Come on dude! Eberle is one of the most valuable trading chips in all of hockey, I doubt that Lu and Kassian alone would even be considered for a second.
- Nucker101

I honestly don't think it's that unreasonable. Maybe Edm throws in Khabibulin (sp?) to offset some of Lou's salary, and a 2nd or 3rd comes back from the Canucks.

Still don't think it would work/happen for a number of other reasons, but I don't think the value is off.

I honestly don't think it's that unreasonable. Maybe Edm throws in Khabibulin (sp?) to offset some of Lou's salary, and a 2nd or 3rd comes back from the Canucks.

Still don't think it would work/happen for a number of other reasons, but I don't think the value is off.
- Fosco

Maybe It's just me then but if I'm Tambellini I laugh and hang up. Eberle is one of those guys that you just don't trade, guy has some absolutely sick hands and ability, and moves, good character and a clutch player. I think people in Edmonton would riot if that trade happened.

Maybe It's just me then but if I'm Tambellini I laugh and hang up. Eberle is one of those guys that you just don't trade, guy has some absolutely sick hands and ability, and moves, good character and a clutch player. I think people in Edmonton would riot if that trade happened.
- Nucker101

If you look across their "untouchable" core (Eberle, Hall, RNH, Shultz, Yakupov) you'd have to imagine Eberle would top that list so I agree I can't see them dealing him unless it's for a Weber or Chara.

As bad as they need a goalie I can't see any scenario that sees Lu going there for one of those guys, or any scenario where Gillis wouldn't demand one of those guys given they're in our division. EDM is a no-trade zone for Lu.

My friend just re-tweeted this:

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey
Just heard from a solid source that there is another Team in the Luongo Mix. Edmonton apparently has offered Sam Gagner, will Lou say yes?


And this isn't just some fake insider Twitter guy, he's a radio host but I'm not sure if he's actually legit. I'll say this again though, Luongo on the Oilers scares the (frank) outta me!


Edit: Gagner's dad works for the Canucks according to Rimer as well.

My friend just re-tweeted this:

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey
Just heard from a solid source that there is another Team in the Luongo Mix. Edmonton apparently has offered Sam Gagner, will Lou say yes?


And this isn't just some fake insider Twitter guy, he's a radio host but I'm not sure if he's actually legit. I'll say this again though, Luongo on the Oilers scares the (frank) outta me!
- Nucker101

See my above post on what Gillis would ask for (justifiably or not). He's not going to give them the cup.

If you look across their "untouchable" core (Eberle, Hall, RNH, Shultz, Yakupov) you'd have to imagine Eberle would top that list so I agree I can't see them dealing him unless it's for a Weber or Chara.

As bad as they need a goalie I can't see any scenario that sees Lu going there for one of those guys, or any scenario where Gillis wouldn't demand one of those guys given they're in our division. EDM is a no-trade zone for Lu.
- AlexF

I agree 100%.

See my above post on what Gillis would ask for (justifiably or not). He's not going to give them the cup.
- AlexF

He's not going to be traded anywhere in the West where we'd see him more than 2 games a season. Unless we're doing Luongo+ for Benn, I don't see it happening. I think it's likely he's traded to either Philly who has the money and has plenty of quality centers they could offer us; NYI who has plenty of young cheap talent; FLA or TB where Luongo would gladly waive his NTC to go.

Maybe It's just me then but if I'm Tambellini I laugh and hang up. Eberle is one of those guys that you just don't trade, guy has some absolutely sick hands and ability, and moves, good character and a clutch player. I think people in Edmonton would riot if that trade happened.
- Nucker101

Tambellini isn't going to be the one laughing if he doesn't balance out that lineup a bit. They get an elite goalie, and a big physical top6 forward with loads of potential. Both are much needed on that team.

Like I said, there are other reasons I don't think the Oil would trade Eberle, and it might not be the entire deal, but it would be a decent framework, value wise.

Has Kassian's stock fallen that much that he's not considered a valuable asset?

Tambellini isn't going to be the one laughing if he doesn't balance out that lineup a bit. They get an elite goalie, and a big physical top6 forward with loads of potential. Both are much needed on that team.

Like I said, there are other reasons I don't think the Oil would trade Eberle, and it might not be the entire deal, but it would be a decent framework, value wise.

Has Kassian's stock fallen that much that he's not considered a valuable asset?
- Fosco

He'd look real good on the oilers, but then again he looks good on the canucks too

Tambellini isn't going to be the one laughing if he doesn't balance out that lineup a bit. They get an elite goalie, and a big physical top6 forward with loads of potential. Both are much needed on that team.

Like I said, there are other reasons I don't think the Oil would trade Eberle, and it might not be the entire deal, but it would be a decent framework, value wise.

Has Kassian's stock fallen that much that he's not considered a valuable asset?
- Fosco

I agree that they are needs, but there's still no way you move a player like Eberle unless you're getting a young star goalie or d-man back(Lu isn't young and Kassian isn't proven at all). Value-wise, I think Luongo's contract limits his value and makes him less valuable than a typical top 10/15 goalie. Kassian's still a very valuable asset because of the upside but no he's not even close to Eberle. At worst Eberle is going to the same player he was last year, an annual 60-70 point player and if he gets better he's going to be a franchise point per game type of player. Kassian might just top out as a very good bottom 6 player and Luongo is an again goalie and a declining asset.

He'd look real good on the oilers, but then again he looks good on the canucks too
- pker2theend

He would look great for sure in their top 6, exactly the type of forward they lack but Eberle is just a special player and a potential franchise player as well.

I agree that they are needs, but there's still no way you move a player like Eberle unless you're getting a young star goalie or d-man back(Lu isn't young and Kassian isn't proven at all). Value-wise, I think Luongo's contract limits his value and makes him less valuable than a typical top 10/15 goalie. Kassian's still a very valuable asset because of the upside but no he's not even close to Eberle. At worst Eberle is going to the same player he was last year, an annual 60-70 point player and if he gets better he's going to be a franchise point per game type of player. Kassian might just top out as a very good bottom 6 player and Luongo is an again goalie and a declining asset.
- Nucker101

A lot will depend on how Eberle handles his first big injury, his game is his speed and his hands, the way he plays and skates he's ripe for a major knee injury. I can see him turning into Gagner-lite if he's not careful. Of all the young stars on the Oilers, I can see J. Schultz being that franchise player, he's got the size and skill and if he can learn to be more defensively responsible, he'll win more Norris trophies than Lidstrom.

A lot will depend on how Eberle handles his first big injury, his game is his speed and his hands, the way he plays and skates he's ripe for a major knee injury. I can see him turning into Gagner-lite if he's not careful. Of all the young stars on the Oilers, I can see J. Schultz being that franchise player, he's got the size and skill and if he can learn to be more defensively responsible, he'll win more Norris trophies than Lidstrom.
- DariusKnight

Wow, that's some high praise for Schultz. I agree that he looks like a special player, he definitely fits that Neidermeyer/Lidstrom mold if he can develop a better defensive game and he will put up some big numbers on a team with RNH, Eberle, Hall and Yakupov for years to come. Eberle is my favourite of their young forwards, he rarely seems to get hit unlike Hall and is a better scorer and more explosive than RNH.

If we trade Lou to Edm they will have a cup within the next couple of years.
No thank you.

If we trade Lou to Edm they will have a cup within the next couple of years.
No thank you.
- Whiskey-Tango

I like the Isles as a trading partner but would Luongo want to go there? They're just as big as a laughing stock as the Leafs have been except they play in a bad arena, have a horrible/cheap owner and have a really long way to go to become a contender.

I agree /They have the horses to make those trades.

Just some random thoughts for trades like Yakupov + for Lucic would be a good start


Lucic RNH Eberle

Hall Gagner Hemskey



Yakupov

A trade maybe later in the year that might be considered if Kassian becomes a bull on the Sedin line

LU Kassian /Gagner Eberle. .I know they will sh!t .If the season unfolds and they struggle they may decide to make moves. Otherwise they are 5 years away.
- VANTEL

They have to take advantage of those ECL`s or they`re screwed.

I like the Isles as a trading partner but would Luongo want to go there? They're just as big as a laughing stock as the Leafs have been except they play in a bad arena, have a horrible/cheap owner and have a really long way to go to become a contender.
- Nucker101

From what we've been discussing here - New York or Edmonton - where would one prefer to live? Not sure there's even a choice here, even if the Isles do suck.

I honestly don't think it's that unreasonable. Maybe Edm throws in Khabibulin (sp?) to offset some of Lou's salary, and a 2nd or 3rd comes back from the Canucks.

Still don't think it would work/happen for a number of other reasons, but I don't think the value is off.
- Fosco

You vastly undervalue eberle. There's maybe a handful of elite superstars the oilers would consider moving him for.
And of all the crazy talk of 100 untouchables on the oilers. he's prob at the very top. a special player in every sense of the word.

As other dude says, edm fans would riot in the streets.

lu and kassian aint even close.[/img]

A lot will depend on how Eberle handles his first big injury, his game is his speed and his hands, the way he plays and skates he's ripe for a major knee injury. I can see him turning into Gagner-lite if he's not careful. Of all the young stars on the Oilers, I can see J. Schultz being that franchise player, he's got the size and skill and if he can learn to be more defensively responsible, he'll win more Norris trophies than Lidstrom.
- DariusKnight

If he blows his knee out i guess. But couldnt the same be said for any player?

There's no comparison between sam gagner and jordan eberle

They have to take advantage of those ECL`s or they`re screwed.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Eberle and hall are already signed long term. Schultz isnt on an elc.

Btw, chicago has 5 core star players signed long term and are still a contender every year

He's not going to be traded anywhere in the West where we'd see him more than 2 games a season. Unless we're doing Luongo+ for Benn, I don't see it happening. I think it's likely he's traded to either Philly who has the money and has plenty of quality centers they could offer us; NYI who has plenty of young cheap talent; FLA or TB where Luongo would gladly waive his NTC to go.
- DariusKnight

Benns value to the stars is probably relative to that of ebs and the oilers.

Luongo aint near enough for him. It seems like you guys are again forgetting how dimished lus value is with the length of his contract.

Plus, they got kari lehtonen whos pretty damn good, and younger, with a better contract

That new rumour of nino maybe?
If u could get nino plus a depth player/salary dump back, that could be pretty good...

Eberle and hall are already signed long term. Schultz isnt on an elc.

Btw, chicago has 5 core star players signed long term and are still a contender every year
- hugefemale dog77

Yeah, I think Edmonton will be just fine as long as they can find the right role players.

Eberle and hall are already signed long term. Schultz isnt on an elc.

Btw, chicago has 5 core star players signed long term and are still a contender every year
- hugefemale dog77

They won the cup before those contracts kicked in, then they had to dismantle the team to get under the cap.

Benns value to the stars is probably relative to that of ebs and the oilers.
Luongo aint near enough for him. It seems like you guys are again forgetting how dimished lus value is with the length of his contract.

Plus, they got kari lehtonen whos pretty damn good, and younger, with a better contract

That new rumour of nino maybe?
If u could get nino plus a depth player/salary dump back, that could be pretty good...
- hugefemale dog77

No where near the same value, as long as he remains unsigned.

They won the cup before those contracts kicked in, then they had to dismantle the team to get under the cap.
- A_SteamingLombardi

This changes the point of my post in no way.