From a relative and probabilistic perspective...the leafs are a lot closer to making the playoffs than the canucks are at winning the stanley cup.

Just saying...
- Pen15

Why would your compare that. That is like saying the Leafs are better at missing the playoffs the the Canucks. Sweet that is something I would want to cheer for.

Toronto hasn't had anything since before HD TV ... What Like 20 years ago.... WOW your Gm's must have really Pooped the bed.
- SMP8719

They have. But things have turned around and they're slowly getting better.

Unlike your GM who is only digging a deeper hole.

The Boston Bruins absolutely love Burke's Pedigree.... And I am sure that you would hate to have Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton in your line up. Nevermind Rask.

Gillis has made mistakes... the Grabner Trade was bad.... And the hodgson trade is still un decided. But he has signed many players returning or on the free agent market ( hamhuis and Garrison) to below market value. When we signed Luo to that contract there were many teams that would have given him that much or more money. Look at Bryzgalov on the open market.
- SMP8719

Garrison was a 6th 7th defensman for a good portion of his career on the Panthers.One good season does not justifie why he should be making 4million a year.

What he means is that the team be patient and dont sacrifice picks and youth to try and go for anything right now. If the team makes it, they make it, just dont sell your leg to help you win a race.
- systemtool

Fair enough. I just don't understand "tanking the season"

Toronto hasn't had anything since before HD TV ... What Like 20 years ago.... WOW your Gm's must have really Pooped the bed.
- SMP8719

I've never understood how any logical Vancouver fan thinks that's ground to yap the leafs on.

Vancouver hasn't won anything ever. Not since dinosaurs.

The intelligent people in your fan base are grimacing everytime they see that approach go into action.

Does this lovely lady belong to you?
- Deadmau55

I wish...

It's the new Flyers logo...

- Flyfreaky

Whoa.... speaking of Orca's

But you have a better shot with high end draft picks that you've developed over the years...kind of like LA did with Quick, Kopitar, Doughty, Brown, etc.
- Pen15

Dont forget the ones they used to get Richards and Carter to fill the missing pieces to the puzzle.

Whoa.... speaking of Orca's
- TandA4Flames

The Rask deal wasn't Burke. But thanks for playing.

And since when is Garrison below market value? 1 decent year and he's worth that contract?! You Nucks fans are out to lunch with your valuations!
- Pen15

He was offered more. But wanted to come home.

But doesn't he still have like 9 years left on his contract? In that amount of time surely ANY team could rebuild and make the playoffs right? Oh wait... the Leafs.
- Senators2112

haha good one. that's almost as funny as the sens not having won any stanley cups ever.

I laughed when I heard this this morning.

How is it well-played. It is obvious what Gillis is doing.

He is getting desparate.

Garrison was a 6th 7th defensman for a good portion of his career on the Panthers.One good season does not justifie why he should be making 4million a year.
- Alexzanki

They'll never get it. But Jeff Finger Garrison will be exposed.

Interesting....Obviously that other player the other team would have to move would be a goalie....Bryz? Doubt anyone wants that contract. So that puts another potential #1 starting goalie on the market....could get very interesting in the next little while.

But you have a better shot with high end draft picks that you've developed over the years...kind of like LA did with Quick, Kopitar, Doughty, Brown, etc.

EDIT: How many of those guys were traded away from LA for a quick fix of JUST making the playoffs?
- Pen15

I get what you are saying, but to answer your question, quite a few.

Most recently Jack Johnson.

I've never understood how any logical Vancouver fan thinks that's ground to yap the leafs on.

Vancouver hasn't won anything ever. Not since dinosaurs.

The intelligent people in your fan base are grimacing everytime they see that approach go into action.
- joel878

Vancouver "Millionares" cup champs 1915 baby.

haha Garrison below value? Pick up the crack pipe man. At least you'll have an excuse. 6 year deal for a guy whos had 1 good season. You'll eat anything Gillis feeds you, wont you?
- systemtool

We weren't the only ones out there offering him a contract.

haha good one. that's almost as funny as the sens not having won any stanley cups ever.
- sensnucksnocups

The Sens and their fans are like that one fat chick in a fight where the rest are all men. You dont know whether to punch her, slap her or just walk away.

Why would your compare that. That is like saying the Leafs are better at missing the playoffs the the Canucks. Sweet that is something I would want to cheer for.
- SMP8719

It's a comparison that signals a change in direction for each organization.

The Canucks won't be getting closer to a cup anytime soon...let's face it, you guys peaked 2yrs ago; it's all downhill from here.

The leafs on the other hand, haven't made the playoffs since the last lockout (given), but have begun to finally build a team the right way.

Vancouver "Millionares" cup champs 1915 baby.
- Boinker

Rumour has it the Kaiser was happy when the Millionaires won the cup

Why the F*$*..* woudl Ottawa deal for Luongo?!?! Blows my mind...

We weren't the only ones out there offering him a contract.
- SMP8719

Yea, probably not.

Im sure another GM offered him 5 million for 3 years for a one year wonder. You guys got a steal at 4.5 million a year for 6 years. Right?

We weren't the only ones out there offering him a contract.
- SMP8719

You were the only one's offering a ridiculous contract...

Luongo holds more value than Vinny. So They;d have to throw in a high end prospect as well. Luongo is the better player right now and is on a better contract.
- Boinker

Why the F*$*..* woudl Ottawa deal for Luongo?!?! Blows my mind...
- themaynia

Because hes an all star goalie.