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MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
I give Stafford a lot of credit. Hartnell is not a push over. It was a serious mismatch for Stafford, that's for sure. But he held his own and earned a little bit more respect from me.
- HonkFortheGoose


Agreed. I think Stafford took a few shots to the back of his head/ear area. Stafford did a good job in raising his shoulder to block punches too. I think I saw Staff land one or two on or close to his head before the wrestling started.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
I want to get a Foligno jersey so bad but I am worried that the second I do he will change his number to 17 or 71.
- MillerTime3011


I'm pretty sure he's said he's not changing it. He said the number has nothing to do with anything and isn't important. It was last year after Grags had been traded I believe.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
I want to get a Foligno jersey so bad but I am worried that the second I do he will change his number to 17 or 71.
- MillerTime3011


He is keeping 82
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
Hell yea.. Great leadership by him...

i think guys like Vanek, Pommer and Stafford are finally beginning to realize that this is there team and its time to act like it..

- BuffaloKyle


I'm wondering if Staff and Vanek are going to have A's every night, or if it's rotating again.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
I want to get a Foligno jersey so bad but I am worried that the second I do he will change his number to 17 or 71.
- MillerTime3011


Im sure youre safe.. im sure he wont change it..
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
I'm pretty sure he's said he's not changing it. He said the number has nothing to do with anything and isn't important. It was last year after Grags had been traded I believe.
- HonkFortheGoose


I saw him mention in an interview this year that he wasn't changing it either but it still makes me nervous...

hard to put down $330 on a jersey that you hope stays true...

Those Premier jerseys for $140 aren't anything special are they?? screen printed name on back and numbers on sleeves but embroidered numbers and logo on front and back??
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
Well, having him certainly didn't stop Hartnell from boarding Pominville, Ennis and going in toward Miller full speed ahead.
- HonkFortheGoose

Agreed, if Lindy is not going to use him to send a message to Hartnell after those hits then just cut the guy.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:16 AM ET
I'm wondering if Staff and Vanek are going to have A's every night, or if it's rotating again.
- HonkFortheGoose


Who would they have to rotate with.. im sure its set in stone now... Pommers is the cap. and Staff and Vanek are the a's
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
Myers, Ott, and Kaleta all had 2 turnovers.. nobody else had more than 1 that is listed in stats.
- MillerTime3011

key is... thats listed on the stats
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
I saw him mention in an interview this year that he wasn't changing it either but it still makes me nervous...

hard to put down $330 on a jersey that you hope stays true...

Those Premier jerseys for $140 aren't anything special are they?? screen printed name on back and numbers on sleeves but embroidered numbers and logo on front and back??

- MillerTime3011


Most of the jerseys I have were in the $140 price range and they look just like the ones the players wear. They're missing the tie strap, but everything is embroidered.

I don't know if they're one of the "premier" jerseys. I got a few of them from Laux Sporting goods here in Buffalo, one from Dave and Adam's Card World, and one from the Sabres store.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Who would they have to rotate with.. im sure its set in stone now... Pommers is the cap. and Staff and Vanek are the a's
- BuffaloKyle


It would make sense to me to leave it the way it is now, but this is Lindy Ruff we're talking about. Anything is possible.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
It would make sense to me to leave it the way it is now, but this is Lindy Ruff we're talking about. Anything is possible.
- HonkFortheGoose


True dat.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
key is... thats listed on the stats
- SabresFaninIndiana


Not trying to be a jerk here.. .but....

I think the NHL statisticians are more inclined and intelligent then you are to determine these things... They have their job for a reason.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
It would make sense to me to leave it the way it is now, but this is Lindy Ruff we're talking about. Anything is possible.
- HonkFortheGoose


he did have Hecht on the first line for a shift or two... I think I saw Myers with about 3 different partners yesterday...

I think I even saw Grigo out there with Ellis at one point.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
Not trying to be a jerk here.. .but....

I think the NHL statisticians are more inclined and intelligent then you are to determine these things... They have their job for a reason.

- MillerTime3011

not trying to be a jerk.. but i am.

the stats cover plays that he caused a clear turn over. there were several times he had a terrible pass that went no where or missed the target. not considered a turn over but it really was.. i know 15 was an overstatement but he had several bad plays that resulted in the sabres losing possesion of the puck.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
he did have Hecht on the first line for a shift or two... I think I saw Myers with about 3 different partners yesterday...

I think I even saw Grigo out there with Ellis at one point.

- MillerTime3011


Penalties caused most of that stuff to happen. Ruff can't not play Myers because Regehr is in the box. And after the PP or PK, the lines always get shuffled a bit because those units are a mix of guys from all different lines usually.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
not trying to be a jerk.. but i am.

the stats cover plays that he caused a clear turn over. there were several times he had a terrible pass that went no where or missed the target. not considered a turn over but it really was.. i know 15 was an overstatement but he had several bad plays that resulted in the sabres losing possesion of the puck.

- SabresFaninIndiana


Every time that the Sabres lose possession of the puck a "turnover" does not need to be applied to a person. That is all I am saying..
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
not trying to be a jerk.. but i am.

the stats cover plays that he caused a clear turn over. there were several times he had a terrible pass that went no where or missed the target. not considered a turn over but it really was.. i know 15 was an overstatement but he had several bad plays that resulted in the sabres losing possesion of the puck.

- SabresFaninIndiana


I agree.

The passing in general was not good. For either team. I'm sure it's partly because of rust, but for the Sabres at least, it always seems to be a problem. Sometimes it looks like they're just throwing it at each other instead of trying to actually pass it.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Myers wasn't very impressive yesterday... Hopefully that changes.. if not the should consider trading him and playing Brennan everyday... Just a thought
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
not trying to be a jerk.. but i am.

the stats cover plays that he caused a clear turn over. there were several times he had a terrible pass that went no where or missed the target. not considered a turn over but it really was.. i know 15 was an overstatement but he had several bad plays that resulted in the sabres losing possesion of the puck.

- SabresFaninIndiana

Turnovers are subjective too. When a puck is turned over it's either a giveaway or takeaway. It can't be both and its up to the statistician. It might not be called either way.
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jan 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
After that, he was a mess. He redeemed himself a bit by scoring that goal, but he needs to clean up his game and just think about things. It's like he was on autopilot or something yesterday.
- HonkFortheGoose


I think you've got it flipped.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
new blog
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Myers wasn't very impressive yesterday... Hopefully that changes.. if not the should consider trading him and playing Brennan everyday... Just a thought
- BuffaloKyle


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sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
Mike Kostka made the Maple Leafs....

Anyone remember him?? He was a Sabres prospect with Portland. I think he was solid and possibly blew his knee out. He is 27 now and made the Leafs. Good story for a former Sabres draft pick.

- Morskdog89


He went undrafted and the Sabres signed him as a F/A.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
Every time that the Sabres lose possession of the puck a "turnover" does not need to be applied to a person. That is all I am saying..
- MillerTime3011

i know that and this was my point.. there were several plays that buffalo lost the puck because of something he did.. but it wasn't registered as a turnover.
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