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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:14 AM ET
Unfortunately I feel the same way.. Almost as if a loss is unavoidable. We suck against the Rags, we have sucked so far this season, and now we are without 2 top 6 forwards..
- jak521


A loss would be okay if I see certain things. No shame in losing to a better team if you're shorthanded and out manned due to injury. If you fight and compete, and play hard. That's what I'm looking for tonight. To see how they respond. To see who elevates their game and steps up. I think the biggest thing they need to avoid is getting down early. They seem to deflate when that happens.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
Shelley and Sestito playing means there for sure will be ranger blood on the ice tonight..... Love him or Hate Him Shelley has heart
- Flyers_1488

if you cant win with skill, then at least make the game entertaining for the fans
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
Does lava ever entertain the thought of putting a dman like gervais on the 4th line? I know we havent had a healthy crop of dmen in awhile. But how can they scratch gervais or foster in favor of some of these guys?
- Just5


The other guys are on the team and have been called up for a reason. They're better choices then to play a defenseman at Forward,
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 24 @ 8:16 AM ET
I'd like to see more attempting to get a scoring chance instead of clearing the puck on a 5-3 PK, less movement on the PP and more undisciplined penalties.

Also, trade our young players because their value will never be higher.

seriously, if they drop a stinker tonight, the boos will rain down. Bryz seems to be the only player that's showed up so far this year..

- Hextall271

I totally agree.. There hasnt been a single goal this year where I sat there and said.. "Dammit Bryz!" Hell, Ive said "Dammit G" about 25 times..


On a serious note.. I want to see them shoot as often as possible. Give it to the point and let them hammer it! Crash the net as much as possible. We are going to have some big bodies out there tonight.. make life miserable for King Henrik..
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:17 AM ET
A loss would be okay if I see certain things. No shame in losing to a better team if you're shorthanded and out manned due to injury. If you fight and compete, and play hard. That's what I'm looking for tonight. To see how they respond. To see who elevates their game and steps up. I think the biggest thing they need to avoid is getting down early. They seem to deflate when that happens.
- MJL


If the execution and effort is there for 60 minutes, a loss is not the end of the world. Hell if the execution and effort is there for 50 minutes a corner has been turned.

Some young guys are getting a big opportunity tonight, they need to go grab it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
I'd like to see more drop passes at the blue line, puck handling through 3 defenders instead of getting it deep. And our dmen pinching in the play when the 4th line is out.
- Just5


Bravo! This post is well done.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
I totally agree.. There hasnt been a single goal this year where I sat there and said.. "Dammit Bryz!" Hell, Ive said "Dammit G" about 25 times..


On a serious note.. I want to see them shoot as often as possible. Give it to the point and let them hammer it! Crash the net as much as possible. We are going to have some big bodies out there tonight.. make life miserable for King Henrik..

- jak521

really hate the flyers D, seems to get worst every year
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
A loss would be okay if I see certain things. No shame in losing to a better team if you're shorthanded and out manned due to injury. If you fight and compete, and play hard. That's what I'm looking for tonight. To see how they respond. To see who elevates their game and steps up. I think the biggest thing they need to avoid is getting down early. They seem to deflate when that happens.
- MJL

I totally agree. I hate losing, but if they manage to come out and make it a dog fight.. and dont quit.. Ill take that as a win. The world doesnt end if they lose tonight. They dont miss the playoffs if they lose tonight. But if they do indeed lose, it just continues to make that hill they have to climb steeper.

As for getting behind early.. they seem to have a HUGE confidence issue... a "here we go again" attitude if you will. I think that has a ton to do with the overall amount of younger players, but you need to kick that thought NOW!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:21 AM ET
not going to be pretty going to sunrise on sat night watching the 0-4 flyers
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:22 AM ET
A loss would be okay if I see certain things. No shame in losing to a better team if you're shorthanded and out manned due to injury. If you fight and compete, and play hard. That's what I'm looking for tonight. To see how they respond. To see who elevates their game and steps up. I think the biggest thing they need to avoid is getting down early. They seem to deflate when that happens.
- MJL


Agreed. They need to keep things simple, not get fancy, and work their asses off.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:23 AM ET
not going to be pretty going to sunrise on sat night watching the 0-4 flyers
- vejim


I'm ecstatic to be watching Hockey. Want to go back to the lockout?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:24 AM ET
Bill for GM.....Snider has been patient since 1976, wonder how long he will be patient with Homer if the boys dont do something soon?
- vejim




Snider patient...yeah that's rich
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:25 AM ET
I'm ecstatic to be watching Hockey. Want to go back to the lockout?
- MJL

no
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 24 @ 8:25 AM ET


Snider patient...yeah that's rich

- Jsaquella



vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:27 AM ET


Snider patient...yeah that's rich

- Jsaquella

yes, Snider is rich...no cup in 38 years is being patient
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:31 AM ET
yes, Snider is rich...no cup in 38 years is being patient
- vejim


Just out of curiousity, what would happen if he was impatient?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 24 @ 8:36 AM ET
really hate the flyers D, seems to get worst every year
- vejim

Its downright scary right now.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:40 AM ET
yes, Snider is rich...no cup in 38 years is being patient
- vejim


The Flyers always go all out to try to win; and they don't wait through much of any struggle before making major changes. The lack of a Cup in 38 years is closer to being a product of impatience than of over-patience.

Closer, but still not accurate. It's really a reflection of the fact of just how damn hard -- and how lucky ANY team has to get -- to go all the way. The playoffs always come down to:

a) matchups. Every team has some other team that gives them matchup problems; it's a matter of either being lucky enough to avoid those particular teams in the playoffs or of squeaking out a few OT and/or comeback wins in a given series.

b) special teams and goaltending getting hot at the right time; and

c) sheer attrition. If the Flyers were even slightly healthier (especially Tim Kerr) they may well have won Game 7 in Edmonton in 1987 after scoring first.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:45 AM ET
yes, Snider is rich...no cup in 38 years is being patient
- vejim


No Cup in 38 years isn't patient, it's simply not winning a Stanley Cup in 38 years.

I love that they're trying to win every year, rather than doing a Pens' style rebuild.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:45 AM ET
Its downright scary right now.
- jak521


I've seen it worse; much worse in fact. Flyers once went into playoffs with Michal Sykora, Chris McAllister, Andy Delmore as half of their regular starting defense, along with Desjardins (who was coming off a major injury and got off to the worst start of his career), Dan McGillis and Luke Richardson as their top 3. Still somehow managed to be a 100 point team.



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:47 AM ET
I've seen it worse; much worse in fact. Flyers once went into playoffs with Michal Sykora, Chris McAllister, Andy Delmore as half of their regular starting defense, along with Desjardins (who was coming off a major injury and got off to the worst start of his career), Dan McGillis and Luke Richardson as their top 3. Still somehow managed to be a 100 point team.
- bmeltzer


I just got douche chills. I remember that defense.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 24 @ 8:49 AM ET
any estimate on how long hartnell is out for?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:50 AM ET
The Flyers always go all out to try to win; and they don't wait through much of any struggle before making major changes. The lack of a Cup in 38 years is closer to being a product of impatience than of over-patience.

Closer, but still not accurate. It's really a reflection of the fact of just how damn hard -- and how lucky ANY team has to get -- to go all the way. The playoffs always come down to:

a) matchups. Every team has some other team that gives them matchup problems; it's a matter of either being lucky enough to avoid those particular teams in the playoffs or of squeaking out a few OT and/or comeback wins in a given series.

b) special teams and goaltending getting hot at the right time; and

c) sheer attrition. If the Flyers were even slightly healthier (especially Tim Kerr) they may well have won Game 7 in Edmonton in 1987 after scoring first.

- bmeltzer


Sometimes I feel like the Flyers try harder to build a team that is entertaining than a team that wins. I know it's all about winning for Snider...and he is winning. His team is very successful where it matters to him.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 24 @ 8:50 AM ET
A loss would be okay if I see certain things. No shame in losing to a better team if you're shorthanded and out manned due to injury. If you fight and compete, and play hard. That's what I'm looking for tonight. To see how they respond. To see who elevates their game and steps up. I think the biggest thing they need to avoid is getting down early. They seem to deflate when that happens.
- MJL


Lavy: "Hey guys. I know we lost 4 in a row. We had some bad breaks. And it is early in the season. Keeping it positive, MJL saw certain things and we still have a chance to make the playoffs"

Team: "F'ing seriously?"

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:52 AM ET
The Flyers always go all out to try to win; and they don't wait through much of any struggle before making major changes. The lack of a Cup in 38 years is closer to being a product of impatience than of over-patience.

Closer, but still not accurate. It's really a reflection of the fact of just how damn hard -- and how lucky ANY team has to get -- to go all the way. The playoffs always come down to:

a) matchups. Every team has some other team that gives them matchup problems; it's a matter of either being lucky enough to avoid those particular teams in the playoffs or of squeaking out a few OT and/or comeback wins in a given series.

b) special teams and goaltending getting hot at the right time; and
at least make an effort to draft D and goalies...there is zilch at the farm
c) sheer attrition. If the Flyers were even slightly healthier (especially Tim Kerr) they may well have won Game 7 in Edmonton in 1987 after scoring first.

- bmeltzer

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