They can still be traded. This signing changes nothing. Other then it locks up a player for 5 years at a decent salary.
- Leafland

Do you honestly see them signing these guys long term, with NTC (limited or not, it's still a NTC in some form) and then trading them?

If they can, this changes everything for me.

I thought it was just money they could trade.
- systemtool

Like I said I have no idea if that's correct or not but it would make a lot easier for teams to get under the cap for next year

So, tell me.

Why did we just lock up a guy approaching his 30s with injury concerns? Because contending teams make deals like that, not teams who should be focusing on the future.

Again, I love Lupul. But it should have been a 2-3 year deal tops or trade him.
- systemtool

because it's a business, and the suites mandate is to make the playoffs and generate extra revenue

If Lupul stays healthy and goes off for another pt per game this season, how will you feel about this signing?

I think if Kessel and Lupul can get a true 1C locked up for similar duration, this will be a very good signing (still need to lock up Kessel long term too).
- Cooshie

The same way I feel now. Worried about the next 5 years.

For just one year? or the whole contract?
- systemtool

Not sure, but I imagine if you could do it for one you could do it for multiple.

I edited my post earlier so idk if you saw this, but the Leafs have a 500k cap hit for lombo, so I know it's at least for one year.

Tell me if I'm wrong but can't u trade cap space now in the new cba so what if the leafs got Lu and had Vancouver take half the cap hit ? Just an idea
- arnpriorguy

Solid idea. Though if they want Kadri, Bozak and a first with that albatross of a contract, then they'll be asking for Gardiner and Rielly too if they keep half of the cap

because it's a business, and the suites mandate is to make the playoffs and generate extra revenue
- bobbyisno1

Oh hi Gillis. Sure, we'll take Luongo. Playoffs it is.

Not sure, but I imagine if you could do it for one you could do it for multiple.
- celata29

That's makes pretty much any ugly contract out there trade able if it can be applied to multiple years

Like I said I have no idea if that's correct or not but it would make a lot easier for teams to get under the cap for next year
- arnpriorguy

Im not worried about getting under the cap next year. Im worried about setting up our Cap to be in the best shape it can be for the future.

Not sure, but I imagine if you could do it for one you could do it for multiple.

I edited my post earlier so idk if you saw this, but the Leafs have a 500k cap hit for lombo, so I know it's at least for one year.
- celata29

it's one year because his contract expires after this year

Oh hi Gillis. Sure, we'll take Luongo. Playoffs it is.
- systemtool

i said make extra money, not waste it

because it's a business, and the suites mandate is to make the playoffs and generate extra revenue
- bobbyisno1

That was the mandate four years ago when Burke took over. It was also the mandate eight years ago under JFJ. And where are we now? Eight years wasted that could have been used to rebuild from day one.

How about we stop making the same mistakes over and over again? How about instead of worrying about just barely making the playoffs, we rebuild so that we can win the division? How about rebuilding so that this team can actually contend instead of pretend?

i said make extra money, not waste it
- bobbyisno1

You also said playoffs.

You are missing something. By keeping guys like Lupul and Bozak instead of trading them, the Leafs are missing out on two key opportunities. The first is to acquire more picks and prospects by trading them. The second is to finish lower in the standings and getting higher picks.
- Two_For_Truth

The goal of NHL hockey believe it or not is not to draft players but to win the cup.

You can't just keep trading off every good asset because those are the players you hope to draft anyways

it's one year because his contract expires after this year
- bobbyisno1

I know that. That's why I said I only know it last for one year, not sure about multiple exactly because his contract was only one year.

That was the mandate four years ago when Burke took over. It was also the mandate eight years ago under JFJ. And where are we now? Eight years wasted that could have been used to rebuild from day one.

How about we stop making the same mistakes over and over again? How about instead of worrying about just barely making the playoffs, we rebuild so that we can win the division? How about rebuilding so that this team can actually contend instead of pretend?
- Two_For_Truth

how about you apply for the GM's job and show them how it's done.
everybody know Leafs management can't crack an egg to make an omelette

I've earned it.

Seriously though, you guys all like the Lupul signing? Nobody thinks it was an overpayment?!
- woopstash

go around the league for comparables with his point totals. No, it isn't overpayment. It's $1M more than he was making, and he just had a career year. If he want UFA in the summer (after presumably getting 40 pts or more this shortened season?) he gets $6M easy.

The goal of NHL hockey believe it or not is not to draft players but to win the cup.

You can't just keep trading off every good asset because those are the players you hope to draft anyways
- twiztedmike

The road to winning the cup usually starts by drafting the players needed to win that cup. Unless you're telling me that there are other ways to get guys like Malkin, Doughty, Toews, Getzlaf, Staal etc etc at the young ages the led their teams to a cup without drafting them.

Draft your good assets, then build a cup winner. Dont try to build a cup winner when you dont have the building blocks.

The goal could be chicken soup. But you actually need chicken to make it, not chicken turds.

You're right, we shouldnt be trading our chances at getting a Seguin when what we really need are young players of that calibre.

The goal of NHL hockey believe it or not is not to draft players but to win the cup.

You can't just keep trading off every good asset because those are the players you hope to draft anyways
- twiztedmike

Good luck winning the Cup if you can't draft the right players.

The goal of NHL hockey believe it or not is not to draft players but to win the cup.

You can't just keep trading off every good asset because those are the players you hope to draft anyways
- twiztedmike

wait, you mean Edmonton isn't the best team in the League, 4 years running?

queue "drafting high is how you win cups" followed by all the examples of teams that didn't draft high to win.

You also said playoffs.
- systemtool

Scrivens has excelled in every league, let him run with it for 7 or 8 games. then decide. but Nonis isn't giving up anything substantial for that Luongo contract

Good luck winning the Cup if you can't draft the right players.
- Two_For_Truth

boom

how about you apply for the GM's job and show them how it's done.
everybody know Leafs management can't crack an egg to make an omelette
- bobbyisno1

How about the Leafs do what works instead of screwing around searching for 8th place for another 8 years?

The road to winning the cup usually starts by drafting the players needed to win that cup. Unless you're telling me that there are other ways to get guys like Malkin, Doughty, Toews, Getzlaf, Staal etc etc at the young ages the led their teams to a cup without drafting them.

Draft your good assets, then build a cup winner. Dont try to build a cup winner when you dont have the building blocks.

The goal could be chicken soup. But you actually need chicken to make it, not chicken turds.

You're right, we shouldnt be trading our chances at getting a Seguin when what we really need are young players of that calibre.
- systemtool

You aren't going to get a pick thats going to be 1st overall or 2nd overall for Lupul

The same way I feel now. Worried about the next 5 years.
- systemtool

I hear you....health really is the only concern on this signing but I think it was a risk worth taking. Lupul is highly talented and would have gotten more on the open market. Compared to so many suspect salaries out there within 500K of this Lupul's 5.2mill, I am pretty happy with it.