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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
THIS!! I thought the little gaffe in Vancouver of letting a 45fter in would get Dubey settled... I actually said yesterday he will be good... Then he goes and (frank)ing completely provides no help to the team... if we had a kipper we would go undefeated all year... as all he does is bail out shotty team and defense in Calgary... That is a deal I would love to make... as we know sooner or later Calgary is gonna have to tear it all down... Nonetheless I still think Dubey can prove a bit... but come playoff time I would not rest much confidence in his abilities... he continues to be a (frank) up and let the soft ones in which sets us back right at the start of games... He is a back up and an expensive one at that...
- saskoil21


you can't put it all on dubnyk. he didn't play well, no doubt, but the team defense in that game was AWFUL. the sharks had SO MANY clean looks from in close, i'm surprised they didn't actually score more. no goalie is gonna succeed when the opposition has about 15 quality scoring chances from within 10 feet of the net.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
they actually only won ONE game. but lets be fair, it was against the powerhouse habs..........
- sensarmy_11

and now Kadri is untouchable..
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
Its all about chemistry with him it seems. Detroit or Vancouver might be a good fit for him. He's slowly getting better at his all around game, wins a lot of faceoffs now.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


i think he would be a solid 3rd or 4th line center. i have NO DOUBT that as kadri gains some confidence, and improves his overall game, bozak will find his ass on the 4th line faster than bryzgalov can give up 4 goals.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
you can't put it all on dubnyk. he didn't play well, no doubt, but the team defense in that game was AWFUL. the sharks had SO MANY clean looks from in close, i'm surprised they didn't actually score more. no goalie is gonna succeed when the opposition has about 15 quality scoring chances from within 10 feet of the net.
- sensarmy_11


You're right. Dubby can't take the blame. Total defensive zone coverage was abysmal. Just one of those games. New coach I'm sure new systems. Give it time I guess. Lots of confusion such as both schultzs going behind the net.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
i think he would be a solid 3rd or 4th line center. i have NO DOUBT that as kadri gains some confidence, and improves his overall game, bozak will find his ass on the 4th line faster than bryzgalov can give up 4 goals.
- sensarmy_11

haha.. well third line. I don't think you will see Kessel or Bozak on the Leafs by next years trade deadline.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
you can't put it all on dubnyk. he didn't play well, no doubt, but the team defense in that game was AWFUL. the sharks had SO MANY clean looks from in close, i'm surprised they didn't actually score more. no goalie is gonna succeed when the opposition has about 15 quality scoring chances from within 10 feet of the net.
- sensarmy_11

I agree. I think like two goals, one for sure can be pinned on Dubnyk. The others he didnt have much of a chance. It was a turd of a period. Possibly the worst Ive ever seen.

They needed this I said ladt night. They needed to be brought back to reality. Hypes over. Now they can play.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
You're right. Dubby can't take the blame. Total defensive zone coverage was abysmal. Just one of those games. New coach I'm sure new systems. Give it time I guess. Lots of confusion such as both schultzs going behind the net.
- ystoil


i think he can certainly take some of it, but it's unfair to put it all on is shoulders.

that being said, i still don't think he's the answer in edmonton. speaking from experience, watching years of VERY GOOD ottawa teams get screwed by questionable goaltending, the oilers will need to address the goalie situation. i think dubnyk is alright, but it would be a shame to waste all the talent up front because you have a sub par goalie.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
haha.. well third line. I don't think you will see Kessel or Bozak on the Leafs by next years trade deadline.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


lol, kessel leaving will cement burke's legacy beautifully.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
lol, kessel leaving will cement burke's legacy beautifully.
- sensarmy_11

Or when Rielly lifts the cup?
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
I could honestly see Bozak doing really well with the Oilers. When he plays with skilled wingers, he puts up lots of points. He's definitely not a passenger. Also, he more than replaces Gagne in the faceoff circle. Dubnyk to Toronto doesn't make much sense though. Considering what we're working with, it's a lateral movement at best. A more expensive one at that.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
Or when Rielly lifts the cup?
- Arctic_AARDVARK


you mean when he's 44, and visits the HHOF with his kids.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
like i said before, oilers are missing true veteran leadership. have all the talent but no chemisrty. i (frank)ing hope they dont turn out to be the caps of 4 years ago.
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:17 AM ET
you mean when he's 44, and visits the HHOF with his kids.
- sensarmy_11


and shows them his name on the Cup.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:18 AM ET
I could honestly see Bozak doing really well with the Oilers. When he plays with skilled wingers, he puts up lots of points. He's definitely not a passenger. Also, he more than replaces Gagne in the faceoff circle. Dubnyk to Toronto doesn't make much sense though. Considering what we're working with, it's a lateral movement at best. A more expensive one at that.
- Jeffmt


bozak is ABSOLUTELY a passenger. he averages about 35pts a year, playing on the top line of a high scoring team. i realize that leaf fans are gonna defend him, cuz he's on your team, but he's probably the worst top line center in the entire league.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:19 AM ET
and shows them his name on the Cup.
- Old Pappy


after he got traded to ottawa...
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:20 AM ET
you mean when he's 44, and visits the HHOF with his kids.
- sensarmy_11

No when Alfie is 44 maybe
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
No when Alfie is 44 maybe
- Arctic_AARDVARK


wasn't that 3 years ago....
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
like i said before, oilers are missing true veteran leadership. have all the talent but no chemisrty. i (frank)ing hope they dont turn out to be the caps of 4 years ago.
- munky123

smyth is a great veteran leadership kinda guy.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
It is what it is.
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
like i said before, oilers are missing true veteran leadership. have all the talent but no chemisrty. i (frank)ing hope they dont turn out to be the caps of 4 years ago.
- munky123



The Oilers have soooo many untouchables that the only way they will become elite is to finish last so often that the current crop become the veterans they're looking for! Lets see, according to Richard, they have 6-8 HOF players already, yet they need something else, so he keeps trying to conjure up scenarios where the Oil trade away a bunch OKC players (wannabe's and neverwillbes') for other team's top line talent. Not happening.

Tambellini is going to have to give up something to get something.
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
bozak is ABSOLUTELY a passenger. he averages about 35pts a year, playing on the top line of a high scoring team. i realize that leaf fans are gonna defend him, cuz he's on your team, but he's probably the worst top line center in the entire league.
- sensarmy_11


He's not a top line centre, just plays there because they haven't found anyone else. That being said, he has some chemistry with the other two.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:25 AM ET
You can do the same with your Coffee claims.



- robin_steele264



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RichardHertz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 10.25.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
There's only one way to describe this thread.

longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
I agree. I think like two goals, one for sure can be pinned on Dubnyk. The others he didnt have much of a chance. It was a turd of a period. Possibly the worst Ive ever seen.

They needed this I said ladt night. They needed to be brought back to reality. Hypes over. Now they can play.

- sanfordnson

Agreed, what I did notice last night after te first period I was hoping the Oilers didn't get double digits in GA by the end of the game. That being said the kids played so-so and still tried to make a game of it. If Eb's chance did go in last night what a finish to the game it would be.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:31 AM ET
There's only one way to describe this thread.


- RichardHertz

The only one who rides the short bus is the oilers equipment manager.
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