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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 23 @ 9:52 PM ET
Raymond, Ballard and a 2nd
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 23 @ 9:54 PM ET
What if i was Gagner and PRV? Would you guys do that? Maybe Colorado throws a 2nd rounder your way to balance it
- Frank_Grimes

Wrong guy. SOrry
oilers2k14
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 09.17.2012

Jan 23 @ 9:55 PM ET
Here's something that would work.

TO EDMONTON:
O'Reilly
J.Hejda
Avs 1st Round Pick(2013)
Avs 3rd Round Pick(2014)
Avs 2nd Round Pick(2015)
Avs 2nd Round Pick(2016)

TO COLORADO
S.Gagner
A.Lander
M.Paajarvi
D.Musil
Oil 1st Round Pick(2013)
Ducks 2nd Round Pick(2013)
Oil 1st Round Pick(2015)

BLOCKBUSTER BABY!!! BLOCKBUSTER!!!

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 23 @ 9:56 PM ET
What would the oilers be willing to give up for Voynov? I know it won't happen, especially with Greene going down..but just for fun.
- Deadmau55

either Ballard, Raymond and a 2nd
or
Gagner and a 2nd
or
MPS and a 2nd
or
Omark,Belanger, and a 2nd
or
Eller and a 2nd
Mystery
Joined: 09.14.2011

Jan 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
Yeah buddy. Just like I'm sure you're stoked to come into said blog and tell him that Gagner isn't enough for the next player you dub a superstar. Who's up next? Vermette? Weiss? McDonald? You're a joke.
- MaximumBone



If his offers were actually something like Vermette for Gagner, that would be more realistic.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
You're awesome pal, I bet you can't wait for his next blog where you don't trade one of the young kids for a different superstar, yet Gagner and second rounder will get it done.

The reason Luongo isn't an oiler isn't because Gagner is an overpayment let's just say that

- Mystery

Yeah buddy. Just like I'm sure you're stoked to come into said blog and tell him that Gagner isn't enough for the next player you dub a superstar. Who's up next? Vermette? Weiss? McDonald? You're a joke.

I agree that Gagner alone isn't enough to get O' Reilly. Clouts even said in his blog that the Oilers would need to overpay to get O' Reilly. The degree to which we'd need to overpay is where I think he's wrong. I also question whether Gagner is the right player for Colorado were such a deal to happen.
Mystery
Joined: 09.14.2011

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
Here's something that would work.

TO EDMONTON:
O'Reilly
J.Hejda
Avs 1st Round Pick(2013)
Avs 3rd Round Pick(2014)
Avs 2nd Round Pick(2015)
Avs 2nd Round Pick(2016)

TO COLORADO
S.Gagner
A.Lander
M.Paajarvi
D.Musil
Oil 1st Round Pick(2013)
Ducks 2nd Round Pick(2013)
Oil 1st Round Pick(2015)

BLOCKBUSTER BABY!!! BLOCKBUSTER!!!

- oilers2k14



That's an actual trade offer
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:00 PM ET
If his offers were actually something like Vermette for Gagner, that would be more realistic.
- Mystery

To redirect the subject, who do you think the Avs might consider in a trade for O' Reilly from Edmonton(assuming he does get traded)?
RichardHertz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 10.25.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:02 PM ET
To redirect the subject, who do you think the Avs might consider in a trade for O' Reilly from Edmonton(assuming he does get traded)?
- MaximumBone


Crosby is the starting point or the Avs hang up the phone.
Avs-Ice
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Boulder, CO
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:12 PM ET
Crosby is the starting point or the Avs hang up the phone.
- RichardHertz

Totally!
We need a good defenseman, so Edmonton really isn't good trading partners. Though with Downie out for the season hopefully the Avs will shell out some money. I don't think O'reilly deserves 5 million after one good year. Though hard to argue when Jones got 4 million this offseason, of course that was UFA money.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:13 PM ET
either Ballard, Raymond and a 2nd
or
Gagner and a 2nd
or
MPS and a 2nd
or
Omark,Belanger, and a 2nd
or
Eller and a 2nd

- TheNugeIsHuge



I like Gagner. Don't know how y'all feel about him.
HitmanKiller12
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:13 PM ET
Cloutier, what do you think it would take to get Benn? Apparently he is holding out on Dallas amd badly wants to play in Canada.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:19 PM ET
Cloutier, what do you think it would take to get Benn? Apparently he is holding out on Dallas amd badly wants to play in Canada.
- HitmanKiller12

One of Hall or Yakupov and an NHL quality Dman as a starting point. In case it wasn't obvious, I'm insinuating that I don't think there's a deal to be made.
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:21 PM ET
Cloutier, what do you think it would take to get Benn? Apparently he is holding out on Dallas amd badly wants to play in Canada.
- HitmanKiller12


I think we would all love to have Benn on the Oilers, but it would take a lot. I think we all know that asking for one of the Oklahoma Four and probably Yakupov in a deal is a non-starter for the Oilers. Maybe a package of Sam Gagner, Oscar Klefbom, and a 2nd round pick gets some traction. Or Gagner, Musil/Gernat/Marincin, and a 1st round pick. Who knows what it would take. I know I'd get an erection if it happened, but it's nothing more than a fantasy at this point.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:24 PM ET
I think we would all love to have Benn on the Oilers, but it would take a lot. I think we all know that asking for one of the Oklahoma Four and probably Yakupov in a deal is a non-starter for the Oilers. Maybe a package of Sam Gagner, Oscar Klefbom, and a 2nd round pick gets some traction. Or Gagner, Musil/Gernat/Marincin, and a 1st round pick. Who knows what it would take. I know I'd get an erection if it happened, but it's nothing more than a fantasy at this point.
- SteveTambellini

If there were a deal to be made (and I don't think there is), it would start with a top-6 forward and a top 4 dman. Add some picks and prospects and you'd be shaping a deal.
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
If there were a deal to be made (and I don't think there is), it would start with a top-6 forward and a top 4 dman. Add some picks and prospects and you'd be shaping a deal.
- MaximumBone


I don't think you get an established top-6 F AND an established top-4 D for Benn. You probably get one established player, and one top grade prospect or young player. Then you can tweak the deal from there. Of course this is just my opinion, who the hell knows what Benn would actually fetch in a trade. Maybe the first proposal I mentioned (Gagner, Klefbom, and a 2nd) could be the framework for a deal. Maybe you add another prospect to that mix. Either way, I agree, I don't see a deal to be had.

If this Benn situation gets any worse, things could go south in a hurry for Joe Nieuwendyk.
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
I don't think you get an established top-6 F AND an established top-4 D for Benn. You probably get one established player, and one top grade prospect or young player. Then you can tweak the deal from there. Of course this is just my opinion, who the hell knows what Benn would actually fetch in a trade. Maybe the first proposal I mentioned (Gagner, Klefbom, and a 2nd) could be the framework for a deal. Maybe you add another prospect to that mix. Either way, I agree, I don't see a deal to be had.

If this Benn situation gets any worse, things could go south in a hurry for Joe Nieuwendyk.

- SteveTambellini


Actually, looking back on the proposal I made, I've changed my mind. It would take more for the Oil to get Benn. You'd have to add a guy like Marincin. Even then, I don't know if I'd do it from a Dallas perspective.

I kid you not, I would give up Gagner, Whitney, Hemsky, 2nd round pick and/or a prospect for Jamie Benn.
RichardHertz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 10.25.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
One of Hall or Yakupov and an NHL quality Dman as a starting point. In case it wasn't obvious, I'm insinuating that I don't think there's a deal to be made.
- MaximumBone

Mathwil3
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
I don't think you get an established top-6 F AND an established top-4 D for Benn. You probably get one established player, and one top grade prospect or young player. Then you can tweak the deal from there. Of course this is just my opinion, who the hell knows what Benn would actually fetch in a trade. Maybe the first proposal I mentioned (Gagner, Klefbom, and a 2nd) could be the framework for a deal. Maybe you add another prospect to that mix. Either way, I agree, I don't see a deal to be had.

If this Benn situation gets any worse, things could go south in a hurry for Joe Nieuwendyk.

- SteveTambellini



Nathan Gerbe, Andrej Sekera, and a pick exchange. Gerbe can be a top sixth forward if he gets the ice time. Sekera is a top 4 damn and both have reasonable contracts
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
*NOTE TO TROLLS AND IDIOTS*

Cloutier does not speak for any Oiler fans, so when you come here to cry about how "we" over value their players you look like the moron you probably are.

*NOTE TO CLOUTIER*

You do not have sources. You might know someone who says they know someone, but please stop writing like you know for sure.
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
*NOTE TO TROLLS AND IDIOTS*

Cloutier does not speak for any Oiler fans, so when you come here to cry about how "we" over value their players you look like the moron you probably are.

*NOTE TO CLOUTIER*

You do not have sources. You might know someone who says they know someone, but please stop writing like you know for sure.

- abware


(frank)ing THIS.
Mathwil3
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
*NOTE TO TROLLS AND IDIOTS*

Cloutier does not speak for any Oiler fans, so when you come here to cry about how "we" over value their players you look like the moron you probably are.

*NOTE TO CLOUTIER*

You do not have sources. You might know someone who says they know someone, but please stop writing like you know for sure.

- abware



I think that was unfair. If he doesn't represent you why are you even replying on here?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
I find it amazing that Sam Gagner and some other asset is always enough in this guys head to land a super star. Yet Gagner is still for some reason an Oiler
- Mystery


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
Nathan Gerbe, Andrej Sekera, and a pick exchange. Gerbe can be a top sixth forward if he gets the ice time. Sekera is a top 4 damn and both have reasonable contracts
- Mathwil3


Replace Gerbe with Hodgson or Girgensons and you're starting to get warmer.
HitmanKiller12
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
I don't think you get an established top-6 F AND an established top-4 D for Benn. You probably get one established player, and one top grade prospect or young player. Then you can tweak the deal from there. Of course this is just my opinion, who the hell knows what Benn would actually fetch in a trade. Maybe the first proposal I mentioned (Gagner, Klefbom, and a 2nd) could be the framework for a deal. Maybe you add another prospect to that mix. Either way, I agree, I don't see a deal to be had.

If this Benn situation gets any worse, things could go south in a hurry for Joe Nieuwendyk.

- SteveTambellini


I was thinking something around gagner, musil (or similar level prospect) and a 1st would be a reasonable starting point. Definitely would have a scary top 6. Have to take into consideration to a certain extent that Benn is holding out on Dallas and putting them in a tough situation.. fun to think about atleast.
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