Take another sip, son.
- OBGYN Kenobi

You keep dreaming that dream.

Make sure you get the last word too since you so desperately need it.

poopty ass Cogeco
though I haven't looked. Could be. upstairs in the TV-less room ATM so have to check later.

piss me off cause I couldn't wathc Pens=Flyers yesterday. thought NBC would have it, but only in US
- Big_Lightnin

I watched flyers pens the other day on NBC

don't need to. In two seconds I know those numbers aren't right. for starters, 10 years of first round picks, even with only 20 teams, which there was about that in the early 90s, would be more than 160 picks.
- prock

His numbers were way off. Like pulled out of his ass off.

don't need to. In two seconds I know those numbers aren't right. for starters, 10 years of first round picks, even with only 20 teams, which there was about that in the early 90s, would be more than 160 picks.
- prock

Read again because these are the expansion teams and the years they came in.. maybe your calculator is American and doesn't convert well to facts:

1992: --$45m ---'Ottawa Senators
1992: --$45m --- Tampa Bay Lightning
1993: --$50m --- Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (includes $25m to LAK)
1993: --$50m --- Florida Panthers
1998: --$80m '-- Nashville Predators
1999: --$80m --'' Atlanta Thrashers
2000: --$80m --' Columbus Blue Jackets
2000: --$80m --' Minnesota Wild

Here's an idea since you have determined that the Leafs won't be competitive for the next five years: just sit them out.

Go away for five years, free up thousands of hours, and come back when Lupul is gone. Maybe you can re-assess the next five years at that point and determine whether they will be worth your time.
- Leeman4Gilmour

And miss out on watching it all unfold?

Never.

Read again because these are the expansion teams and the years they came in.. maybe your calculator is American and doesn't convert well to facts:

1992: --$45m ---'Ottawa Senators
1992: --$45m --- Tampa Bay Lightning
1993: --$50m --- Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (includes $25m to LAK)
1993: --$50m --- Florida Panthers
1998: --$80m '-- Nashville Predators
1999: --$80m --'' Atlanta Thrashers
2000: --$80m --' Columbus Blue Jackets
2000: --$80m --' Minnesota Wild
- DoctorNHL

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

His numbers were way off. Like pulled out of his ass off.
- systemtool

Pulled from a very well known site called about.com

http://proicehockey.about...pects/f/draft_success.htm


Any numbers for me fart breath... conjecture is really good has a way of leading to a conclusion.

You keep dreaming that dream.

Make sure you get the last word too since you so desperately need it.
- Two_For_Truth

You've tipped your hand and completely let us in to your psyche now.

This is nothing we all haven't known for years about you. Putting it right out there on front street though is a different move for you.

I await your next response. HA!

And by very competitive you mean what exactly?
- Two_For_Truth

Making the playoffs and being good enough to actually win a series (or 2)....

Read again because these are the expansion teams and the years they came in.. maybe your calculator is American and doesn't convert well to facts:

1992: --$45m ---'Ottawa Senators
1992: --$45m --- Tampa Bay Lightning
1993: --$50m --- Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (includes $25m to LAK)
1993: --$50m --- Florida Panthers
1998: --$80m '-- Nashville Predators
1999: --$80m --'' Atlanta Thrashers
2000: --$80m --' Columbus Blue Jackets
2000: --$80m --' Minnesota Wild
- DoctorNHL

yes, more teams makes you even more wrong.

Pulled from a very well known site called about.com

http://proicehockey.about...pects/f/draft_success.htm


Any numbers for me fart breath... conjecture is really good has a way of leading to a conclusion.
- DoctorNHL

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

yes, more teams makes you even more wrong.
- prock

Hes going to parade his idiocy around like its pride day.

This is fun.

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).
- systemtool

Wow it seems like you can google what I posted.. they trained monkeys how to sign in the 60's.. clearly your result are not as impressive..

Making the playoffs and being good enough to actually win a series (or 2)....
- Cooshie

And that's good enough?

Between 1990 and 1999, there were 2,600 names called at the NHL Entry Draft.

160 were selected in the first round.
Of those 160 career players, over 81 have played more than 500 NHL games.

The total means that only 3% of first rounders play 500 games.. over a decade...

The results also vary year to year... 12% of the players beyond the first round have 500+ games..
- DoctorNHL

This data is incredibly outdated. Drafting is much better now, 1st round prospects are much better. very few 1st rounders become complete busts.

2000 NHL draft. 14 players have played 500 games, and a few more are in their mid 400s and still playing.

2001 - 11 have played 500, SEVERAL more in their 400s and still playing.

2002 - 20 players have played more than 340 games - all still playing (not a great draft).

2003 - 15 players over 500 games - nuts.

2004 - 13 players of 300 games (Malkin has 428)

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).
- systemtool

still works out to 3% playing 500+ games..

I didn't realise that you were in Edmonton? The excitement about the team is almost palpable to the point or threatening to choke me on it...

On the other hand, I'd rather the oilers have success than those effing Canucks
- lumlums

Oh, God, you're right about that. It's as if the entire sports media in this city has decided to just wait around until the Stanley Cup inevitably falls into their hands.

But, yeah, I'll take them in a game over the Canucks any day.

Wow it seems like you can google what I posted.. they trained monkeys how to sign in the 60's.. clearly your result are not as impressive..
- DoctorNHL

I guess I made you feel so upset you had to go the "monkey" route. Yes, you got called out for the bullpoop you posted and you hate me now. Hate me harder big guy.

Wow it seems like you can google what I posted.. they trained monkeys how to sign in the 60's.. clearly your result are not as impressive..
- DoctorNHL

Re-read what you first posted please. youre making an a$$ of yourself.

This data is incredibly outdated. Drafting is much better now, 1st round prospects are much better. very few 1st rounders become complete busts.

2000 NHL draft. 14 players have played 500 games, and a few more are in their mid 400s and still playing.

2001 - 11 have played 500, SEVERAL more in their 400s and still playing.

2002 - 20 players have played more than 340 games - all still playing (not a great draft).

2003 - 15 players over 500 games - nuts.

2004 - 13 players of 300 games (Malkin has 428)
- Big_Lightnin

Those were the first numbers I found.. but it does differ from year to year & crops.. also development has taken hirer precedence of late.. still below 20% overall...

still works out to 3% playing 500+ games..
- DoctorNHL

Success rate of first-round draft picks


•Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
•Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
•Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
•Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.
Results can vary widely from year to year:

•The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
•In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

You're right, I see where you got 3% from that.

I watched flyers pens the other day on NBC
- burn

was not on NBC here. that I know for sure. Infomertials,

Re-read what you first posted please. youre making an a$$ of yourself.
- prock

Nope you clearly have been doing a better job of that.. but do continue...

And that's good enough?
- Two_For_Truth

LOL - listen, when you haven't made the playoffs in 8 years....the thought of being able to make the playoffs and winning a series or 2 within a couple years is not too bad. Being that they are the 2nd youngest team, you'd have to think if that can happen then things will only get better from there.

Gotta have some hope or what's the point in watching at all - may as well pick a new team to follow.

still works out to 3% playing 500+ games..
- DoctorNHL

of first round picks? no, it doesn't. that's 2600 picks in total, not first round picks.