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WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
‏@MAGodin
Galchenyuk pratique au centre de Gallagher et Prust. Et Eller n'est pas sur un trio régulier.


Guess I'm not the only one who thought Eller REALLY sucked saturday night.

- Pecafan Fan

But he's the futureeeee...zzzzzzzzzz
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
Jack Adams agrees with you.
- mr.peanut



moving your lines around after one game is what Jack Adams was most known for.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
Jack Adams agrees with you.
- mr.peanut


Jack HIMSELF!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
moving your lines around after one game is what Jack Adams was most known for.
- dt99999


Nothing was working.

Leaving the lines as they were would have been pretty, well, dumb.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
Bruins on in a an hour+ against stormey's jets.
- BingoLady


(frank) Boston

too bad the Habs aren't playing
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
Bruins on in a an hour+ against stormey's jets.
- BingoLady


(frank) Boston

too bad the Habs aren't playing
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
Nothing was working.

Leaving the lines as they were would have been pretty, well, dumb.

- Pecafan Fan




Marty = Jack Adams
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
This whole thing has been blown out way out of proportion. There's not a single official word on what Subban's asking for.

I don't care if Dreger went on the morning show to say he's looking for Doughty money. There's been zero to confirm that.

He's not worth 6 per year, and he's not getting 6 per year. And everyone needs to stop saying Subban's the only one responsible for him not being on the roster right now. It's simply not true.

- EricEngels



Well, his agent has compared what he's worth to players making that kind of money.

Grapes said he wants 6, so did Dreger.

Of course he could be on the roster if he wanted to.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:35 AM ET
Well, his agent has compared what he's worth to players making that kind of money.

Grapes said he wants 6, so did Dreger.

Of course he could be on the roster if he wanted to.

- pete26

WTF Pete? Senile Don Cherry said it so it must be so?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
WTF Pete? Senile Don Cherry said it so it must be so?
- Pie


Word.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
The Ole song at the beginning of the montage? Only in Montreal can the word Ole become a French word. Listen to it in the song... it's pronounced O-Lait.

What??

yeah, like "O-LAY" is much better...
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jan 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
Honestly, coming out of a half season lockout, if I was him i'd sign a small deal until the end of the season and talk next summer.

He's just acting like a (frank)ing jerk at this point.

- Pecafan Fan


maybe that's option b from the subban camp, and maybe Bergevin doesn't want to go that short with him.

Way too many assumptions being made, and most of them off a "scoop" that clearly came from management's side of the equation. Subban shouldn't rush to do anything other than get the best deal he can get for himself, or one that he deserves.

Should he sign a "bridge deal"?

Price and Pacioretty signed there's after major struggles and signs of promise.

Gorges?

He started as a healthy scratch who could barely sniff the lineup.

Subban's been a #1 dman since his rookie year pretty much. Look at his comparables.

I said before John Carlsson signed that he's the closest one. SIX YEARS, 3.96/yr.

If Subban goes long or short, he shouldn't accept less than 4.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
The Ole song at the beginning of the montage? Only in Montreal can the word Ole become a French word. Listen to it in the song... it's pronounced O-Lait.

What??

yeah, like "O-LAY" is much better...

- stinger67

It's stupid in every language.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
Eric Engels: Habs start off well below the boiling point
- EricEngels

holy poop thats a long blog
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
maybe that's option b from the subban camp, and maybe Bergevin doesn't want to go that short with him.

Way too many assumptions being made, and most of them off a "scoop" that clearly came from management's side of the equation. Subban shouldn't rush to do anything other than get the best deal he can get for himself, or one that he deserves.

Should he sign a "bridge deal"?

Price and Pacioretty signed there's after major struggles and signs of promise.

Gorges?

He started as a healthy scratch who could barely sniff the lineup.

Subban's been a #1 dman since his rookie year pretty much. Look at his comparables.

I said before John Carlsson signed that he's the closest one. SIX YEARS, 3.96/yr.

If Subban goes long or short, he shouldn't accept less than 4.

- EricEngels


But, what if he REALLY does think he's the next Drew Doughty and he DOES want 6 million. What do you do?

Edit: I don't like the fact never praticed with his team mates during the lock out. I don't like the fact he didn't invite a single habs player to his charity game in TO. I don't like that he's not signed yet.

What I'm thinking is IF Subban is to stay in Montreal, he wants to be overpaid for it. Otherwise, he'll sign a short deal, or simply hold out.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
It's stupid in every language.
- mr.peanut


yes it is.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
maybe that's option b from the subban camp, and maybe Bergevin doesn't want to go that short with him.

Way too many assumptions being made, and most of them off a "scoop" that clearly came from management's side of the equation. Subban shouldn't rush to do anything other than get the best deal he can get for himself, or one that he deserves.

Should he sign a "bridge deal"?

Price and Pacioretty signed there's after major struggles and signs of promise.

Gorges?

He started as a healthy scratch who could barely sniff the lineup.

Subban's been a #1 dman since his rookie year pretty much. Look at his comparables.

I said before John Carlsson signed that he's the closest one. SIX YEARS, 3.96/yr.

If Subban goes long or short, he shouldn't accept less than 4.

- EricEngels

Look somebody is dropping the ball. Whether its the GM or the player/agent, somebody is (frank)ing this up. 6 year 4 mill fine.

edit also what BS is Jack Todd pedalling saying Therien hates Subban and that the Hab mgmt has disliked the kid from the start. Didn't we poop can all those bumholes because of garbage like this?
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
But, what if he REALLY does think he's the next Drew Doughty and he DOES want 6 million. What do you do?
- Pecafan Fan

you sit him until an offer comes along that blows your doors off.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
yes it is.
- stinger67



it really, really is.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
you sit him until an offer comes along that blows your doors off.
- Pie



if he really wants that much the offers may suck the doors in.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
if he really wants that much the offers may suck the doors in.
- dt99999

Somebody will give it to him somewhere.


edit Wanger
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Where is PK
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Where is PK
- Fredobbface


Somewhere in Toronto. Probably in a TV Studio somewhere.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
maybe that's option b from the subban camp, and maybe Bergevin doesn't want to go that short with him.

Way too many assumptions being made, and most of them off a "scoop" that clearly came from management's side of the equation. Subban shouldn't rush to do anything other than get the best deal he can get for himself, or one that he deserves.

Should he sign a "bridge deal"?

Price and Pacioretty signed there's after major struggles and signs of promise.

Gorges?

He started as a healthy scratch who could barely sniff the lineup.

Subban's been a #1 dman since his rookie year pretty much. Look at his comparables.

I said before John Carlsson signed that he's the closest one. SIX YEARS, 3.96/yr.

If Subban goes long or short, he shouldn't accept less than 4.

- EricEngels


So, your saying he's worth 4/per?

That's quite a lot for his numbers, no?

He hasn't done enough to warrant a long term deal just yet.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jan 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
let me ask you guys something:

If Subban was asking for five years at five M, is that unreasonable?
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