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al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:44 PM ET
Good signing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
Not that I have anything against Chi Fla or Flyers, but I hope they all get their asses kicked today and realize they need a goalie.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
Brad Ziemer‏@BradZiemer

With Edler signing, #Canucks now have 12 players signed for next year with cap hit of $4 million or more. No other NHL team has more than 7


What he fails to mention is, most of ours are around the 4.6 to 5 mark, only 3 higher than 5 m. Other teams spend 6 and 7 + eat up most of their cap.

Backstom and OVies cap hit equals our top 4 Dmen.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
Vet solid signing by Gillis. The Canucks will have one of the best top 4 defense groups in the league for the next few years. Garrison - Edler and Bieksa - Hamhuis is pretty impressive.

Tonight's game may be a bit sloppy as both teams find their way. 5-3 Canucks.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Vet solid signing by Gillis. The Canucks will have one of the best top 4 defense groups in the league for the next few years. Garrison - Edler and Bieksa - Hamhuis is pretty impressive.

Tonight's game may be a bit sloppy as both teams find their way. 5-3 Canucks.

- DarthKane

I don't expect the hockey to be good for at least a month, guys gotta get into game shape.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:04 PM ET
I don't expect the hockey to be good for at least a few months, guys gotta get injured and then get into game shape.
- LeftCoaster


fixed

Edit, it's like the Chinese calendar, this is the year of the groin...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm getting a bit tired of AV and not letting any youth have a chance. The players like Ebbett and Barker, Vandermeer aren't good enough to make other teams so how are they good enough to make ours. It's going to be a bit of a learning curve for the youth but if they never get the chance how are we supposed to know if they are going to be any good.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'm getting a bit tired of AV and not letting any youth have a chance. The players like Ebbett and Barker, Vandermeer aren't good enough to make other teams so how are they good enough to make ours. It's going to be a bit of a learning curve for the youth but if they never get the chance how are we supposed to know if they are going to be any good.
- manvanfan



I agree, but we are bringing on two young players. Kassian and Tanev . Next year hopefully three more and a longer training camp.

Christ I can't believe I was supporting AVs decision
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
I'm getting a bit tired of AV and not letting any youth have a chance. The players like Ebbett and Barker, Vandermeer aren't good enough to make other teams so how are they good enough to make ours. It's going to be a bit of a learning curve for the youth but if they never get the chance how are we supposed to know if they are going to be any good.
- manvanfan

I think there were some cap implications with the decision, Schroeder didn't need to clear waivers.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
I agree, but we are bringing on two young players. Kassian and Tanev . Next year hopefully three more and a longer training camp.

Christ I can't believe I was supporting AVs decision

- VANTEL


Look how awesome the Oliers have been with a lineup full of rookies...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
Leafs blog is titled Rebuild

What year is this 8 ?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
Look how awesome the Oliers have been with a lineup full of rookies...
- 1970vintage



Sarcasm?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
I think there were some cap implications with the decision, Schroeder didn't need to clear waivers.
- LeftCoaster



We have also seen Ebbett score in clutch situations.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
Leafs blog is titled Rebuild

What year is this 48 ?

- VANTEL

Fixed.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
Are the Canucks at all aware there is a salary Cap next year, and if they do, are they aware its not 400 million?

Serious question. It seems ignored to the point I wonder if its actually something nobody is aware of.

I await your 1967's and sexual oriented insults as well as apologies for your teams cap mismanagment.

Yes, I know, the two buy outs will solve all the problems, except for the part where I know they wont.

- systemtool


Uhhhh..... Awkwaaarrrdddd.... The Canucks have a lot of wiggle room. Let's say 3 million for the fourth line and 2.1 for a 6th and 7th defenseman so that leaves 4.1 cap space...... and if they're feeling really gitty they can buy out Booth and Go for Perry.....

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
A Burrows ($4.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.088m)/Schroeder / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / A Edler ($5.000m)
Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,001,667; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (16-man roster): $10,360,833
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
I'm not expecting much tonight or even over the next few weeks. Most of the Canucks didn't play during the lockout so it'll take some time. That said, I think it might work to our advantage if we peak around the start of the playoffs, something we haven't been able to say in quite a while.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
Look how awesome the Oliers have been with a lineup full of rookies...
- 1970vintage

Awesome as in second last awesome?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
As long as Crosby gets five points tonight I'll be happy and leading the pool.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
As long as Crosby gets five points tonight I'll be happy and leading the pool.
- LeftCoaster



and




That would mean Flyers need a goalie.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
Uhhhh..... Awkwaaarrrdddd.... The Canucks have a lot of wiggle room. Let's say 3 million for the fourth line and 2.1 for a 6th and 7th defenseman so that leaves 4.1 cap space...... and if they're feeling really gitty they can buy out Booth and Go for Perry.....

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
A Burrows ($4.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.088m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / A Edler ($5.000m)
Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,001,667; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (16-man roster): $10,360,833

- Boinker


Not to burst your bubble there Boinker but you're missing the 4th line and 3rd pairing D. Plus I could never see AV giving both Gaunce and Jensen and permanent place on the team next year.

Still, all manner of options exist to become cap compliant and we'll get it done.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
Its gonna be funny when Gomez gets a job somewhere in the NHL and nets 10-15g and 25-35 points.
- poisondhearts37




and in response...

No more pressure of being the 5th highest paid player in the nhl........ I can see it happening.
- Sheppy99




Because we don't have the cap space and can dump the horrible contract.

Look, I'm loving that he's gone, but if we could re-sign him for $1M I'd be up for it in a heartbeat. He'll get at least 50 points in a season at least one more time before he retires.

- muffin_man


IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jan 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'm not expecting much tonight or even over the next few weeks. Most of the Canucks didn't play during the lockout so it'll take some time. That said, I think it might work to our advantage if we peak around the start of the playoffs, something we haven't been able to say in quite a while.
- AlexF


I think you will be surprised. It's not going to take long. the majority of the team has been together for 5-6 years now so the chemistry should come back pretty quick.

Teams with new coaches, new systems and new players are the ones that will suffer regardless of how much they have been playing.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
I think you will be surprised. It's not going to take long. the majority of the team has been together for 5-6 years now so the chemistry should come back pretty quick.

Teams with new coaches, new systems and new players are the ones that will suffer regardless of how much they have been playing.

- IanEsplen


I don't doubt the chemistry. I doubt the fitness levels.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
Sarcasm?
- VANTEL




I thought your sensible side was was bang on. Just because all of our rookies aren't in the lineup this year doesn't mean we still don't have young players making a contribution. I would love to see Schroeder get a shot as well, but if it's only for 7 games (as Lefty and I are speculating) is it really worth it?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
For some reason the Canucks seem to have problems with the Ducks. Whoever is in net for us tonight is going to have to be great. Not being a downer, its only game one, I say 4-2 Ducks, Perry with the trick and Selanne with the other on the PP. Burrows and Raymond for the Nucks.
- 1970vintage

Yes, I'm the crusty , bald guy.
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