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nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
What was the Unsportsmanlike on Crosby for? I was watching the jumbotron for the Too Many Men and saw that there was another penalty there too. Yapping at the refs?
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
Wow do you guys need a goalie.

I know we in Calgary need a hockey team.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
Wow do you guys need a goalie.

I know we in Calgary need a hockey team.

- KABLOOEY


flower for iggy and kipall... All good though. apparently i'm the one guy that doesn't think flower is carrying his weight.
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:49 PM ET
flower for iggy and kip
- Sell My Monkey

With our past trading I can't say that might not happen.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:52 PM ET
With our past trading I can't say that might not happen.
- KABLOOEY


haha, good luck. i'm sure the flames would beat us too. Really the maple leafs again?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:53 PM ET
Just finished the game on DVR. That was a clunker. Can't remember Crosby and Malkin having so many of their passes tipped.

I was at a loss for words on Kunitz's second boarding penalty, text book body check.

Leafs played well, Reimer even better.

Not much to add on Tangradi, no need to pile on him. Hes trying, it's just not good enough to play in that spot.

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
Just finished the game on DVR. That was a clunker. Can't remember Crosby and Malkin having so many of their passes tipped.

I was at a loss for words on Kunitz's second boarding penalty, text book body check.

Leafs played well, Reimer even better.

Not much to add on Tangradi, no need to pile on him. Hes trying, it's just not good enough to play in that spot.

- Gunner Staal

it was said here before, but if theyre gonna call that then kunitz is going to lose a big part of his game. the team as a whole was pretty piss poor. and yeah, i think it is safe to say that tangradi is just overwhelmed in that spot. he is a grinder with some size. no more
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jan 24 @ 12:34 AM ET
it was said here before, but if theyre gonna call that then kunitz is going to lose a big part of his game. the team as a whole was pretty piss poor. and yeah, i think it is safe to say that tangradi is just overwhelmed in that spot. he is a grinder with some size. no more
- stayinthefnnet


Yeah Kunitz didn't like it and he had every right to be upset. Hopefully the officials can get on point and keep from making calls in the corners on plays like that. He's. one of the consistently physical players at both ends for the Penguins. Tangradi just doesn't fit with the north/south game. I like his attitude and that he trained and lost weight but sometimes the system just doesn't benefit a player no matter what he does. It's unfortunate.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jan 24 @ 3:15 AM ET
Well Bennet is being featured in the AHL allstar game. 25 needs to go away....freaking useless. Flower???????????? Umm is it too late to think our backup is better than the starter?

Awwww eff it. This team has massive holes. But its just one game.

Perhaps we decline all home games. Geno's best pass went to JVR.... Nice!

- Sell My Monkey


Did you even bother to watch the first two games of the season? The ones where they won on back to back nights in tough buildings to play?

Love the overreaction though. It's the same way with people getting overconfident after two wins. No they didn't play well but can we hold off on the hysterics until at least the second loss of the season?

powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 24 @ 6:46 AM ET
Did you even bother to watch the first two games of the season? The ones where they won on back to back nights in tough buildings to play?

Love the overreaction though. It's the same way with people getting overconfident after two wins. No they didn't play well but can we hold off on the hysterics until at least the second loss of the season?

- acdc1206


Yeah they just played dumb and made too many mistakes. Throw that one in the dumpster for me will you? Better effort next one. Leafs played well we played dumb.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 24 @ 6:47 AM ET
5goals on 24 shots Fleury showed up last night, that's what the Penguins problem was.
More of what Fleury did then what the Laffs did. The Laffs are not very good.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 24 @ 7:24 AM ET
5goals on 24 shots Fleury showed up last night, that's what the Penguins problem was.
More of what Fleury did then what the Laffs did. The Laffs are not very good.

- BuffaloHardHat


You can't blame fleury for most of those. Engelland ran over fleury for the first one and the last goal fleury was let out to dry on a 5 on 3. Remember when Fleury stood tall during that string of penalty kills in the 2nd including a 5 on 3? Letang also let someone beat him which developed into a mini 2 on 1. Fleury showed how good he can be when our defense plays up to their potential, but when our defense is soft, They make fleury look bad. Maybe he should of made 1 or 2 of those saves, but our offense didn't help much to get more than 2 goals
pghbirdman
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:51 AM ET
Two observations from last night....1) god awful defensive zone coverage and 2) too many attempts at east-west pretty passes, just shot to puck It's great that hockey is back regardless of the lackluster showing last night.
Trejetta
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2006

Jan 24 @ 9:09 AM ET
5goals on 24 shots Fleury showed up last night, that's what the Penguins problem was.
More of what Fleury did then what the Laffs did. The Laffs are not very good.

- BuffaloHardHat


I guess you didnt watch too much of the game Monday. The only reason you walked away with a W is because of Miller.

If they can barely squeak by the Laffs it doesnt say much about the Sabres
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
I unfortunately saw something last night that I have seen way to much down here in WBS and it happened a few times...most notably to me was the TK breakaway where he passed it at the last minute rather than taking the shot. Many of our WBS guys are known to pass it off too much (look at Tangradi) instead of taking the shot. IF the opportunity is there take it!!!
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
Pens trade Benn Ferriero to the Rags for F Chad Kolarik
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
Pens trade Benn Ferriero to the Rags for F Chad Kolarik
- Reverend Killtaker


dominoes! It's a precursor to another deal. It has to be.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
dominoes! It's a precursor to another deal. It has to be.
- Oneonta Penguin


Make room for Luongo!!! lol
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
Carl Sneep traded to Dallas for a Conditional Pick...more dominos!!!
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 24 @ 9:48 AM ET
Eric Tangradi and Pouliott traded to dallas for the rights to Jamie Benn. One can dream.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Carl Sneep traded to Dallas for a Conditional Pick...more dominos!!!
- Reverend Killtaker


What the heck could the conditions be? I mean it can't be more than a 7th right? Kid spent half the season in Wheeling.

However, Shero got over pretty well on Nieuwendyk last time they dealt lol.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:09 AM ET
Sneep was a disappointment, but its hard to complain about Shero with where he has the system at right now
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 24 @ 10:14 AM ET
Sneep was a disappointment, but its hard to complain about Shero with where he has the system at right now
- Deadstar


I think the organization was right at the limit of NHL contracts, so this helps give them some flexibility.

Interesting, Sneep was taken in the 2nd round in Shero's first draft (2006). There are no players left in the organization from that draft year.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think the organization was right at the limit of NHL contracts, so this helps give them some flexibility.

Interesting, Sneep was taken in the 2nd round in Shero's first draft (2006). There are no players left in the organization from that draft year.

- rival22


First drafts are tough. Shero takes over in May and drafts a month later.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
First drafts are tough. Shero takes over in May and drafts a month later.
- Deadstar


Yeah, and he inherited the whole scouting department and just sorta went along with it. He did take Jordan Staal though, so that worked out pretty well.

His 2007 draft was probably his worst:

# Rd.
20 1 Angelo Esposito
51 2 Keven Veilleux
78 3 Robert Bortuzzo
80 3 Casey Pierro-Zabotel
111 4 Luca Caputi
118 4 Alex Grant
141 5 Jake Muzzin
171 6 Dustin Jeffrey

At least he got value for Esposito, and made a decent deal with Caputi (although the Ponikarovsky experiment didn't work out).
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