Love is a battlefied?
- systemtool

Love is not admissible evidence

He depends on his speed way too much to count for his poor positioning. He tries to dangle with these ridiculous moves and has a conversion rate of about 5 percent. His passing is horrible. Did you ever wonder why, when his name was being thrown around on the block, we couldn't get poop for him?? He brings more damage, loose pucks, and giveaways then any point total could ever make up for .... But you donks just keep reading your stat books, and let's judge our players by how great they look in TO. Worked for numerous guys who dissolved into nothing when they left.
- KaceTy

Grabovski??? Yeah you don't know poop.

as george takei would say: oh my

last season when grabo was on the ice the leafs generated 8 or 9 more shots on net than opponents did. is corsi rating is fantastic.

when grabo is on the ice 53% of all shots taken by other side are at the opposition net..he's a plus possession player all the way

now for NHL stats: shooting percentage 14.1%.. scoring 23 times out of 163 shots.. a shooting percentage that ranks him 50th overall in the entire league
- Dozzer

Don't go all facts on the troll that signed up yesterday!!

Do you want one from anybody not named KaceTy?


Because you're the only one that agrees with what you're saying
- Feeling Glucky?

Which proves my original post even more ... We as fans are idiots to show faith in them. I bet you are all the same people who were on here last off season praising the likes of Kulemin. You're probably the same people who tweeted the Optimus Prime comments regarding Reimer ... And probably the same people who are now talking about how great Gardiner is going to be ... Watch the game rather then look at his stats, and listen to the press conferences.

Which proves my original post even more ... We as fans are idiots to show faith in them. I bet you are all the same people who were on here last off season praising the likes of Kulemin. You're probably the same people who tweeted the Optimus Prime comments regarding Reimer ... And probably the same people who are now talking about how great Gardiner is going to be ... Watch the game rather then look at his stats, and listen to the press conferences.
- KaceTy

so are u a leafs fan?

I don't think being an NHL GM is as complex as it may seem. Basic principle: build patiently through the draft, don't trade 1st picks for quick fixes. Develop your young players properly. Don't make stupid trades. Don't over pay for over rated UFA's. Burke subscribed to some of the above but not to all of them. If he did, he could have been a successful GM for the Leafs for the next decade.
- GCHonda

Are those the basic principles eh?

Which proves my original post even more ... We as fans are idiots to show faith in them. I bet you are all the same people who were on here last off season praising the likes of Kulemin. You're probably the same people who tweeted the Optimus Prime comments regarding Reimer ... And probably the same people who are now talking about how great Gardiner is going to be ... Watch the game rather then look at his stats, and listen to the press conferences.
- KaceTy

He had 3 shutouts in Jan last year. Record was 7-3-1..... 926S% 2.11 GAA.


and then he was taken out for Reimer who wasn't ready. What could have been if RW would have stuck with the hot hand?
- burn

hey Burn where ya been? Yes I agree that Ron Wilson was a train wreck. He screwed up Gus, Franson & Kadri. Those are just the obvious ones off the top of my head, I know there are more. However, I don't think the Monster is mentally tough. Even in net he seems to get easily rattled. I bet the opponents book on Gus was to get him flip flopping around the crease cause when he does, he has an awful time getting back in position. Wish I got a dollar everytime he got burned this way.

He depends on his speed way too much to count for his poor positioning. He tries to dangle with these ridiculous moves and has a conversion rate of about 5 percent. His passing is horrible. Did you ever wonder why, when his name was being thrown around on the block, we couldn't get poop for him?? He brings more damage, loose pucks, and giveaways then any point total could ever make up for .... But you donks just keep reading your stat books, and let's judge our players by how great they look in TO. Worked for numerous guys who dissolved into nothing when they left.
- KaceTy

you mean when Burke refused to trade him cuase he was the best center on the team? yes, I remember that.

since you keep mentioning his giveaways... he had 5 more than Datsyuk... a player widely regarded as one of the best 2 way players ever.

so are u a leafs fan?
- wingz4life

sadly

as george takei would say: oh my

last season when grabo was on the ice the leafs generated 8 or 9 more shots on net than opponents did. is corsi rating is fantastic.

when grabo is on the ice 53% of all shots taken by other side are at the opposition net..he's a plus possession player all the way

now for NHL stats: shooting percentage 14.1%.. scoring 23 times out of 163 shots.. a shooting percentage that ranks him 50th overall in the entire league
- Dozzer

Might be time to run a check on him.

so are u a leafs fan?
- wingz4life

Yep.

Which proves my original post even more ... We as fans are idiots to show faith in them. I bet you are all the same people who were on here last off season praising the likes of Kulemin. You're probably the same people who tweeted the Optimus Prime comments regarding Reimer ... And probably the same people who are now talking about how great Gardiner is going to be ... Watch the game rather then look at his stats, and listen to the press conferences.
- KaceTy

Jesus man thats a crater u working on now...The hole is up....

Might be time to run a check on him.
- LeafMan

i PMd you about that actually.. message me back when you get a chance

He depends on his speed way too much to count for his poor positioning. He tries to dangle with these ridiculous moves and has a conversion rate of about 5 percent. His passing is horrible. Did you ever wonder why, when his name was being thrown around on the block, we couldn't get poop for him?? He brings more damage, loose pucks, and giveaways then any point total could ever make up for .... But you donks just keep reading your stat books, and let's judge our players by how great they look in TO. Worked for numerous guys who dissolved into nothing when they left.
- KaceTy

Grabbo is the closest thing we have to a fearless scorer...leave him alone please

Potvin was the KEY back from 92-94. If he poops the bed the Leafs have no choice but to hang onto an aging Fuhr & they don't acquire their BIG gun in Andrechuk. If this would have happened, NO FUKKEN way the Leafs go to the semi finals 2 years in a row without the big scorer and an aging goalie in Fuhr who would never have been able to handle the physically demanding playoff wars of playing over 20 games in just over 40 nights.
- GCHonda

Cool story Hansel... doesnt really have anything to do with the discussion at hand, but those were good times

hey Burn where ya been? Yes I agree that Ron Wilson was a train wreck. He screwed up Gus, Franson & Kadri. Those are just the obvious ones off the top of my head, I know there are more. However, I don't think the Monster is mentally tough. Even in net he seems to get easily rattled. I bet the opponents book on Gus was to get him flip flopping around the crease cause when he does, he has an awful time getting back in position. Wish I got a dollar everytime he got burned this way.
- GCHonda

I've been around.... Here today more than usual cause im home with a little one that is sick.

Totally agree on all that. I think Gus was in a groove and should have stayed in there, but RW (frank)ed it up. That said he does prove to be not very mentally tough if he loses his edge because he came out for a game......

as george takei would say: oh my

last season when grabo was on the ice the leafs generated 8 or 9 more shots on net than opponents did. is corsi rating is fantastic.

when grabo is on the ice 53% of all shots taken by other side are at the opposition net..he's a plus possession player all the way

now for NHL stats: shooting percentage 14.1%.. scoring 23 times out of 163 shots.. a shooting percentage that ranks him 50th overall in the entire league
- Dozzer

this one ignores stats and goes with what he/she knows

as george takei would say: oh my

last season when grabo was on the ice the leafs generated 8 or 9 more shots on net than opponents did. is corsi rating is fantastic.

when grabo is on the ice 53% of all shots taken by other side are at the opposition net..he's a plus possession player all the way

now for NHL stats: shooting percentage 14.1%.. scoring 23 times out of 163 shots.. a shooting percentage that ranks him 50th overall in the entire league
- Dozzer

He covered his bases when he said we need to throw away the statbook and actually watch Grabo.

We have no rebuttal.

Potvin was the KEY back from 92-94. If he poops the bed the Leafs have no choice but to hang onto an aging Fuhr & they don't acquire their BIG gun in Andrechuk. If this would have happened, NO FUKKEN way the Leafs go to the semi finals 2 years in a row without the big scorer and an aging goalie in Fuhr who would never have been able to handle the physically demanding playoff wars of playing over 20 games in just over 40 nights.
- GCHonda

And he schooled Hextall.

Don't ever forget that.

He depends on his speed way too much to count for his poor positioning. He tries to dangle with these ridiculous moves and has a conversion rate of about 5 percent. His passing is horrible. Did you ever wonder why, when his name was being thrown around on the block, we couldn't get poop for him?? He brings more damage, loose pucks, and giveaways then any point total could ever make up for .... But you donks just keep reading your stat books, and let's judge our players by how great they look in TO. Worked for numerous guys who dissolved into nothing when they left.
- KaceTy

you are not very good at this

The Gov't lost my info though the student loans security breach

F M L

this one ignores stats and goes with what he/she knows
- Big_Lightnin

yes.. a couch scout.. they're a wonderful breed

i PMd you about that actually.. message me back when you get a chance
- Dozzer

lol, I ran a preliminary trace, I sent you back a message.

He covered his bases when he said we need to throw away the statbook and actually watch Grabo.

We have no rebuttal.
- Leafland

cept what he is saying simply isnt true.. never goes into the corners.. apparantley he doesnt remember chara laying him out and then grabo going right back for more

claiming to watch games doesnt mean they actually do..

laughable really.