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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
hahaha You are officially reported!! double secret probation imminent.
- niteislander


I hope Ek doesn't send one of his 'sources' after me!
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
I honestly feel that the trade for Yashin was more damaging. Losing Chara and the pick that would become Spezza for Yash..... I guess we could call them 1 and 1A
- keaner17



One could even make the argument that Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden was up there too. Call it 1b ha


Either way, for any agent to make something public is bush league. He's a swiss guy......maybe Nino should think about using someone who's from N America? Maybe that info wouldnt have been leaked?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
One could even make the argument that Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden was up there too. Call it 1b ha


Either way, for any agent to make something public is bush league. He's a swiss guy......maybe Nino should think about using someone who's from N America? Maybe that info wouldnt have been leaked?

- kindlyrick

There are so many ways this could've been handled better from both sides. I expect it from the Islanders and I believe so does the rest of the league. If it was in fact the agent and it wasn't discussed with his client then he's got his head up his a$$.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
There are so many ways this could've been handled better from both sides. I expect it from the Islanders and I believe so does the rest of the league. If it was in fact the agent and it wasn't discussed with his client then he's got his head up his a$$.
- Cptmjl



Has anyone confirmed where the 'leak' actually came from? I know they said that Nino's "Camp" made the trade request but I'm more interested in knowing how the info got leaked to Strang this late. If it's Nino's agent, I seriously doubt such a request was made without his absolute consent. If it's a leak from within the organization, that's a BIG problem.

Nino's reaction sounds like damage control after having spoken to Garth. Either way, if it's a dead issue now, we can move on but the nature of the information making it to the press is concerning.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
I honestly feel that the trade for Yashin was more damaging. Losing Chara and the pick that would become Spezza for Yash..... I guess we could call them 1 and 1A
- keaner17


Kvasha was a bigger bust than Yashin was a disappointment. Yash still produced. Overpaid, yes. But he DID contribute and the team made the playoffs.
Peca may have been one of the few "good" trades MM made.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 23 @ 4:26 PM ET
One could even make the argument that Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden was up there too. Call it 1b ha


Either way, for any agent to make something public is bush league. He's a swiss guy......maybe Nino should think about using someone who's from N America? Maybe that info wouldnt have been leaked?

- kindlyrick


foot meet mouth...
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Kvasha was a bigger bust than Yashin was a disappointment. Yash still produced. Overpaid, yes. But he DID contribute and the team made the playoffs.
Peca may have been one of the few "good" trades MM made.

- jmo16




Peca trade was good..............matter of fact this team is missing the Michael peca, Mike Sillinger types....
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
If he keeps female doging we're going to start calling him La Nina!
- keaner17




DPesus, deHurt, La Nina...we're going to have a full lineup by the end of the season if we keep up this pace.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
Has anyone confirmed where the 'leak' actually came from? I know they said that Nino's "Camp" made the trade request but I'm more interested in knowing how the info got leaked to Strang this late. If it's Nino's agent, I seriously doubt such a request was made without his absolute consent. If it's a leak from within the organization, that's a BIG problem.

Nino's reaction sounds like damage control after having spoken to Garth. Either way, if it's a dead issue now, we can move on but the nature of the information making it to the press is concerning.

- keaner17

I won't believe for a single second that Nino wasn't behind it, or at the least consenting, if he doesn't come out and fire his agent. If I had an agent that turned an entire fan base against me against my will in the matter of one afternoon I'd be fuming and would can his ass immediately.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
I won't believe for a single second that Nino wasn't behind it, or at the least consenting, if he doesn't come out and fire his agent. If I had an agent that turned an entire fan base against me against my will in the matter of one afternoon I'd be fuming and would can his ass immediately.
- eichiefs9



http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kq117d
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 6:08 PM ET
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kq117d
- Vukota


there's two points in that conversation, if the translation is accurate that indicate to me that he did talk with Nino about it, and that Nino was on board with it. He indicates to Nino that he'll take the heat for it (which still requires Nino's approval) and that later Nino did approve of it.

Let's face it, this kid is not the second coming of Cam Neely, he's got a LOT of work to do and hasn't done a damn thing in the NHL. His 9 game audition on the second line the first year was a 1 goal "explosion" and last season was awful. This sounds like it was done after he didn't get a training camp invite and since has been put to bed, at least as far as Snow is concerned. Bottom line, Isles hold his rights and he's got a contract. STFU and play well enough that you can't be buried in the minors. They'll need callups during the season and if you want to be one and get a chance to stick you'd best not be making stupid demands when your body of work is pitiful at the NHL level and a few months in the AHL.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:10 PM ET
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kq117d
- Vukota


Oh goodness. Are we sure that is his agent or someone making something up?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 23 @ 7:57 PM ET
Feel like I'm tossing raw meat into a lion cage here, but here you go trade junkies...

All Habs (Canadiens) @All_Habs
TSN's Bob McKenzie says that the Subban - Bergevin standoff will likely end in a trade. I suspect that he is right. #allhabs
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 8:07 PM ET
I won't believe for a single second that Nino wasn't behind it, or at the least consenting, if he doesn't come out and fire his agent. If I had an agent that turned an entire fan base against me against my will in the matter of one afternoon I'd be fuming and would can his ass immediately.
- eichiefs9

There are alot of people that don't agree with you 5 or 6 guys on hockeybuzz believe it or not? On NHLXM most sided with Nino.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 8:08 PM ET
Feel like I'm tossing raw meat into a lion cage here, but here you go trade junkies...

All Habs (Canadiens) @All_Habs
TSN's Bob McKenzie says that the Subban - Bergevin standoff will likely end in a trade. I suspect that he is right. #allhabs

- eichiefs9

wow, shocked by this
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 23 @ 8:08 PM ET
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kq117d
- Vukota


Whelp, i didnt like most european hockey players, and now that extends for their agents as well. This guy sounds like a complete idiot. Can there be any more disconnect from this organization from this guy? Hopefully Nino doesnt let him rep him much longer, cause this guy sounds like he's outta 1980 Russia.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 8:12 PM ET
there's two points in that conversation, if the translation is accurate that indicate to me that he did talk with Nino about it, and that Nino was on board with it. He indicates to Nino that he'll take the heat for it (which still requires Nino's approval) and that later Nino did approve of it.

Let's face it, this kid is not the second coming of Cam Neely, he's got a LOT of work to do and hasn't done a damn thing in the NHL. His 9 game audition on the second line the first year was a 1 goal "explosion" and last season was awful. This sounds like it was done after he didn't get a training camp invite and since has been put to bed, at least as far as Snow is concerned. Bottom line, Isles hold his rights and he's got a contract. STFU and play well enough that you can't be buried in the minors. They'll need callups during the season and if you want to be one and get a chance to stick you'd best not be making stupid demands when your body of work is pitiful at the NHL level and a few months in the AHL.

- Isles_since_6

of course he did
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jan 23 @ 8:24 PM ET
Feel like I'm tossing raw meat into a lion cage here, but here you go trade junkies...

All Habs (Canadiens) @All_Habs
TSN's Bob McKenzie says that the Subban - Bergevin standoff will likely end in a trade. I suspect that he is right. #allhabs

- eichiefs9


I look forward to hearing trade offers for Subban!!!
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jan 23 @ 8:26 PM ET
There are alot of people that don't agree with you 5 or 6 guys on hockeybuzz believe it or not? On NHLXM most sided with Nino.
- Cptmjl



Nino's a whiner... plain and simple!!!

Play the game and worry about getting better!!!

Your time will come... maybe in Montreal....
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 23 @ 8:32 PM ET
There are alot of people that don't agree with you 5 or 6 guys on hockeybuzz believe it or not? On NHLXM most sided with Nino.
- Cptmjl



Bet you those 5 or 6 guys didn't watch Nino play all last year.
I do understand his frustration... to a degree....should he be given a shot on the 1st or 2nd line? Not outright...Maybe, if an injury occurs, tho. But I'm guessing Garth is a little gun shy this year after how things went for Nino last year and I wouldn't blame him for that. You don't go from 1 goal in 55 games to being a top producer in the NHL in 6 months.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:42 PM ET
Feel like I'm tossing raw meat into a lion cage here, but here you go trade junkies...

All Habs (Canadiens) @All_Habs
TSN's Bob McKenzie says that the Subban - Bergevin standoff will likely end in a trade. I suspect that he is right. #allhabs

- eichiefs9

I say let's start with "Nina" and Visnovski...maybe throw in a prospect like Pedan for Subban...
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jan 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
I say let's start with "Nina" and Visnovski...maybe throw in a prospect like Pedan for Subban...
- kear20



I'm hearing Nino, and Bailey for Subban and a 3rd rounder!!!
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
I'm hearing Nino, and Bailey for Subban and a 3rd rounder!!!
- jimmc7722

source?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
source?
- mighty13duck


My buddy is a scout for the Habs... there's alot of chatter out there right now.

The only problem is Bailey is injured... can't trade him until he comes back.

Might have to substitute him with another player.

Looks like the Habs are going to move him before the weekend is over if they can get the right deal.

They would like to have some closure before their home game on Sunday!!!

The fans are going nuts there.

I don't think Subban or the Habs are budging on this.

Tavares will be happy if it happens!!!
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:04 PM ET
My buddy is a scout for the Habs... there's alot of chatter out there right now.

Looks like the Habs are going to move him before the weekend is over if they can get the right deal.

I don't think Subban or the Habs are budging on this.

Tavares will be happy if it happens!!!

- jimmc7722

I definitely like the idea. We would have a great defense Hamonic Amac, Streit Subban, Visnovsky Carkner Strait
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