Oh the lockout started in september didn't it? Playoffs end in June...GILIS HAD 2 MONTHS to trade him.
- Allstarzz

It's just not a simple process, and not something you rush. Perhaps waiting for more leverage.

I hope that makes sense? No need to get aggressive, surely you can understand that stance.

TWICE? ARE YOU (frank)ING KIDDING ME? FOR HOW MANY TIMES THEY DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THE YEARS BEFORE they're like (frank)ed
- Mapleleafs_91

olympics with the nhl players are a better win than a stanley cup....
- jribout

Nothing is better than a Cup win. Nothing. There you go not being realistic again...

We've done that twice this season. Grabbing a lead and taking the foot off the pedal.
- systemtool

They are really playing with fire, blowing winnable games at the start. We had an advantage, with most of our players, either in Europe or in the AHL. Once the big boys get back into game shape, we'll fade. If we could have had a quick start, we had a chance. I have a feeling that we're losing in New York and will have our hands full, in Buffalo. Washington will get it going too. I hate good teams who start slow, because it means that they make it up, when they come out of it. We could well be 2 and 5, by a week from Saturday. Which isn't a bad thing.

- Two_For_Truth

i guess i am realistic.... read my post before you rip it up.....
- jribout

Getting Luongo for the sake of just making the playoffs is a serious waste of time. He gets us 8th place and a 1st round exit. Guess you consider that an achievement.

- Two_For_Truth

Hey, that was my wife, 45 years ago. She's still the same today, but it's a frying pan that she waves at me.

It's just not a simple process, and not something you rush. Perhaps waiting for more leverage.

I hope that makes sense? No need to get aggressive, surely you can understand that stance.
- Mattjd123

i must have drank way more last night than i thought.

there sure is an excessive amount of greasy poop to wipe up in here tonight.

i'm running out of TP.

Thats because we have a past. You're in the present because you have no where else to go.

Your team is old, barely much young ready to take over, cap issues. The past has been a collosal failure with no Cups.

So yea...the present is all you have. And you're 4th in your own division by the way. So im not sure you're even alive.
- systemtool

I'm out for now, I'll be back in a few weeks and we can discuss the present.

They are really playing with fire, blowing winnable games at the start. We had an advantage, with most of our players, either in Europe or in the AHL. Once the big boys get back into game shape, we'll fade. If we could have had a quick start, we had a chance. I have a feeling that we're losing in New York and will have our hands full, in Buffalo. Washington will get it going too. I hate good teams who start slow, because it means that they make it up, when they come out of it. We could well be 2 and 5, by a week from Saturday. Which isn't a bad thing.
- PrinceLH

Thats too mush assumption. We should have lost to the Pens but won. Should have won vs the Isles, but lost. It happens.

Nothing is better than a Cup win. Nothing. There you go not being realistic again...
- systemtool

i wouldn't know leafs havent won since i started cheering for them in the 1970's

i should have stuck with montreal

I'm out for now, I'll be back in a few weeks and we can discuss the present.
- golfingsince

Hey, that was my wife, 45 years ago. She's still the same today, but it's a frying pan that she waves at me.
- PrinceLH

Married to Mapleleafs_91?

Rough...

I'm out for now, I'll be back in a few weeks and we can discuss the present.
- golfingsince

Okay. We can ignore the past too.

olympics with the nhl players are a better win than a stanley cup....
- jribout

what do you think the chances are i can borrow that for a location?.. this garth thing is tough to drop, but you're really pushing the boundaries.

Getting Luongo for the sake of just making the playoffs is a serious waste of time. He gets us 8th place and a 1st round exit. Guess you consider that an achievement.
- Two_For_Truth

I know......I believe that too. I think he doesn't even get us into the playoffs. He gets us 9th or 10th place and a draft pick around 13. The worst possible scenereo.

I know......I believe that too. I think he doesn't even get us into the playoffs. He gets us 9th or 10th place and a draft pick around 13. The worst possible scenereo.
- PrinceLH

He has enough gas in the tank to get the Leafs into 7th or 8th place.

The problem is, with a 1st placed team, he got his ass kicked in the 1st round. And if he couldn't win a Cup at 32 with a 1st placed team, there's no way in hell he can do it at 34+ with whatever crap team the Leafs put in front of him. He would be older, the pressure would be higher and the team would be crappier. A recipe for failure.

It's a serious waste of time. Low playoff seeds and early playoff exits. No winning. No rebuilding. Just mediocrity.

You guys do know, with the Habs winning, that we're now dead last in the North East?

He has enough gas in the tank to get the Leafs into 7th or 8th place.

The problem is, with a 1st placed team, he got his ass kicked in the 1st round. And if he couldn't win a Cup at 32 with a 1st placed team, there's no way in hell he can do it at 34+ with whatever crap team the Leafs put in front of him. He would be older, the pressure would be higher and the team would be crappier. A recipe for failure.

It's a serious waste of time. Low playoff seeds and early playoff exits. No winning. No rebuilding. Just mediocrity.
- Two_For_Truth

Plus another 9 years of wasted cap space at 5.4 per year.

luongo gets us in the playoffs... not sure that is what we want though.... if a younger goalie gets us there okay.... if not take the draft pick....if damaged = realistic then yes i am.....
- jribout

you obviously needed help reading my realistic comment

You guys do know, with the Habs winning, that we're now dead last in the North East?
- PrinceLH

Sitting at 14th overall at the draft table so far.

He has enough gas in the tank to get the Leafs into 7th or 8th place.

The problem is, with a 1st placed team, he got his ass kicked in the 1st round. And if he couldn't win a Cup at 32 with a 1st placed team, there's no way in hell he can do it at 34+ with whatever crap team the Leafs put in front of him. He would be older, the pressure would be higher and the team would be crappier. A recipe for failure.

It's a serious waste of time. Low playoff seeds and early playoff exits. No winning. No rebuilding. Just mediocrity.
- Two_For_Truth

You never know. Look at the kings last year. Got hot at right time. They were average at best until the last month of the season

You never know. Look at the kings last year. Got hot at right time. They were average at best until the last month of the season
- Isles316

Your not allowed here, leave

You guys do know, with the Habs winning, that we're now dead last in the North East?
- PrinceLH

You do know that they're tied for 3rd? The Habs have to win their next to pass us.

Your not allowed here, leave
- Mapleleafs_91

Well if you want to be a Richard, it's you're not your.