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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jan 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
You're the one administering the poke check...
- Flyfreaky



That reminds me.... Howie Meeker once said: (and I am paraphrasing a little)

The problem with (forgot players name) is that when he is down and ready in the crease, he will never bang it home with one hand on his stick.

Bow-chicka-wow-wow
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
it's all fun and games until i high stick you... and then it becomes a party.
- RealityChecker

I didn't know you could high stick with a three inch shaft...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
That reminds me.... Howie Meeker once said: (and I am paraphrasing a little)

The problem with (forgot players name) is that when he is down and ready in the crease, he will never bang it home with one hand on his stick.

Bow-chicka-wow-wow

- Beatle_john

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
I didn't know you could high stick with a three inch shaft...
- Flyfreaky

it might be small but it's a got a wicked curve!
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:09 PM ET
it might be small but it's a got a wicked curve!
- RealityChecker

Flash27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Joined: 01.22.2013

Jan 22 @ 8:11 PM ET
i dont think you need to be an 'insider" or an "insider" in imagination only, to see that Gillis is trying to turn the heat up on the Leafs
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:14 PM ET

- Flyfreaky

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
Bryz
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:34 PM ET
Boys, does this help???


- geta02it


MY DREAM GIRL, LOVE U KALEY





OBGYN Kenobi
Joined: 03.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 8:40 PM ET
Scrivezina has better numbers than Luongo. heh
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:40 PM ET
MY DREAM GIRL, LOVE U KALEY






- GCHonda



Dream the only way u come close...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:42 PM ET
Scrivezina has better numbers than Luongo. heh
- OBGYN Kenobi


Scrivezina??...Thats a load of weird....
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 8:44 PM ET
My guess is lu for marcus johanson in washington works for both teams and its off the radar washington finally gets a legit goalie who can mentor the kids van gets a great third line center who will eventually become a number 2
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
Bryz
- Symba007

I can't wait to hear all those (frank)ing brainwashed Flyer fans defend that douche and sh*t filled defense...
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
i dont think you need to be an 'insider" or an "insider" in imagination only, to see that Gillis is trying to turn the heat up on the Leafs
- Flash27

New Port Richey? I have been there so many times, my Dad has a condo there, lol
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:47 PM ET
It's kinda surprising that so many feel Vancity is "screwed" with their current cap situation.

The only pending RFA's that need raises next year are Weise, Tanev, and Schroeder. Qualifying them ensures they are Canuck property.

Pending UFA's are Malhotra,Raymond,Higgins,Lapierre,Ebbett,Volpatti,Alberts,Barker,Vandermeer

I only see Higgins and Lapierre returning, Raymond will be a part of any trade of Schneider or Luongo or not re-signed. Malhotra will likely retire due to his eye condition (feel quite badly for him) but that is the reality. Only D I see them bringing back is Barker if he plays well enough as a 5/6 D man. Connaughton or Corrado will play next year as well. Alberts / Vandermeer are expendable.

So at the start of all this, the Canucks currently have 3.9 Million in cap space next year.

Ballard will be bought out or traded.....add 4.2 million

Luongo/Schnedier trade ...... add 4.0 or 5.3 Million

So all told Canucks will have 12.1 or 13.4 Million in cap space next year. Kinda surprising when you do your research isnt it???

http://capgeek.com/canucks

- Soonerorlater


The flaw with your numbers is that you're not including ANY SALARY coming back in a Lu or Schneider trade, which just will not happen, especially since Gillis "is looking for roster players."

Right now Vancouver has $3,896,667 in cap space available for next season with only 14 under contract.

So let's assume that Ballard is bought out adding $4.2M in cap space, therefore giving Vancouver a total of $8,096,667 and 13 under contract.

Let's also assume that Luongo ($5.3M cap) is traded for a package of players that see's Vancouver adding two roster players with roughly the same as Lu's $5.3M cap hit (conservative), leaving Vancouver with the same cap space after Ballard's buyout, but an additional roster player has been added, therefore giving Vancouver $8,096,667 and 14 players under contract.

As you say, from the list that you provided only Higgins and Lapierre will most likely be resigned, with raises. Currently Higgins and Lappy carry a $2.9M cap
hit. With CONSERVATIVE raises, let's assume their combined cap hit will be $4M for next season. That leaves Vancouver with $4,096,667M in cap space with 16 under contract AND STILL 7 PLAYERS TO SIGN! That's not even close to 7 league minimum players

Even if Vancouver added entry level contracts, THEY'RE NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE to reaching the 2013 $64.3M cap!

So who is the second buyout, Booth's $4.25M? Sacrificing a "2nd liner" and giving Vancouver ~$8.35M to sign 8.

Vancouver is in bad shape, buddy. Even if Vancouver added 7/8 league minimum players to squeak under the cap, does that sound like a "contender" to you? It certainly doesn't leave them any room to improve come trade deadline either. Sorry to break it to you.

"Kinda surprising when you do your research, isn't it???"
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jan 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
NJ continues to prove everyone right. No chance at the post season.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:57 PM ET
NJ continues to prove everyone right. No chance at the post season.
- WayneZ


2-3 games in...get back on the bus.....
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
Dream the only way u come close...
- Fruitcakenipple



I'm pretty sure Kaley is off the radar for all the guy's in here. Safe bet.
Soonerorlater
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2013

Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
The flaw with your numbers is that you're not including ANY SALARY coming back in a Lu or Schneider trade, which just will not happen, especially since Gillis "is looking for roster players."

Right now Vancouver has $3,896,667 in cap space available for next season with only 14 under contract.

So let's assume that Ballard is bought out adding $4.2M in cap space, therefore giving Vancouver a total of $8,096,667 and 13 under contract.

Let's also assume that Luongo ($5.3M cap) is traded for a package of players that see's Vancouver adding two roster players with roughly the same as Lu's $5.3M cap hit (conservative), leaving Vancouver with the same cap space after Ballard's buyout, but an additional roster player has been added, therefore giving Vancouver $8,096,667 and 14 players under contract.

As you say, from the list that you provided only Higgins and Lapierre will most likely be resigned, with raises. Currently Higgins and Lappy carry a $2.9M cap
hit. With CONSERVATIVE raises, let's assume their combined cap hit will be $4M for next season. That leaves Vancouver with $4,096,667M in cap space with 16 under contract AND STILL 7 PLAYERS TO SIGN! That's not even close to 7 league minimum players

Even if Vancouver added entry level contracts, THEY'RE NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE to reaching the 2013 $64.3M cap!

So who is the second buyout, Booth's $4.25M? Sacrificing a "2nd liner" and giving Vancouver ~$8.35M to sign 8.

Vancouver is in bad shape, buddy. Even if Vancouver added 7/8 league minimum players to squeak under the cap, does that sound like a "contender" to you? It certainly doesn't leave them any room to improve come trade deadline either. Sorry to break it to you.

"Kinda surprising when you do your research, isn't it???"

- As_I_See_It



Its all how you spin it pal. I understand that being a Leaf fan you look at everything from the "worst possible" perspective but we dont do that out here. Van will be just fine with the cap....We can't afford to take the same $$ back in a Luongo trade so thats not gonna happen. I'll post this again in the summer when the cap goes down and Van is still under the cap........this is more likely scenario.

1) sedin sedin burrows - 16.7
2) booth kesler kassian - 10.1
3) hansen ======> need to re-sign lappierre and higgins who are making 1.0 and 1.9 respectively - don't see much of a raise if at all for either -- let's say they re-sign or other comparable players are signed for 3.5m so 3rd line is - 4.85
4) jensen schroeder and another 1m banger - 3m

forwards = 34.65

bieksa hamhuis - 9.1
edler garrison - 9.6
tanev + 1m #6dman - 2

d= 20.7

goalies
schneider lack - 4.75


that's a total of 60.1. leaves 4.4m to sign 3 players (or leaves 4.4m to absorb in money coming back from a luongo trade).

also contingent on a ballard buyout.

TML93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Kassian is an RFA 2014-2015....you can look that up.

Bought out players receive 2/3 of whats left on their contract and that doesnt count against the cap.

I'm sure Luongo gets traded and Canucks pick up some of his salary....but that doesnt count againts the cap either

- Soonerorlater


True Kassian is an RFA in 14/15.

But if the Canucks pick up some of Luongo's salary ( I can't see them doing that) it would count against the cap, look at the Lombardi trade to Phoenix.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Kaley is off the radar for all the guy's in here. Safe bet.
- GCHonda

She's massaged my spare tire from time to time...
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
My guess is lu for marcus johanson in washington works for both teams and its off the radar washington finally gets a legit goalie who can mentor the kids van gets a great third line center who will eventually become a number 2
- The_Kuze



Judging by the score tonight, Washington's logic for wanting Lu may go up 100%. Or they could try to get Thomas. I've always liked Thomas better.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
2-3 games in...get back on the bus.....
- Fruitcakenipple


History dictates, we have no shot.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM ET
She's massaged my spare tire from time to time...
- Flyfreaky



SUH WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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