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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Nice avatar.
- canadianpenfan

It fits.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
2002-2011 second overall picks in the Draft:

Eric Staal
Evgeni Malkin
Bobby Ryan
J. Staal
JVR
D. Doughty
V. Hedman
T. Seguin
G. Landeskog

It really is a cruel joke that the year the Flyers sucked they got shafted and did not get a franchise type player in the draft. Just unreal.

- PLindbergh31



Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:30 PM ET

- tangent_man

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Firing Lava is a joke imo.

Switching to a defensive minded system, or the trap with that rag tag crew on D will somehow improve this team? The forwards in general are below average defensively. It just seems like people want to make a change, just to win a few games.

The Flyers would not have won jack poop this season anyway. The D needs to be re-done and some snarl/leadership infused into the offense.

For years the Flyers have made knee-jerk reactions. For once, one god damn time dont do it. The players on this team are a weird mix and just not that good. Thats the number one problem.

- flyer_nutter

It looks like Lavys run out of

Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
2002-2011 second overall picks in the Draft:

Eric Staal
Evgeni Malkin
Bobby Ryan
J. Staal
JVR
D. Doughty
V. Hedman
T. Seguin
G. Landeskog

It really is a cruel joke that the year the Flyers sucked they got shafted and did not get a franchise type player in the draft. Just unreal.

- PLindbergh31


wow thanks for sharing that, That is undoubtedly a sick sick joke. i mean c'monnnn
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Firing Lava is a joke imo.

Switching to a defensive minded system, or the trap with that rag tag crew on D will somehow improve this team? The forwards in general are below average defensively. It just seems like people want to make a change, just to win a few games.

The Flyers would not have won jack poop this season anyway. The D needs to be re-done and some snarl/leadership infused into the offense.

For years the Flyers have made knee-jerk reactions. For once, one god damn time dont do it. The players on this team are a weird mix and just not that good. Thats the number one problem.

- flyer_nutter


THIS!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Interesting blog/old article from 1995 from Rich Hofmann:

http://www.philly.com/phi...gs/hofmann/188044261.html
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Interesting blog/old article from 1995 from Rich Hofmann:

http://www.philly.com/phi...gs/hofmann/188044261.html

- Flyskippy


Lindros couldn't count...Bad captain
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Fun? Never heard of it.
- BulliesPhan87


Fun?

Fun is hauling ass out of bed for a job interview when it's -30 something outside, your truck sounds like it wants to puke its guts all over the driveway when you go to start it, and there is an accident at every. Single. Intersection. Around. Where. You. Need. To. Go.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Firing Lava is a joke imo.

Switching to a defensive minded system, or the trap with that rag tag crew on D will somehow improve this team? The forwards in general are below average defensively. It just seems like people want to make a change, just to win a few games.

The Flyers would not have won jack poop this season anyway. The D needs to be re-done and some snarl/leadership infused into the offense.

For years the Flyers have made knee-jerk reactions. For once, one god damn time dont do it. The players on this team are a weird mix and just not that good. Thats the number one problem.

- flyer_nutter


Yeah, why make adjustments to try and win games now. People felt they wouldn't win "jack" anyhow, so why bother trying at all? Start Leighton, by all means. Don't bother trying to win, because hey, they're not favorites to win the Cup so why bother at all?

Good stuff.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Fun?

Fun is hauling ass out of bed for a job interview when it's -30 something outside, your truck sounds like it wants to puke its guts all over the driveway when you go to start it, and there is an accident at every. Single. Intersection. Around. Where. You. Need. To. Go.

- MunsterMike


Captain Johnny, did you yell, "Charleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene!"?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Lindros couldn't count...Bad captain
- Jsaquella

He was only off by 1 zillion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Yeah, why make adjustments to try and win games now. People felt they wouldn't win "jack" anyhow, so why bother trying at all? Start Leighton, by all means. Don't bother trying to win, because hey, they're not favorites to win the Cup so why bother at all?

Good stuff.

- Jsaquella



Well said. His post is exactly what he doesn't want the Flyers to do. A knee jerk reaction.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
Yeah, why make adjustments to try and win games now. People felt they wouldn't win "jack" anyhow, so why bother trying at all? Start Leighton, by all means. Don't bother trying to win, because hey, they're not favorites to win the Cup so why bother at all?

Good stuff.

- Jsaquella


Nobody is talking about minor "adjustments". Which I personally think have been made as I continually see the Flyers start off games attempting to narrow the gap between the forwards and D.

When things go south, they panic.

What do you mean in terms of "bothering at all"?

Edit: My post was about the talk of firing Lava first and foremost.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
He was only off by 1 zillion.
- Flyskippy


Imagine Benoit Hogue and Rod Brind'Amour on the ice together...that's like 80 feet of nose
bgratch
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Are we in the 2real School of Mathematics again??
- Giroux_Is_God



Did Flyers not lose 4 straight to close out the season last year to Devils?

4+3 =7

Yes there's turnover, but this team/ franchise has lost 7 straight for my viewing displeasure.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Well said. His post is exactly what he doesn't want the Flyers to do. A knee jerk reaction.
- MJL


Of doing what exactly? Letting the year run its course, and evaluating the kids they have? Then making the needed changes in the summer? Instead of firing the coach right now?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
Nobody is talking about minor "adjustments". Which I personally think have been made as I continually see the Flyers start off games attempting to narrow the gap between the forwards and D.

When things go south, they panic.

What do you mean in terms of "bothering at all"?

- flyer_nutter



Keeping the gap tight between the Forwards and Defense is basic Hockey. Something that is taught in Pee Wee Hockey on up.
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
Captain Johnny, did you yell, "Charleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene!"?
- Flyskippy


I was yelling something...
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yeah, why make adjustments to try and win games now. People felt they wouldn't win "jack" anyhow, so why bother trying at all? Start Leighton, by all means. Don't bother trying to win, because hey, they're not favorites to win the Cup so why bother at all?

Good stuff.

- Jsaquella


not sure how you got this from Nutter's post? I thought he was saying the Flyers should stay-the-course. Make adjustments over time to build a good team. Don't just blow it up or make a desperation move like they have a tendency to do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
Of doing what exactly? Letting the year run its course, and evaluating the kids they have? Then making the needed changes in the summer? Instead of firing the coach right now?
- flyer_nutter



The knee jerk reaction is not from the Flyers. But from posters going overboard and overreacting to a team that simply isn't playing well. 45 games left in the Season.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
Keeping the gap tight between the Forwards and Defense is basic Hockey. Something that is taught in Pee Wee Hockey on up.
- MJL


Not going to play but thank you. Perhaps twitter would be more to your liking.

What I have seen if the Flyers try to narrow that gap more so this season than previous seasons. What that has created is the forwards not being able to use their speed completely.

The team is trying to compensate for a slow D-core that has well below average in the transition game. Thats problem #1 to me.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
I was yelling something...
- MunsterMike

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
not sure how you got this from Nutter's post? I thought he was saying the Flyers should stay-the-course. Make adjustments over time to build a good team. Don't just blow it up or make a desperation move like they have a tendency to do.
- Dkos


Ego's running wild on hockeybuzz.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
Not going to play but thank you. Perhaps twitter would be more to your liking.

What I have seen if the Flyers try to narrow that gap more so this season than previous seasons. What that has created is the forwards not being able to use their speed completely.

The team is trying to compensate for a slow D-core that has well below average in the transition game. Thats problem #1 to me.

- flyer_nutter


truth defense is slow, just getting skated around, too much talent in the atlantic to ignore this...
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