This data is incredibly outdated. Drafting is much better now, 1st round prospects are much better. very few 1st rounders become complete busts.

2000 NHL draft. 14 players have played 500 games, and a few more are in their mid 400s and still playing.

2001 - 11 have played 500, SEVERAL more in their 400s and still playing.

2002 - 20 players have played more than 340 games - all still playing (not a great draft).

2003 - 15 players over 500 games - nuts.

2004 - 13 players of 300 games (Malkin has 428)
- Big_Lightnin

Watch out, he might throw the monkey insults at you for pointing out how stupid he is.

Only 3% of drafted players make the NHL

Nope you clearly have been doing a better job of that.. but do continue...
- DoctorNHL

40 is the new 20

And miss out on watching it all unfold?

Never.
- Two_For_Truth

Why?

You know the team isn't going to be competitive. You oppose every single move they make. And you refuse to support them financially in any way. Your only connection to them is that you come on here and female dog about them every day while making yourself look like a giant jag-off.

So why follow them if you know their fate for the next 5 years? Why not go do something productive with your time? Have you ever estimated how much of your time has been spent on the Leafs, directly and indirectly?

If you had invested that time into productive pursuits, you'd probably be living on the main floor of your parents' house by now!

Those were the first numbers I found.. but it does differ from year to year & crops.. also development has taken hirer precedence of late.. still below 20% overall...
- DoctorNHL

Overall doesn't matter though cause it's a progressive stat.

from 2000 to 2004 it's approaching 50%. And arguably it will keep trending higher.

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

You're right, I see where you got 3% from that.
- systemtool

If you read the article career players are guys with 200 games.. I WAS TALKING ABOUT 500+ games as we are talking top line guys... you wanted the Leafs to trade Lupul for draft picks.. he is Top Line.. that was the comparison or have your forgot your argument...

Why?

You know the team isn't going to be competitive. You oppose every single move they make. And you refuse to support them financially in any way. Your only connection to them is that you come on here and female dog about them every day while making yourself look like a giant jag-off.

So why follow them if you know their fate for the next 5 years? Why not go do something productive with your time? Have you ever estimated how much of your time has been spent on the Leafs, directly and indirectly?

If you had invested that time into productive pursuits, you'd probably be living on the main floor of your parents' house by now!
- Leeman4Gilmour

Quoted for the mutha phuqin truth!

Overall doesn't matter though cause it's a progressive stat.

from 2000 to 2004 it's approaching 50%. And arguably it will keep trending higher.
- Big_Lightnin

Hoe many of the guys you are talking about have 500+ games?

LOL - listen, when you haven't made the playoffs in 8 years....the thought of being able to make the playoffs and winning a series or 2 within a couple years is not too bad. Being that they are the 2nd youngest team, you'd have to think if that can happen then things will only get better from there.

Gotta have some hope or what's the point in watching at all - may as well pick a new team to follow.
- Cooshie

And suppose they make the playoffs for 8 years and do jack all during the playoffs or only win a few series. Worth it?

If you want hope, put hope in a team rebuilding properly and giving the fans a reason to believe they can contend, not pretend.

Hoe many of the guys you are talking about have 500+ games?
- DoctorNHL

Monkey monkey monkey. 3% of players drafted play in the NHL.

If you read the article career players are guys with 200 games.. I WAS TALKING ABOUT 500+ games as we are talking top line guys... you wanted the Leafs to trade Lupul for draft picks.. he is Top Line.. that was the comparison or have your forgot your argument...
- DoctorNHL

Fail.

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

Hoe many of the guys you are talking about have 500+ games?
- DoctorNHL

I posted it above.

50% from 2000 draft already have 500 games, and a few more have over 400 and are still playing.

same goes for everything since.

average will be easily 50% play over 500 games.

Hell 2008 draft already has 13 players with 2 full seasons played. Normal developement after draft would be 1 yr jr, 1 AHL, then start NHL career, and play ever game, to get 2 full seasons since 2008.

will easily be over 50% again once careers are over.

And suppose they make the playoffs for 8 years and do jack all during the playoffs or only win a few series. Worth it?

If you want hope, put hope in a team rebuilding properly and giving the fans a reason to believe they can contend, not pretend.
- Two_For_Truth

It would be hilarious if you were also a Cubs fan...

- prock

Seems like you can read but can't use a calculator.. how many teams again in the 90's 20.. try 28 by the end of the 90's with 23 to start the 90's & 30 by 2000.

Why?

You know the team isn't going to be competitive. You oppose every single move they make. And you refuse to support them financially in any way. Your only connection to them is that you come on here and female dog about them every day while making yourself look like a giant jag-off.

So why follow them if you know their fate for the next 5 years? Why not go do something productive with your time? Have you ever estimated how much of your time has been spent on the Leafs, directly and indirectly?
- Leeman4Gilmour

They could always get lucky. They're due.

If you had invested that time into productive pursuits, you'd probably be living on the main floor of your parents' house by now!

Aw, that's cute. Another craving for insults. What's the matter? Not enough substance to your argument? Just needed the confidence boost?

And suppose they make the playoffs for 8 years and do jack all during the playoffs or only win a few series. Worth it?

If you want hope, put hope in a team rebuilding properly and giving the fans a reason to believe they can contend, not pretend.
- Two_For_Truth

Leafs are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL, have some nice prospects in their system and are in better shape then they have been in the last 5yrs. I think that there is a lot of room for Leaf fans to be optimistic in this team.
No need to strip this team down right now, just need to add the "right" pieces. Would be different if they were a team full of veterans - not the case with the current team.

The first part of your rant is just nonsense not worth responding too.

Fail.

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).
- systemtool

Fail trading top line players for draft picks unless you are Boston is foolish... you are what you say.. and I don't count 200 games a success or the top line of anything.. Tie Domi played 1020 games.. a lot of 3 line guys got to 500 games

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).
- systemtool

these 90s stats have been floating around a lot on here, let's remember these stats are between 12 and 22 years old, draftng has got a lot better since then! also a lot of talk about toronto sucking at the draft, but looking at their actual picks i don't agree, their problem is having picks on draft day.

take all the kadri is a bust talk, you have to go all the way to the second round,
and Ryan O'Reilly to find someone who is clearly better at this point, some players like Marcus Johansson, Nick Leddy maybe, but it's not like we picked the one guy who didn't pan out! Steen, Rask, and Colaiacovo are having solid careers, which just didn't give them a chance here. and we had some late round steals, Carl Gunnarsson in the 7th round, Ian White 6th round, Viktor Stalberg 6th round and now Leo Komarov 6ht round
we have some late round guys with potential in the minors now, but who knows with long shots

Fail.

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).
- systemtool

Even by your career guys of 200 games.. which is a pretty low number to evaluate... that makes 6%

these 90s stats have been floating around a lot on here, let's remember these stats are between 12 and 22 years old, draftng has got a lot better since then! also a lot of talk about toronto sucking at the draft, but looking at their actual picks i don't agree, their problem is having picks on draft day.

take all the kadri is a bust talk, you have to go all the way to the second round,
and Ryan O'Reilly to find someone who is clearly better at this point, some players like Marcus Johansson, Nick Leddy maybe, but it's not like we picked the one guy who didn't pan out! Steen, Rask, and Colaiacovo are having solid careers, which just didn't give them a chance here. and we had some late round steals, Carl Gunnarsson in the 7th round, Ian White 6th round, Viktor Stalberg 6th round and now Leo Komarov 6ht round
we have some late round guys with potential in the minors now, but who knows with long shots
- ky678468

50% from 2000 draft already have 50 games, and a few more have over 400 and are still playing.

same goes for everything since.

average will be easily 50% play over 500 games.

Hell 2008 draft already has 13 players with 2 full seasons played. Normal developement after draft would be 1 yr jr, 1 AHL, then start NHL career, and play ever game, to get 2 full seasons since 2008. -big lightening


Happy now?

Even by your career guys of 200 games.. which is a pretty low number to evaluate... that makes 6%
- DoctorNHL

Cry and whine all you want. Big lightning just shoved it down your throat. Please choke a little less vocally please.

3% and 6%. Dumbass.

50% from 2000 draft already have 50 games, and a few more have over 400 and are still playing.

same goes for everything since.

average will be easily 50% play over 500 games.

Hell 2008 draft already has 13 players with 2 full seasons played. Normal developement after draft would be 1 yr jr, 1 AHL, then start NHL career, and play ever game, to get 2 full seasons since 2008.

Leafs are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL, have some nice prospects in their system and are in better shape then they have been in the last 5yrs. I think that there is a lot of room for Leaf fans to be optimistic in this team.
No need to strip this team down right now, just need to add the "right" pieces. Would be different if they were a team full of veterans - not the case with the current team.

The first part of your rant is just nonsense not worth responding too.
- Cooshie

Being young doesn't mean jack all unless they have talent to go with it. Unfortunately, they don't have the type of talent filled building blocks you need to win a Cup.

Nonsense is having faith in this team to be truly competitive in the future without some type of miracle.

50% from 2000 draft already have 50 games, and a few more have over 400 and are still playing.

same goes for everything since.

average will be easily 50% play over 500 games.

Hell 2008 draft already has 13 players with 2 full seasons played. Normal developement after draft would be 1 yr jr, 1 AHL, then start NHL career, and play ever game, to get 2 full seasons since 2008. -big lightening


Happy now?
- systemtool

50 Games.. wow.. that is like Reimer & Scrivens put together.. impressive ... you set your sites pretty low...

50 Games.. wow.. that is like Reimer & Scrivens put together.. impressive ... you set your sites pretty low...
- DoctorNHL

50% from 2000 draft already have 50 games, and a few more have over 400 and are still playing.

same goes for everything since.

average will be easily 50% play over 500 games.

Hell 2008 draft already has 13 players with 2 full seasons played. Normal developement after draft would be 1 yr jr, 1 AHL, then start NHL career, and play ever game, to get 2 full seasons since 2008.


It hurts you so much im just going to keep reposting until it washes the idiot off you.

50 Games.. wow.. that is like Reimer & Scrivens put together.. impressive ... you set your sites pretty low...
- DoctorNHL

typo ass package.

50% have over 500 games.