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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:01 PM ET
Sooo....

Campbell: 53pts, not offensively in the elite
Keith: 40pts, offensively elite

.... sounds about... right

Edit: Actually, it sounds about right IF you are a habs homer that pretends that Subban is an Elite defensemen with his 36 points
Ultimate Cyberhabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Marty does not assume, he just
Joined: 03.21.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
Happy birthday buddy!
- Tee-Dot


Thanks. I get to go dress shopping now. I am going to say with my daughter but no one will believe me.
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
its the same thing every goddamn night shift


Brady


BELICHICK


Bruins


how the hell does that even qualify as talk, honestly man i just dont get it

- Crimsoninja

Nice to see that you are making friends in here Ray...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
In Toronto.


Players that were the opposite, that were elite offensively but average (to below average) first pairing blueliners defensively were Alex Pietrangelo, Duncan Keith, Dennis Wideman, Matthew Carle, and Dustin Byfuglien.

Duncan Keith had 40 points.

- Pecafan Fan

Subban deserves 7 mil a year
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
Shea Weber 27 $7,857,143
Brian Campbell 33 $7,142,875
Drew Doughty 23 $7,000,000
Zdeno Chara 35 $6,916,667
Dan Boyle 36 $6,666,667
Erik Karlsson 22 $6,500,000
Kimmo Timonen 37 $6,333,333
Brent Seabrook 27 $5,800,000
Duncan Keith 29 $5,538,462
Matt Carle 28 $5,500,000
Dennis Wideman 29 $5,250,000
Dustin Byfuglien 27 $5,200,000
Kevin Bieksa 31 $4,600,000
Dan Hamhuis 30 $4,500,000
Alexander Edler 26 $3,250,000 (UFA 2013)
Alex Pietrangelo 22 $3,166,666 (RFA 2013)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic 25 $3,100,000 ($4,250,000 in 13/14)
Ryan McDonagh 23 $1,300,000 (RFA 2013)
P.K. Subban 23 RFA

Where is Dion Phaneuf.

- AdamFrench


Elite
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
I reported this post on purpose.

You're welcome Peanut.

- Ultimate Cyberhabs


I miss being banned.

Thank you.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jan 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
Sooo....

Campbell: 53pts, not offensively in the elite
Keith: 40pts, offensively elite

.... sounds about... right

Edit: Actually, it sounds about right IF you are a habs homer that pretends that Subban is an Elite defensemen with his 36 points

- Pecafan Fan

Must you gripe about everything?
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:04 PM ET
In this manner, I had Subban in a group of five players who weren't quite elite offensively but were defensively, along with Dan Hamhuis, Drew Doughty, Brian Campbell, and Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

Brian Campbell had 53 points last season. Subban had 36.

Not sure he chose the best example.

- Pecafan Fan




"experts"

Just like the experts at RDS ( that made me believe Prust was a center ... )
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:04 PM ET
Subban deserves 7 mil a year
- AdamFrench


Here's my favorite part:

His 2 even strength goals was particularly shocking. From the stat line here, you'd guess he played it pretty safe offensively, taking very few risks, or maybe was covering up for a more offensively dynamic defensive partner. His main defensive partner was Josh Gorges, so I think we all know that wasn't the case. The numbers didn't match the talent here for whatever reason.


Well, that screams (frank)ING ELITE TO ME!!!!!!!
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
Must you gripe about everything?
- Tee-Dot

Yeah, why take your thunder, how was grocery shopping?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
In Conclusion: Subban is elite, it's just that "the numbers don't match the talent for whatever reason"



sounds like a (frank)ing good sales pitch for his agent!
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 10.12.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
Here's my favorite part:

His 2 even strength goals was particularly shocking. From the stat line here, you'd guess he played it pretty safe offensively, taking very few risks, or maybe was covering up for a more offensively dynamic defensive partner. His main defensive partner was Josh Gorges, so I think we all know that wasn't the case. The numbers didn't match the talent here for whatever reason.


Well, that screams (frank)ING ELITE TO ME!!!!!!!

- Pecafan Fan


Let's pay him 6M per for whatever reason!!!!!!
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:06 PM ET
Must you gripe about everything?
- Tee-Dot

Yes.

He keeps us in check.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 21 @ 6:06 PM ET
Elite
- Dgrdnr

Vlasic sucks
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
Let's pay him 6M per for whatever reason!!!!!!
- Dgrdnr

lol
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 21 @ 6:08 PM ET
Here's my favorite part:

His 2 even strength goals was particularly shocking. From the stat line here, you'd guess he played it pretty safe offensively, taking very few risks, or maybe was covering up for a more offensively dynamic defensive partner. His main defensive partner was Josh Gorges, so I think we all know that wasn't the case. The numbers didn't match the talent here for whatever reason.


Well, that screams (frank)ING ELITE TO ME!!!!!!!

- Pecafan Fan

I believe we can all agree that he is not going to be worth the money he will be getting paid, if he was getting Karlsson numbers i could see him maybe be worth 6m however he is not, and has not, and likely will not....
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 21 @ 6:08 PM ET
Yeah, why take your thunder, how was grocery shopping?
- ShootingSemin

It's the shame old bullpoop everyday. Oh, and I love the new "TRADE SUBBAN" shtick every 2nd page.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:09 PM ET
I believe we can all agree that he is not going to be worth the money he will be getting paid, if he was getting Karlsson numbers i could see him maybe be worth 6m however he is not, and has not, and likely will not....
- ShootingSemin


Subban is very good. There is no doubt. But holy (frank) this whole "Subban is Elite" non-sense is just pure homerism.
ShootingSemin
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Jan 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
In Conclusion: Subban is elite, it's just that "the numbers don't match the talent for whatever reason"



sounds like a (frank)ing good sales pitch for his agent!

- Pecafan Fan

MB should say to him simply " (frank) your potential, show me some numbers before you get your big payday"...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:11 PM ET
MB should say to him simply " (frank) your potential, show me some numbers before you get your big payday"...
- ShootingSemin


And one day, HE WILL put up the numbers.

Sign him to a 1 year deal (like Gorges) and see how it plays out.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jan 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
And one day, HE WILL put up the numbers.

Sign him to a 1 year deal (like Gorges) and see how it plays out.

- Pecafan Fan

Or not
ShootingSemin
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Joined: 06.22.2010

Jan 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
Subban is very good. There is no doubt. But holy (frank) this whole "Subban is Elite" non-sense is just pure homerism.
- Pecafan Fan

Yeah it is, completely. In fact he hasn't even put up Kaberle numbers yet, back of the bus for you boy, til you get your points on...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
(frank)ing










ELITE!!!!!!
mr.peanut
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Jan 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
Thank you Luc


Hi Pete
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
Or not
- AdamFrench


Or not... ELITE!
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