let PAP walk for nothing. Doesn't make sense to me...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
See I dont think Wang will keep the teams payroll around the minimum when we get to Brooklyn... I honestly think, when he offered Smyth, Martin and Volchenkov more money then what they signed... He was embarrassed and really stopped going after the big names. This is why besides the simple fact that they need a new arena... Why he is/was stressing a new arena so much.

Obviously, time will tell (and it prob wont be the first year cuz the players arent going to see the arena until after a full season) but I think he will spend money on the payroll.

- Bags502



You're right, he'll continue to keep it below the minimum with BS buyouts and cap hits that are larger then the actual salary
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
The kid is goign to be soild one day, I wanted to the Avs to trade up that draft year to get him.

Parenteau and Duchene are dynamite together, the guy has some talent and wasnt all just bc of him playing with JT.

- DDM-Coga



Oh god, dont say that around here!!!

XxNYIxX
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
I LOVE when he does that!!!!! Can you imagine what's going through said Dman's mind when he does that???? I have this feeling they secretly hate the guy. Of course he has Goring's endorsement. Remember when he blamed Nielsen for not letting DP know when the draw was happening??? Classic!
- Cptmjl

That was wonderful
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
The point is, for whatever reason, PAP was scoring on the Isles. He had two productive seasons. Why let a guy who obviously produces for you walk away for nothing, especially when the money to keep him wasn't THAT bad? You could have had PAP AND signed Boyes and created some depth. Instead, you let PAP walk for nothing. Doesn't make sense to me...
- Jethro09



99% of the things they do don't
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
That was wonderful
- mighty13duck

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
When David booth is over 4 mill a season, I think I would rather pay PA that 4 and day of the week
- DDM-Coga




XxNYIxX
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
He's due!
- PeteM


UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
Goring tried to blame interference on the first goal against nabby last night until he saw the replay and then still tried to make a half ass excuse for the bad goal

Also anybody here Rose say Okposo was knocked off balance when he fell at one point. Only problem was there was nobody within 10ft of him. Just Okposo being Okposo and that's falling over the place

- Vukota


I gotta say, I thought Butchie was uncharacteristically down on the team after the first...I thought he would get fired on the spot for the dreaded reason of not being "positive enough." He was calling them lazy and everything.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
You're right, he'll continue to keep it below the minimum with BS buyouts and cap hits that are larger then the actual salary
- Vukota


Can't do that anymore with new CBA
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